re: Interview with Kenny Rogers on ESPN Radio Dallas right now

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Aubarn

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I would give you credit for a type-o, but the a key is nowhere near the u key on my computer

nicee

I assume Cecil used Kenny only because of his MSU connections and had an AU guy.

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NCAA Division 1 Manual
12.3.1 General Rule. An individual shall be ineligible for participation in an intercollegiate sport if he or she
ever has agreed (orally or in writing) to be represented by an agent for the purpose of marketing his or her athletics
ability or reputation in that sport. Further, an agency contract not specifically limited in writing to a sport or
particular sports shall be deemed applicable to all sports, and the individual shall be ineligible to participate in
any sport.

12.3.3 Athletics Scholarship Agent. Any individual, agency or organization that represents a prospective
student-athlete for compensation in placing the prospective student-athlete in a collegiate institution as a recipient
of institutional financial aid shall be considered an agent or organization marketing the individual’s athletics
ability or reputation.

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Pretty clear. Cam is done.

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For the logical equation, A + B = C to work you have to have A and C be correct, B can be unknown and we can make logical deductions and it still makes logical sense (i.e. A= Grandma needed milk and eggs C= Grandma arrived at home with milk and eggs, B is unknown but it is safe to assume Grandma went to the grocery store)

A= Cecil/Cam Newton solicit money from MSU, stating that it would take money to get Cam "this time" (ALLEGED)

C= Cam ends up at Auburn (known)

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FIFY.

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Can anyone guess what B is?

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Not definitively. However, if Rogers' story can be corroborated, it would be pretty easy to figure out.

Can't believe there are AU fans who still think there's still nothing in this that will hurt us.

But I also can't believe that there are State fans who think this 'puts us in the clear'.


Let's use Larry's A+B=C analogy:

A= MSU alum (Rogers) takes part in a meeting with two MSU coaches and Cecil in November, where money is discussed. Rogers contacts another MSU alum (Bell) for potential bankroll, and puts him in contact with Cecil to discuss it further. (ALLEGED)

C= MSU reports recruiting improprieties (but not the above conversation) to SEC office in January, after Cam signs with AU. They subsequently ignore SEC requests for further information for six months, until NCAA gets involved. (known)

Can anyone out there speculate what B might be?

I'm guessing it's not "B= We tell Cecil to frick off, we're not paying a dime, but we keep recruiting Cam anyway. We decide not to tell anyone about the November conversation involving MSU alums/boosters/coaches, because we don't think its very important. Even though we know AU bought Cam."

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i think you need to re-read that article

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I did.

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In Newnan, Cecil Newton's church, which news reports suggested were a possible beneficiary of the alleged payout, sat in disrepair. The Holy Zion Center of Deliverance, located in a heavily commercial area in Newnan, looks like a deserted building. A former car dealership, white curtains are drawn across the front windows, which appear to bear a couple of bullet holes. In fact, the church was dissolved in 2008 by the state after failing to file its annual registration.

"I've never seen anybody over there," said Jeff Scott, manager of a nearby used-car dealership.

According to reports in the Times-Herald newspaper in Newnan, Newton spent the past two years fighting to keep his church building from being condemned and subsequently demolished. The City of Newnan granted Newton at least three extensions to bring the building up to code before it was taken off the city’s condemned list in October.

City records show the church needed to make $50,000 in repairs to keep its building from being torn down.

Council member Rhodes Shell, who represents the district where the church is located, said Newton made gradual improvements on the property and updated the city on his progress, which is why they kept giving him more time.

“He was well-meaning and sincere about what he was trying to do,” Shell said. “If it had been a real business, we wouldn’t have given him as long as we did.”

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nicee

I assume Cecil used Kenny only because of his MSU connections and had an AU guy.

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Read my edit

During the radio interview, Rogers said, on Nov. 29, 2009, the day after the Egg Bowl, he talked with Cecil Newton at a Shell station on Highway 82 leading out of Starkville as both were leaving town.
Rogers said Cecil Newton asked him, "What do you think is going to happen? Do you think it (the deal) is going to go through?"
Rogers said he told Newton, "I'll call Bill Bell."
Bell is a former teammate of Rogers at Mississippi State. Bell is the president of Bel-Mac Roofing in Santa Rosa, Fla.
Rogers said he left a message for Bell that Sunday. Why?
"If somebody's asking for that kind of money, I don't have that kind of money," Rogers said. "I called somebody I was close to to see if he knew anybody."

reading this it sounds to me like it directly implicates msu in that boosters were attempting to raise the funds available to secure the services of cam newton. just a thought.

again, not that i believe kenny rogers at all, but for those of you who do, you have to pretty much believe everything he is putting out there, you cant be selective about it.

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You can sue for anything at anytime and the resulting defense costs money.

I would have never let my client go on the radio and say any of that shite even if it is 100% true. You do this in the comfort of your attorney's office once the FBI asks for an interview.

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Cam has no chance to win a libel/slander case is all I was saying....

The circumstances change significantly as he is classified as a public figure, whoever made the statements or published articles had to have known for certain that what they were printing/saying was false.

Thats a pretty tough case to prove against a journalist, its not even worth it for Cam to sue...

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NCAA Division 1 Manual
12.3.1 General Rule. An individual shall be ineligible for participation in an intercollegiate sport if he or she
ever has agreed (orally or in writing) to be represented by an agent for the purpose of marketing his or her athletics
ability or reputation in that sport. Further, an agency contract not specifically limited in writing to a sport or
particular sports shall be deemed applicable to all sports, and the individual shall be ineligible to participate in
any sport.

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You know what this does not say?

It does not say for any school.