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If Nutt has another outstanding season..does he bolt?

Posted on 7/11/09 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Chd1478
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/11/09 at 3:53 pm
Does he bolt for another higher profile job, in say the Big 12 or ACC while his stock is hot??

Competing yearly up against Ala, Auburn, and LSU, (even Ark, who tends to get the best of the Rebels more years than not); Ole Miss is not a program that is able to contend for the West year in and year out.
This post was edited on 7/11/09 at 3:58 pm
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
55782 posts
Posted on 7/11/09 at 3:56 pm to
I agree. Ole Miss will always be a middle of the road program. They will probably blow it this year as well becasue deep down they know they aren't for real. it will be their own psyche that destroys them this year. I say 8-4 at best which a nice for a little program like theirs.

Anyway, Nutt isn't much of a recruiter and that will be his downfall wherever he goes. His recruiting alwasy falls off.

Headlines will read;

"Houston's Wife Catches Nutt, Messy Situation"

Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
213705 posts
Posted on 7/11/09 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

Does he bolt for another higher profile job, in say the SEC or ACC while his stock is hot??

Competing yearly up against Ala, Auburn, and LSU, (even Ark, who tends to get the best of the Rebels more years than not); Ole Miss is not a program that is able to contend for the West year in and year out.


You don't folow SEC football much, DO YOU????????
Posted by Chd1478
Member since Jun 2009
1815 posts
Posted on 7/11/09 at 4:01 pm to
What are you trying to say?
Posted by Aubie83
Member since Jan 2008
5012 posts
Posted on 7/11/09 at 4:42 pm to
Well...Ole Miss is not one of the SEC schools that I just can't stand...I am honestly not trying to flame or anything like that, but Nutt is a known underperformer...he does well once in a blue moon and loses games he shouldn't as much as he wins games he should...I don't know..maybe it was just something to do with Arky...but I honestly don't see him doing any better at Ole Miss than he ever did at Arky...I think at the end of his tenure Ole Miss will still be the only west team to not have played in the SECCG...just my opinion...and honestly I believe the results would have been the same if Tubs had stayed...there is just a different level of recruiting at the traditionally top tier western division teams.
This post was edited on 7/11/09 at 4:44 pm
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6336 posts
Posted on 7/11/09 at 4:44 pm to
Cue Wildretardtime in 3,
Posted by BamaJD88
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Jan 2007
718 posts
Posted on 7/11/09 at 5:27 pm to
I'm not so sure it doesn't solidify his position at Ole Miss.

I do not get the impression that Houston Nutt is always looking for something better. I think he may be the kind of person who would be very content in Oxford, Mississippi if he feels wanted.

You can say what you want but Oxford is a nice town. Ole Miss is a nice school. He's a big fish there. He's not a young person anymore (he's not old, but he's more than half way there).

I think he stays as long as he's moderately successful and enjoying the support of the Ole Miss family.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
25725 posts
Posted on 7/11/09 at 5:30 pm to
No I think he is there as long as he continues to win at least 7-8 games a season.
Posted by Tide
Member since Jul 2009
436 posts
Posted on 7/11/09 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

If Nutt has another outstanding season..does he bolt?
I'm not so sure it doesn't solidify his position at Ole Miss.

I do not get the impression that Houston Nutt is always looking for something better. I think he may be the kind of person who would be very content in Oxford, Mississippi if he feels wanted.

You can say what you want but Oxford is a nice town. Ole Miss is a nice school. He's a big fish there. He's not a young person anymore (he's not old, but he's more than half way there).

I think he stays as long as he's moderately successful and enjoying the support of the Ole Miss family.

I agree.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
84097 posts
Posted on 7/11/09 at 5:34 pm to
He would be a perfect fit after Saban flees to Florida, after Meyer goes to Notre Dame, after Weis gets shitcanned.
Posted by wildrebeltime
Little Rock
Member since May 2009
2058 posts
Posted on 7/11/09 at 5:50 pm to
I don't think he'd leave that soon. I agree with Tide. Nutt is a guy loyal to his players. He's not in this business for money, or status, or fame or to see how quick he can get to the next job like Petrino and Saban do. But I do think his 09 and 2010 recruit classes will be strong enough by the time they are upperclassmen he'll have won enough to get into a top 10 program and he'll likely turn the Ole Miss gig over to Kent Austin at that point.

I also think there exists a fire in him to want to beat Arkanssa about 5 years in a row in the process from the program he routinely blew out, and I believe he will.
Posted by Chd1478
Member since Jun 2009
1815 posts
Posted on 7/11/09 at 5:51 pm to
Ole Miss usually plays 3 OC cupcakes and has Vandy and MSU on the schedule every year.

That's 5 wins right there.
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Member since Jun 2008
8590 posts
Posted on 7/11/09 at 6:32 pm to
Nutt's biggest accomplishments have been his first 2 seasons at his new schools, with Danny Ford's and Coach O's players. It's been all downhill from there.

Before leaving Arkansas he was the longest tenured BCS coach without a BCS Bowl. He is still waiting.

His lifetime road record is abysmal.

His lifetime record against the Top 25 is horrendous.

His recruiting is always between 15 and 40, closer to 40 after it's all said and done.

Through 11 years he is a count hair over .500 in the SEC

His bowl record is 3-6.

He won the West twice, in no small part to a Matt Jones Hail Mary and an Alabama probation.

He went .500 over 3 years and entirely missed a bowl with two backs that gained more APY than any duo in history (McFadden/Jones), blocked by an NFL starting Fullback (Hillis). Based on rushing yardage and APY alone, the argument could be made that they were not only the greatest backfield in the history of the SEC, but college football. Let me say that again: He went .500 and missed a bowl in their 3 years.





Houston Nutt has a resume of failure and mediocre performances. It only looks worse when you look at what he did with his players, opposed to Ford's and O's.

If a school needs some rah-rah and a fresh face. He's the man. If you want a winner, look elsewhere.
Posted by Tide
Member since Jul 2009
436 posts
Posted on 7/11/09 at 6:46 pm to
Last three posters all make good points. Nutt should be able to achieve winning seasons and make it to bowl games regularly enough at Ole Miss to stay for a while if he wants to. He needs to improve some in recruiting though, IMO. Mullen appears to be outrecruiting him for in-state talent.
This post was edited on 7/11/09 at 6:49 pm
Posted by wildrebeltime
Little Rock
Member since May 2009
2058 posts
Posted on 7/11/09 at 6:54 pm to
Prior to Nutt's arrival Arkansas historically had won 39% of their games against the SEC. He won 52.5%. It's highly unlikely anyone else will win as frequently within the conference as he did.

He was around 25 in recruit ranking which Arkansas is about 30th in recruiting potential. There will always be that top 20 that is almost always better b/c they recruit the big metro cities. The Fl schools . TX schools, coastal schools, 8 to 10 in the SEC will always rank higher b/c they have better geographical proximaty to better talent. IF you are Arkansas and can maintain .500 in the conferece win the west 3 times in 10 years, regardless of circumstances you better be ecstatic with it. Just ask Ole Miss , Lsu, Bama, MSU, or Auburn about poor coaching hires and underacheiving. Nutt was a great one.
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6336 posts
Posted on 7/11/09 at 6:57 pm to
So the fact that Arkansas entered the SEC with some of the worst coaching in it's history has nothing to do with it? A couple years of Crowe will strongly put you in a gutter.
Posted by wildrebeltime
Little Rock
Member since May 2009
2058 posts
Posted on 7/11/09 at 7:04 pm to
i'm talking about of all time. Arkansas was more than 30 games under .500 against the SEC all time. Nutt in 10 years was 4 games over. I also do not think Arkansas can recruit as well and be as strong nationally as they use to b/c we use to play all our road games in TExas and recruit that state heavily. We still must rely on Texas but we have rarely played there or got exposure there. Our away games are in another direction of the country. It's a conference that does not get alot of exposure in Texas. expect Petrino to keep that sub 40% trend going.

AFter watching him choke away the KY and MSU games this year I'd say he's well on his way.
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6336 posts
Posted on 7/11/09 at 7:08 pm to
Choke away? a fumble on your own 20 by a Frosh RB is a choke by the coach?
Posted by DeuceisLoose
Mandeville
Member since Sep 2008
2455 posts
Posted on 7/11/09 at 7:09 pm to
Very fair question. I would say he would only leave for another SEC job. I don't think, however, that he likes moving around (although he does like news reporters).
Posted by wildrebeltime
Little Rock
Member since May 2009
2058 posts
Posted on 7/11/09 at 7:44 pm to
for some strange reason I see him ending up at Georiga. I think Richt either moves on or get's run out within 3 to 5 years and they go after Nutt.
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