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NCAA accidentally posted ruling an hour ago
Posted on 6/11/09 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 6/11/09 at 1:32 pm
On their website. It has since been taken down.
201 athletes involved in 16 sports (all but three of UA athletic programs)
Men and women's track and field were biggest violators, as far as participants...football was the biggest per dollar amount.
20+ knowingly violated rules...100+ unintentionally did so.
didn't get to the penalties yet.
201 athletes involved in 16 sports (all but three of UA athletic programs)
Men and women's track and field were biggest violators, as far as participants...football was the biggest per dollar amount.
20+ knowingly violated rules...100+ unintentionally did so.
didn't get to the penalties yet.
Posted on 6/11/09 at 1:44 pm to DvlsAdvocat
Does your wrist burn from the slap?
Posted on 6/11/09 at 1:46 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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Does your wrist burn from the slap?
get over it
Posted on 6/11/09 at 1:47 pm to RockyStop
here it is...
INDIANAPOLIS---The NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions has penalized University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa, for major violations involving 16 sports in its athletic program.
These sports include softball, baseball, women's gymnastics, football, men's basketball, women's basketball, men's golf, women's golf, men's swimming, women's swimming, men's tennis, women's tennis, men's track and field, women's track and field, women's soccer and women's volleyball.
The violations include a failure to monitor by the university and impermissible benefits obtained by 201 student-athletes through misuse of the university's textbook distribution program. The total retail value of these impermissible benefits is approximately $40,000. It was found that $21,950 of this value was obtained by student-athletes who were aware they were receiving impermissible benefits
Penalties in this case include three years probation, vacation of records, and a $43,900 fine.
The university is a repeat violator, having appeared before the committee in 2002 for violations in its football program. At the time of the 2002 case, the university was also a repeat violator due to a 1999 case involving its men's basketball program. As stated in its report, "Although the committee commends the institution for self-discovering, investigating and reporting the textbook violations, it remains troubled, nonetheless, by the scope of the violations in this instance and by the institution's recent history of infractions cases."
Of the 201 student-athletes that received impermissible benefits, 22 were identified by the university as "intentional wrongdoers," as they were aware they received improper benefits. These student-athletes – 14 of whom were members of the men's and women's track and field programs – exploited the university's textbook distribution system for scholarship student-athletes to acquire textbooks and materials of value greater than $100 for girlfriends, friends and other student-athletes.
The value of the impermissible benefits obtained by these intentional wrongdoers ranged from a low of $32.30 by a women's track student-athlete to a high of $3,947.19 by a football student-athlete. The committee noted that the four highest amounts, ranging from $2,714.62 to $3,947.19, were obtained by football student-athletes.
The second type of infraction involved student-athletes who unintentionally received the impermissible use of non-required textbooks and materials. Among the student-athletes who unintentionally violated NCAA rules, about 125 received benefits that totaled less than $100 each.
The committee found that the scope and nature of the violations demonstrate that the university failed to effectively monitor the student-athlete textbook distribution system. Although the university had created and implemented a system to control the textbook distribution process for NCAA compliance, it fell short in three areas, the committee explained. First, the university did not provide adequate rules education on the textbook issuance process for employees and student-athletes. Second, the university did not sufficiently monitor the textbook process before the textbooks left the store to prevent violations. Third, the university did not sufficiently monitor the textbook process afterwards to detect the violations in a timely fashion. The student-athletes were able to bypass the process in place for textbook purchases made with athletics aid, were not restricted by any purchase limits and not required to show photo identification.
As a result of the violations, there was a sharp increase in the total cost of books and supplies over a two-year period. Specifically, there was a 30-percent spike in charges between the 2004-05 academic year and the 2006-07 academic year. Had the university been carefully monitoring these numbers, the committee said, it seems likely this increase would have been investigated.
Finally, the committee notes that the university was unable to produce any records prior to the 2005 fall semester. As a result, the university could not ascertain whether violations of this nature may have occurred prior to the fall of 2005. Therefore, the scope of the case was limited to violations that occurred after that date.
The penalties imposed by the committee are below. Additional details are available in the public report.
 Public reprimand and censure.
 Three years of probation (June 11, 2009 to June 10, 2012).
 Vacation of all wins in which any of the seven football student-athletes identified by the university as "intentional wrongdoers" competed while ineligible during the 2005-06 through 2007-08 academic years. Further, in the sports of men's tennis, men's track and women's track, the individual records of the 15 student-athletes identified as "intentional wrongdoers" shall be vacated and team point totals shall be reconfigured accordingly. This includes regular season contests, postseason contests and any NCAA championship competition. The university's records regarding all of the involved sports, as well as the records of the head coaches of those sports, will reflect the vacated records and be recorded in all publications in which these records are reported, including, but not limited to, university media guides, recruiting material, and university and NCAA archives. Finally, any public reference to these vacated contests, including conference championships, won during this time shall be removed from athletics department stationery, banners displayed in public areas and any other forum in which they may appear.
 The university shall pay a fine of $43,900 to the NCAA. This figure represents an approximate value of the benefits obtained by the "intentional wrongdoers" ($21,950) multiplied by a factor of two.
The members of the Committee on Infractions who reviewed this case include Paul Dee, lecturer of law and education at the University of Miami and formerly the institution's athletics director and general counsel. He is the chair of the Committee on Infractions. Other members are John S. Black, attorney; Melissa Conboy, deputy director of athletics at University of Notre Dame; Eileen Jennings, general counsel at Central Michigan University; Britton Banowsky, commissioner of Conference USA; and Dennis Thomas, the commissioner of the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference and formerly director of athletics at Hampton
INDIANAPOLIS---The NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions has penalized University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa, for major violations involving 16 sports in its athletic program.
These sports include softball, baseball, women's gymnastics, football, men's basketball, women's basketball, men's golf, women's golf, men's swimming, women's swimming, men's tennis, women's tennis, men's track and field, women's track and field, women's soccer and women's volleyball.
The violations include a failure to monitor by the university and impermissible benefits obtained by 201 student-athletes through misuse of the university's textbook distribution program. The total retail value of these impermissible benefits is approximately $40,000. It was found that $21,950 of this value was obtained by student-athletes who were aware they were receiving impermissible benefits
Penalties in this case include three years probation, vacation of records, and a $43,900 fine.
The university is a repeat violator, having appeared before the committee in 2002 for violations in its football program. At the time of the 2002 case, the university was also a repeat violator due to a 1999 case involving its men's basketball program. As stated in its report, "Although the committee commends the institution for self-discovering, investigating and reporting the textbook violations, it remains troubled, nonetheless, by the scope of the violations in this instance and by the institution's recent history of infractions cases."
Of the 201 student-athletes that received impermissible benefits, 22 were identified by the university as "intentional wrongdoers," as they were aware they received improper benefits. These student-athletes – 14 of whom were members of the men's and women's track and field programs – exploited the university's textbook distribution system for scholarship student-athletes to acquire textbooks and materials of value greater than $100 for girlfriends, friends and other student-athletes.
The value of the impermissible benefits obtained by these intentional wrongdoers ranged from a low of $32.30 by a women's track student-athlete to a high of $3,947.19 by a football student-athlete. The committee noted that the four highest amounts, ranging from $2,714.62 to $3,947.19, were obtained by football student-athletes.
The second type of infraction involved student-athletes who unintentionally received the impermissible use of non-required textbooks and materials. Among the student-athletes who unintentionally violated NCAA rules, about 125 received benefits that totaled less than $100 each.
The committee found that the scope and nature of the violations demonstrate that the university failed to effectively monitor the student-athlete textbook distribution system. Although the university had created and implemented a system to control the textbook distribution process for NCAA compliance, it fell short in three areas, the committee explained. First, the university did not provide adequate rules education on the textbook issuance process for employees and student-athletes. Second, the university did not sufficiently monitor the textbook process before the textbooks left the store to prevent violations. Third, the university did not sufficiently monitor the textbook process afterwards to detect the violations in a timely fashion. The student-athletes were able to bypass the process in place for textbook purchases made with athletics aid, were not restricted by any purchase limits and not required to show photo identification.
As a result of the violations, there was a sharp increase in the total cost of books and supplies over a two-year period. Specifically, there was a 30-percent spike in charges between the 2004-05 academic year and the 2006-07 academic year. Had the university been carefully monitoring these numbers, the committee said, it seems likely this increase would have been investigated.
Finally, the committee notes that the university was unable to produce any records prior to the 2005 fall semester. As a result, the university could not ascertain whether violations of this nature may have occurred prior to the fall of 2005. Therefore, the scope of the case was limited to violations that occurred after that date.
The penalties imposed by the committee are below. Additional details are available in the public report.
 Public reprimand and censure.
 Three years of probation (June 11, 2009 to June 10, 2012).
 Vacation of all wins in which any of the seven football student-athletes identified by the university as "intentional wrongdoers" competed while ineligible during the 2005-06 through 2007-08 academic years. Further, in the sports of men's tennis, men's track and women's track, the individual records of the 15 student-athletes identified as "intentional wrongdoers" shall be vacated and team point totals shall be reconfigured accordingly. This includes regular season contests, postseason contests and any NCAA championship competition. The university's records regarding all of the involved sports, as well as the records of the head coaches of those sports, will reflect the vacated records and be recorded in all publications in which these records are reported, including, but not limited to, university media guides, recruiting material, and university and NCAA archives. Finally, any public reference to these vacated contests, including conference championships, won during this time shall be removed from athletics department stationery, banners displayed in public areas and any other forum in which they may appear.
 The university shall pay a fine of $43,900 to the NCAA. This figure represents an approximate value of the benefits obtained by the "intentional wrongdoers" ($21,950) multiplied by a factor of two.
The members of the Committee on Infractions who reviewed this case include Paul Dee, lecturer of law and education at the University of Miami and formerly the institution's athletics director and general counsel. He is the chair of the Committee on Infractions. Other members are John S. Black, attorney; Melissa Conboy, deputy director of athletics at University of Notre Dame; Eileen Jennings, general counsel at Central Michigan University; Britton Banowsky, commissioner of Conference USA; and Dennis Thomas, the commissioner of the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference and formerly director of athletics at Hampton
This post was edited on 6/11/09 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 6/11/09 at 1:47 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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Does your wrist burn from the slap?
Did they really deserve anything more? Sure, I could have seen the loss of 1-2 scholarships over the next few years; but even that has an extremely minuscule impact on recruiting, if it has any impact at all.
They weren't going to get anything more than a "slap on the wrist", because this was almost a non-issue with the football team and it was self-reported anyway.
This post was edited on 6/11/09 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 6/11/09 at 1:48 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
they should have gotten the death penalty IMO
Posted on 6/11/09 at 1:53 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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they should have gotten the death penalty IMO
don't mention death and football to a bama fan, they will think "bear bryant" and then think "wait, death, he's not dead" and get confused
Posted on 6/11/09 at 1:53 pm to TulaneTigerFan
Did they break probation or not is the only question that should have been addressed. Not how minor was the violation. The slap on the wrist was expected because of how weak the NCAA's probation is and how they have treated other schools past.
Posted on 6/11/09 at 1:54 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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they should have gotten the death penalty IMO
Bama has to stay clean till 2012, something they haven't been able to do for quite some time.
Posted on 6/11/09 at 1:54 pm to TulaneTigerFan
quote:They will eventually, No way Bama ever quits cheating
they should have gotten the death penalty IMO
Posted on 6/11/09 at 1:55 pm to Original Bayou Boy
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Bama has to stay clean till 2012, something they haven't been able to do for quite some time.
It will make no difference if they don't..or anyone else for that matter.
Posted on 6/11/09 at 1:57 pm to Bwana Whiskey
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The committee noted that the four highest amounts, ranging from $2,714.62 to $3,947.19, were obtained by football student-athletes
Basically, this proves a point we have been trying to get across for some time now. We do not pay our players. They wouldn't have to do this five and dime dance with the bookstore if they were getting 100 dollar handshakes.
Posted on 6/11/09 at 1:59 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
quote:
Does your wrist burn from the slap?
Honestly, this is what the football program should have gotten from this. Basically 'don't do it again' and move on.
It just wasn't that big of a deal.
Posted on 6/11/09 at 2:00 pm to tuck
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Basically, this proves a point we have been trying to get across for some time now. We do not pay our players. They wouldn't have to do this five and dime dance with the bookstore if they were getting 100 dollar handshakes.
or sell coke in the parking lot to undercover cops
Posted on 6/11/09 at 2:06 pm to Ross
I don't really think they should have gotten anything more severe. However, it is curious that the 4 highest amounts for impermissable textbooks were for football players. In addition, the committee noted that the school was unable to provide records prior to 2005 so the case was based on action since that time. Do we just assume that this all started in 2005? It may have been going on during the prior infractions, and just not caught at the time. If I was on the NCAA committee, I would have a real problem with UA not providing the records, especially since they were on probation during that time period. It seems that the NCAA is letting schools get away with improper conduct as long as they don't keep a record of their actions.
Posted on 6/11/09 at 2:13 pm to RockyStop
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get over it
I honestly could care less.
This is the second time in less than a decade you guys have been busted for cheated in some fashion. Says a lot about your program.
I want nothing to happen. Don't want to hear excuses coming from the SEC office or Tuscaloosa when you guys lose.
Posted on 6/11/09 at 2:20 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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This is the second time in less than a decade you guys have been busted for cheated in some fashion
It wasn't cheating. No advantage on the field or in recruiting. Not cheating.
Posted on 6/11/09 at 2:21 pm to bamaboy87
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It wasn't cheating. No advantage on the field or in recruiting. Not cheating.
Ok Clinton. It was a "violation of rules". My apologies.
Posted on 6/11/09 at 2:23 pm to DvlsAdvocat
So what is Bama's official record for the 2005, 2006, 2007 years now?
The wins are vacated so they do not count as a loss? SO it is as if Bama did not take the field in 2005 or 2006? Or is it games in which the offenders played (is that all games)?
Anyone want to post the new official record for those years now?
The wins are vacated so they do not count as a loss? SO it is as if Bama did not take the field in 2005 or 2006? Or is it games in which the offenders played (is that all games)?
Anyone want to post the new official record for those years now?
Posted on 6/11/09 at 2:24 pm to bamaboy87
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It wasn't cheating. No advantage on the field or in recruiting. Not cheating.
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