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DeBoer and “the fans”
Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:05 am
Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:05 am
He has a lot to learn but we as fans do as well. Starting with realizing it’s about to be 2026…not 2016. We are living in an age of parity in CFB. Also, knowing we aren’t paying a 60+ million dollar buyout when we now have to pay players. We have a coach that is built for the time we’re in. I would like his new contract to be structured with a buyout more favorable to UA so we aren’t having this conversation every week. But also making it more bent towards performance incentives than guaranteed money.
I know we may not have that luxury if Michigan is presenting something more favorable, but I think it’s important to try.
I know we may not have that luxury if Michigan is presenting something more favorable, but I think it’s important to try.
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 9:27 am
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Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:08 am to RECConspiracy
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I would like his new contract to be structured with a buyout more favorable to UA so we aren’t having this conversation every week.
Lol good luck buddy...
Fans overreact but the administration has never wavered on coach DeBoer. He will get 4 years minimum, probably longer now that he has a playoff win.
We aren't Auburn, he will get time. Coaching decisions aren't made based on one game..
Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:10 am to RECConspiracy
I’m the world’s worst. I can’t let go of Saban and what he did here. What we got accustomed to seeing. Just complete domination. It’s going to take longer than 2 years to get over 16. I’m pulling for Debeor. In the world of NIL I don’t even think Saban could do again what he did once. Roll Tide.
By the way; we winning the whole damn thing
By the way; we winning the whole damn thing
Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:11 am to UltimaParadox
I get it. Pie in the Sky thinking. But can we at least get a little reciprocation where other teams can’t buy him out so easily?
Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:14 am to RescueT
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In the world of NIL I don’t even think Saban could do again what he did once. Roll Tide.
Depending on how it’s framed, maybe not. A 50 year old Saban would have found a way. As would a 50 year old Bryant, but Saban now would not have the will nor the energy right now.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:20 am to RECConspiracy
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We are living in a day with very little parity in CFB.
I don’t think you know what this word means
parity: the state or condition of being equal, especially regarding status or pay.
Everything the decision makers are doing are to make everyone equal even if they do things that hurt it, like NIL.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:27 am to Syd
Yeah, you were so right. I don’t know how I got it so twisted, but I went ahead and made an edit.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:36 am to RECConspiracy
I brought this up last night - a bit anyway.
My adult kids don’t remember Alabama teams that didn’t win, but they went to colleges outside Alabama, so their expectations got muted by not being around it constantly.
I do remember the great (with Coach Bryant) AND the bad/mediocre times, so I am well aware of the ups and downs and completely thankful for what we had with CNS.
Are many of the ones calling for firings, benching, calling our players/coaches the worst names possible, etc. be the “fans” who grew up with the impression that Bama is virtually unbeatable?
They weren’t around to actually take a game like last night as a freakin’ treasure (of hard work) rather than just a norm.
My adult kids don’t remember Alabama teams that didn’t win, but they went to colleges outside Alabama, so their expectations got muted by not being around it constantly.
I do remember the great (with Coach Bryant) AND the bad/mediocre times, so I am well aware of the ups and downs and completely thankful for what we had with CNS.
Are many of the ones calling for firings, benching, calling our players/coaches the worst names possible, etc. be the “fans” who grew up with the impression that Bama is virtually unbeatable?
They weren’t around to actually take a game like last night as a freakin’ treasure (of hard work) rather than just a norm.
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 9:37 am
Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:38 am to RescueT
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I’m the world’s worst. I can’t let go of Saban and what he did here. What we got accustomed to seeing. Just complete domination. It’s going to take longer than 2 years to get over 16. I’m pulling for Debeor. In the world of NIL I don’t even think Saban could do again what he did once. Roll Tide.
I don't demand perfection or expect us to beat good teams by 3 TDs like the good ole days. It's not reasonable. I'm just really sick of us coming out looking totally unprepared. Games like last night are awesome, but you cannot expect to dig your way out of a hole of your own making like that on anything approaching a regular basis.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:46 am to Robot Santa
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I don't demand perfection or expect us to beat good teams by 3 TDs like the good ole days. It's not reasonable. I'm just really sick of us coming out looking totally unprepared.
Yes, I was not called for DeBoer to be fired during the game, but that first quarter performance was unacceptable by any standard.
I think DeBoer is solid, and I hope we don’t lose him. But there are still disconcerting things about the team in both years
Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:50 am to RECConspiracy
Dude advanced in the playoffs in his 2nd season. Those are the metrics that the administration looks at, especially in this era of CFB. We are a spoiled fanbase, but the Saban era of football is over and we are going to have to get used to what the sport is now. But DeBoer fits in, whether we like it or not.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:55 am to TomRollTideRitter
He's shown a pattern of showing up in games having the team looking completely unprepared. That has to stop. We play too many games on the margins when we're the more talented team. Thats got to stop as well.
Overall I think he's the right man for the job right now. He just needs to keep growing as a coach and make some changes to the staff (OL coach) and maybe tweak some philosophy in the offseason.
Overall I think he's the right man for the job right now. He just needs to keep growing as a coach and make some changes to the staff (OL coach) and maybe tweak some philosophy in the offseason.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:58 am to TomRollTideRitter
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But there are still disconcerting things about the team in both years
There are disconcerting things about the team like the offense disappearing in the second half all season (with the exception of last night), the lack of a running game, and OL inconsistencies. However, there have been improvements from last year. We've done a better job eliminating the procedural penalties this year and this year's team has an edge to it where last year's team would fold like a wet paper bag.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:00 am to NWLA_Bama
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We play too many games on the margins when we're the more talented team. Thats got to stop as well.
Bama was not the most talented team last night. But, they were the best coached.
It ain’t gonna be as pretty as it used to be - you guys have got to get used to this. This is a different era
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 10:01 am
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:00 am to TouchdownAlabama
I always thought DeBoer was the best hire we could have made. I think it was either him or Lanning...no one else seriously targeted.
I do think the first quarter last night was atrocious. We need to play 4 complete quarters. The offense managed to hit some plays, but the defense is carrying this team. Wommack D in the second half...we need that going forward.
As for KD's extension...I'm fine extending...even bumping it up...but we do need more protection. The buyouts can't be...we leave you and it's $60 million and if you leave us it's 1/10 of that. Too one sided.
I do think the first quarter last night was atrocious. We need to play 4 complete quarters. The offense managed to hit some plays, but the defense is carrying this team. Wommack D in the second half...we need that going forward.
As for KD's extension...I'm fine extending...even bumping it up...but we do need more protection. The buyouts can't be...we leave you and it's $60 million and if you leave us it's 1/10 of that. Too one sided.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:03 am to RECConspiracy
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Depending on how it’s framed, maybe not. A 50 year old Saban would have found a way. As would a 50 year old Bryant,
I'm not so sure. Both won by recruiting the best players. Sometimes 3 deep. Bear coached for a time when there were no scholarship players--there are stories of him recruiting players that probably wouldn't play just to keep another team from having them. This is probably why scholarship limits were instituted.
And how many times did you hear about how our second and third stringers were better than most teams' first string.
That is no longer the case. Saban may have adapted at a younger age.
Both were able to adapt their offenses and defenses to the changing times...but they always had the best players, 2 and 3 deep.
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 10:07 am
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:04 am to Bham4Tide
Im sorry but Alabama AT WORST, especially on offense, is just as talented as OU. But in reality, we have the physical talent on offense to dominate more teams than we have. I think coaching and lack of development (due to coaching) has been a problem for Alabama for about five years now.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:06 am to RECConspiracy
The only folks that matter are the ones that foot the bill.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:39 am to Robot Santa
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I'm just really sick of us coming out looking totally unprepared.
Agreed. It’s like they aren’t driving the standard - do your job on every single play regardless of the scoreboard.
71 missed so many second level blocks that would have gone for good yardage.
Instead it was a 2 to 3 yard gain. Even one of the TD runs was a wiffed block against #44 but thankfully Hill powered through.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:43 am to NWLA_Bama
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Im sorry but Alabama AT WORST, especially on offense, is just as talented as OU. But in reality, we have the physical talent on offense to dominate more teams than we have. I think coaching and lack of development (due to coaching) has been a problem for Alabama for about five years now.
I feel you man. I really do. But, Bama isn’t as talented and it may never will be again (consistently anyway) in this day and age. I mean if Ty and Proctor are our hopes of getting someone drafted in the first round next year, that should tell you a lot.
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 10:49 am
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