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It's time for a reckoning with SEC Cupcake Week

Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:48 am
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11136 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:48 am
It's happened again, a coach in a power conference with a very weak overall schedule (due to systemic reasons with the design of their conference membership) has taken a dig at the SEC playing a bunch of FCS and G6 teams in the second to last week of the season. This time it was Dan Lanning and Oregon.

The reality is that the 56.5% of the SEC's membership is in the FBS top 25 by all-time winning percentage while 33.3% of the Big Ten is the same. Simply put, you're around a coin flip's chance from playing a program that has a historical tendency to be a contender in the SEC. So, I do not really begrudge an 8-game conference schedule because the SEC's 8 games are a harder schedule than another conference's 9 games. This isn't fan bluster, I'm just looking at the objective numbers. If a conference has more teams that are at the very top of the subdivision with respect to winning percentage then they are the tougher conference. The SEC now houses the perennial superpower program from 3 conferences that existed before the cable television revenue explosion forced this conglomeration across regional lines: Alabama (SEC), Oklahoma (Big 8), and Texas (SWC).

However, none of this really matters in a championship system dependent on human selection instead of metric selection. Cupcake week is an albatross for the SEC's perception and perception is reality. With the 9-game schedule, I suspect this is largely going way but I think this needs to be explicitly eradicated and it will fix some other inequities internal to the SEC scheduling system. The fix is simple in my opinion:

No more OOC games after the 3rd week of the season and no more FCS scheduling

The reason the SEC ends up having a ton of late season open dates is due to several members wanting to play OOC rivalry games in the final week of the season. This needs to end. Georgia, Kentucky, and South Carolina need to play their OOC rival in week 1 through 3. If it is prescribed by state law, your school's lobbyist better do some work in your state's capitol. Your rivalry games are a problem for this conference and your state problems are your problems to fix.

Since the open dates will not be fillable by the school's discretion, this will end the inequity top programs in the conference face by constantly playing opponents with bye week preparation advantages. Alabama, Georgia, etc do not have a 2-deep of NFL starters anymore due to transfers and NIL. The conference needs to end half of their games being a game where they have a prep disadvantage or they get their prep advantage nullified by their opponent matching bye weeks. It is just self-defeating for a conference to disadvantage their consistent best bets to make a real run at a playoff bid.

The reality is that in the unlimited transfer and NIL era, there is really no difference in playing a lower end G6 team and the FCS. However nobody will poo-poo that if you get it out of the way in September. FCS scheduling has got to go. The idea of it being a form of charity is cute but we can just be charitable to slightly bigger but still screwed school in our subdivision instead.

I know some people are going to be upset but these OOC rivalry games in week 13/14 are a net-negative for the perception of the conference's scheduling. In this committee-based bid selection system, we've got to put the needs of the conference above the needs the petty interests of the individual schools.
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 10:50 am
Posted by FootballFrenzy
Chief of the Grammar Police
Member since Oct 2023
8094 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:49 am to
I read the title and thought, “that WKU-LSU game was amazing. That one will be talked about in Baton Rouge for years to come.”
Posted by redbean5
Member since Jan 2008
2337 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:55 am to
I agree, October and November should be conference games only.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
101330 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:57 am to
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Georgia, Kentucky, and South Carolina need to play their OOC rival in week 1 through 3



No
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11136 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:05 am to
quote:

No

When I become the commish, y’all will be playing your in-state rivals like basketball teams with OOC in-state rivals. It befits their 2nd or 3rd rate status as rivalries to be quite honest.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38339 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:12 am to
quote:

So, I do not really begrudge an 8-game conference schedule because the SEC's 8 games are a harder schedule than another conference's 9 games




This
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45157 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:13 am to
I have zero problem with SEC teams scheduling OOC cupcake games, either early and/or late in the season.
No other conference comes close to approaching the brutal week-to-week grind that is a full SEC conference slate.
It’s just unfortunate so many of those “scrimmage” games happened to land on the same weekend.

As for the coaches in other conferences crying about it … they’re welcome to grab every seat on the complain train.
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 11:15 am
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9322 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:15 am to
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opinion: No more OOC games after the 3rd week of the season and no more FCS scheduling


WHY?

It’s great to beat the GnaTs at Thanksgiving & the Swamp Rats at Halloween!
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11136 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:16 am to
quote:


I have zero problem with SEC teams scheduling OOC cupcake games, either early and/or late in the season.
No other conference comes close to approaching the brutal week-to-week grind that is a full SEC slate.
It’s just unfortunate so many of those “scrimmage” games happened to land on the same weekend.

As for the coaches in other leagues crying about it … they’re welcome to grab every seat on the complain train.



The problem with this stance is that I think it ignores the reality that we're in a beauty contests with competing conference and school interests looking to marginalize what the SEC should be entitled to in an expanded playoffs and aggrandize their own positions. I think there is little difference in scheduling Akron or UMASS over Eastern Illinois or Furman but it has an appreciable benefit on perceptions especially if you force all OOC to be in September, well out of the window of the goldfish-esque memory of voters and committee members.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11136 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:18 am to
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WHY?

It’s great to beat the GnaTs at Thanksgiving & the Swamp Rats at Halloween!


I covered this: your (and others like your school's situation) petty interests are actively harmful to the conference's overall perception.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38339 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:22 am to
I think we should go back to 8 games until espn wants to renegotiate the $.


If they do, I will be okay with the nine game schedule.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22250 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:25 am to
You’re a simp if the SEC cupcake scheduling offends you.
Posted by Soonerd78
Member since Sep 2024
2569 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:25 am to
OU will never stoop the level of your sorry ooc games late in the season… we are to proud of a school to be playing cupcakes ….

Okay sorry we all knew Mizery as a cupcake deep down .
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11136 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

You’re a simp if the SEC cupcake scheduling offends you.


Once again, I don’t think it is wrong but I think it is a negative perception problem at the wrong time of the year for the conference and the playoff selection system is a capricious beauty contest with competing conference interests in diminishing the SEC’s bids in the playoffs.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36377 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:10 pm to
The only proper response to a coach like Dan Lanning is this:

I didn't see you running your dick sucker in week 1 when you were playing Montana St while Alabama was on the road in Tallahassee playing Florida St. Or Texas was in Columbus playing Ohio St. Or when LSU was playing Clemson @ Clemson
This post was edited on 11/23/25 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Eldodroptop
Member since Jul 2021
3094 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

I agree, October and November should be conference games only


I will not fault Georgia playing an out of conference rival at the end of the season.

That’s perfectly reasonable and tradition matters.

Any of our respective programs intentionally scheduling a “Sisters of the poor” game in November is absolutely unacceptable.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
25226 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:11 pm to
Everyone keeps saying A&M needs a rest game. Just had that with Samford
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
18960 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:21 pm to
Screw that.

Anyone is welcome to check the SoS data and will notice a lot of SEC teams at the top. Lanning can suck one.
Posted by Chris ALL Capps
Member since Jan 2024
450 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:41 pm to
I'm not taking the opinion of a fig who jumps into pools with 17 yr old males seriously. And neither should you
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72842 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

I covered this: your (and others like your school's situation) petty interests are actively harmful to the conference's overall perception.


UGA playing GT and SC playing Clemson hurts our conference's overall perception?

Damn you are dumb.
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