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So Arkansas got tired of Texas and their 7 little bros, left the SWC and had it shut down.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 10/30/25 at 10:47 pm
Did Arky ever regret the move to the SEC being they had much more success in the SWC?
SWC Era (through 1991)
Arkansas had a SWC cumulative conference record of 249-195-16, which is a winning percentage of about 55.9%.
They won 13 SWC championships (years: 1936, 1946, 1954, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1968, 1975, 1979, 1988, 1989)
So during SWC years Arkansas was relatively successful with solid winning percentages and multiple conference titles.
SEC Era (since 1992)
In the SEC era their conference record is reported as 102-154-2, which is a winning percentage of about 39.9%.
Although Arkansas had some strong seasons in the SEC, they have not won an SEC conference championship (despite appearances in the SEC Championship Game in 1995, 2002 and 2006).
Summary
In the SWC: ~56% win rate in conference, 13 titles ? strong program in that league.
In the SEC: ~40% win rate in conference, 0 conference titles so far ? less dominant/lower success rate in the tougher conference.
The move to the SEC meant stepping into a more competitive environment, and Arkansas has struggled to match the dominance it enjoyed in the SWC era.
How did the Bama and UGA cheating compare to the Texas schools cheating?
SWC Era (through 1991)
Arkansas had a SWC cumulative conference record of 249-195-16, which is a winning percentage of about 55.9%.
They won 13 SWC championships (years: 1936, 1946, 1954, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1968, 1975, 1979, 1988, 1989)
So during SWC years Arkansas was relatively successful with solid winning percentages and multiple conference titles.
SEC Era (since 1992)
In the SEC era their conference record is reported as 102-154-2, which is a winning percentage of about 39.9%.
Although Arkansas had some strong seasons in the SEC, they have not won an SEC conference championship (despite appearances in the SEC Championship Game in 1995, 2002 and 2006).
Summary
In the SWC: ~56% win rate in conference, 13 titles ? strong program in that league.
In the SEC: ~40% win rate in conference, 0 conference titles so far ? less dominant/lower success rate in the tougher conference.
The move to the SEC meant stepping into a more competitive environment, and Arkansas has struggled to match the dominance it enjoyed in the SWC era.
How did the Bama and UGA cheating compare to the Texas schools cheating?
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Posted on 10/30/25 at 10:57 pm to Go Go Gata
Arkansas proved to be the smartest one in the room by chunking deuces early.
Maybe it'll pan out for them eventually.
Also, the SWC was a stupid design. Texas +Ark
It's not even Southwest
Maybe it'll pan out for them eventually.
Also, the SWC was a stupid design. Texas +Ark
It's not even Southwest
Posted on 10/30/25 at 10:57 pm to Go Go Gata
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Posted on 10/30/25 at 11:03 pm to Go Go Gata
Arkansas forgot the most important thing when leaving the SWC: they will never be elite without the State of Texas. Their strength was they were the out of state school that played the Texas schools
Texas A&M leaves for SEC. Over the course of just a few years A&M takes all the elite players Oklahoma got for decades. Oklahoma was forced to recruit the West Coast and has slowly faded from elite status. They forgot they will never be elite without those Texas players. Hence forcing their hand on the SEC move.
LSU is about to find out what happens when they get swagger jacked. For 25 years they’ve been able to get the right type of elite athletes from Texas. The difference making types from DFW and especially Houston and East Texas. Not only will they lose their swagger players with a bad hire, but we’re coming for Louisiana
Texas A&M leaves for SEC. Over the course of just a few years A&M takes all the elite players Oklahoma got for decades. Oklahoma was forced to recruit the West Coast and has slowly faded from elite status. They forgot they will never be elite without those Texas players. Hence forcing their hand on the SEC move.
LSU is about to find out what happens when they get swagger jacked. For 25 years they’ve been able to get the right type of elite athletes from Texas. The difference making types from DFW and especially Houston and East Texas. Not only will they lose their swagger players with a bad hire, but we’re coming for Louisiana
Posted on 10/30/25 at 11:06 pm to PuertoRicanBlaze
I mean they haven’t been great here! 3 appearances in the SEC title game with L’s to Florida and Georgia. Winning records against only Vandy, Ole Miss, and State usually 4th best SEC West program until Ole Miss rise now 5th. Yeah they probably should but they belong based comedy they provide!
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Posted on 10/30/25 at 11:23 pm to Go Go Gata
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How did the Bama and UGA cheating compare to the Texas schools cheating?
There was always cheating. Too many schools in Texas were given a seat at the big boy table. So establishing a winning program long term was hard. 80’s you have the most infamous cheating scandal in CFB history with the SMU death penalty. The 90’s A&M was snitched on for recruiting violations in the middle of having our best run of success until that point. 2000’s Oklahoma was found cheating paying players for no-show jobs at a Norman car dealership and nothing happened.
Ultimately everyone had to cheat. Too many mouths to feed. The only schools that could mostly get away with it and face no repercussions were Texas and Oklahoma. And even they had it hard. Texas especially.
TCU - Davey O’Brien SMU - Doak Walker
Legendary players that have awards named after them. 8 schools in Texas all trying to compete at the highest level. Lots of taking turns at being good over the years
This post was edited on 10/30/25 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 10/31/25 at 2:02 am to Go Go Gata
Funny you bring this up. When the SEC announced texa$$ & OU joined, a mot of Mizzou & AM fans rolled our eyes...(the rest of the SEC, sans OU really deep down have no idea how shady & greedy the whorls are, but you will). An old timer brought up the point in reflecting back on the formation of the BIGXII, that we should have asked Frank Broyles and Arkansas to leave or if they were interested in coming into the BIGXII instead of Baylor. They joined the SEC in 92, and might have been the best thing for all involved. Arky had Nolan rollin on the hardwood, it would have kept Arky recruiting well in Texas, it would have limited ut influence, cause TTech & Baylor fetched their water. Border rivalries would have developed, and Broyles would have been there to warn us of the whorns true intentions. All state schools, no private or city campuses. It would have added 3½ million in population..so an increased TV market would not have occurred, but it would have significantly, in hindsight been better for the BIG 8 original members. It would have never won H2H for ratings vs SEC or B1G, but it would have been solid. Instead, we had texa$$ demand this and that, and move offices and officiating, then reniging on TV deals or revenue sharing..and poof Nebraska..then Colorado gone..with TC fnU coming in.. sad what could have been ..with a little vision. That said, the SEC has been a dream, with our football surprisingly good ( minus an unforseen civil social unrest heaped upon us by BLM, wasting about 5-6 years) in football, and terrible in BBall...which is the exact opposite of what everyone thought would happen (TBH, me included).
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:54 am to TampaTiger87
Broyles made the right call.
The move is questioned because the football program has imploded. But that is mostly due to poor coaching hires. We do well in most every sport other than football, which is the most visible here.
There is no doubt the competition is tougher in the SEC vs the SWC.
The move is questioned because the football program has imploded. But that is mostly due to poor coaching hires. We do well in most every sport other than football, which is the most visible here.
There is no doubt the competition is tougher in the SEC vs the SWC.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:37 am to MassHole
Frank saw the future. The old SWC had no appeal when it came to TV contracts. There was Ark, Tex and A&M and then a bunch of nobodies. And Texas was going to control whatever future negotiations to the benefit of Texas and the Baylors and Rices would have just rolled over and let them do it. It was a dying league and Frank could see that.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:54 am to Go Go Gata
Every expansion team that has joined the sec has improved it football program cept arky, but arky was heading that direction no matter what conference they were in(population trends location and demographics) so might as well get paid
Posted on 10/31/25 at 8:25 am to bamabaseballsec
This is true. Come to the SEC, get smacked some but improve your program overall.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 8:27 am to Go Go Gata
quote:Yeah. Been kind of a Foster Program until shithead Sankey came along.
So Arkansas got tired of Texas and their 7 little bros, left the SWC and had it shut down.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 8:31 am to Go Go Gata
Given that the PAC has collapsed, a legit Southwest Conference could be formed today.
Problem is - it won't rake in the same dough that the SEC does.
Even if Texas and OU went back to form it.
Problem is - it won't rake in the same dough that the SEC does.
Even if Texas and OU went back to form it.
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 8:32 am
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