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Here’s the TRUTH about LSU football in my opinion

Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:04 am
Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
5057 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:04 am
I don’t believe that football is the same that it used to be.

Now you don’t just have to pay for facilities and coaches to win you also have a 35 million dollar payroll for players. Teams simply cannot afford the crazy buyout numbers in this economy with NIL a reality. Woodward screwed you. He screwed us too but we can afford it a bit easier.

It comes down to choosing if you pay for buyouts or pay for players. Most teams cannot afford both.

You need billionaire alumni to win now. Billionaires. Because if you need to raise 40 million a year to pay players only billionaires can afford it annually.

And here’s the thing about billionaires. They don’t pay for investments that don’t win.

So I don’t know where LSU gets the cash to fix this, but I think you’re going to need the buyout numbers to come down a bit for a few years before you get enough cash to fix it.

Or you make the buyout and just have way less for NIL. I just don’t see 85 million coming into LSU in a single year to do both.

With NIL a reality the turnaround time for teams isn’t what it used to be. It’s a different ballgame now.

If I were LSU I’d fire Kelley. Pay the buyout. Put the money into players and hire an up and coming coach like the Aggies did. You’ve got to pay the players. You can grow a coach. Spend your money on talent.

I’d also watch baseball instead for a few years.

Flame away. But there’s truth to what I say.
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3608 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:09 am to
Agreed, it’ll be interesting to see how these contracts look in this round of coaching hires but I think the era of big buy outs are over, or at least they should be. The ADs have to grow spines here and tell Sexton and them NO on the big buy outs clauses.
Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
5057 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:15 am to
Oh and one more thing. Fire your AD. He signed that crazy arse contract. We cleaned house from the AD down. You should do the same.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20031 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:15 am to
quote:

it’ll be interesting to see how these contracts look in this round of coaching hires but I think the era of big buy outs are over, or at least they should be. The ADs have to grow spines here and tell Sexton and them NO on the big buy outs clauses.


Don’t worry.

We will overpay and provide a golden parachute to whoever we hire.

GM may be what programs need to focus on going forward. A good GM will allocate money properly for players and coaches.

Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
5057 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:17 am to
quote:

GM may be what programs need to focus on going forward. A good GM will allocate money properly for players and coaches.


I agree. I was just posting to fire the AD. Totally on point.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
3618 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:19 am to
quote:

it’ll be interesting to see how these contracts look in this round of coaching hires but I think the era of big buy outs are over, or at least they should be.


Ole Miss about to give Kiffin one of those contracts....
Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
5057 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:20 am to
quote:

Ole Miss about to give Kiffin one of those contracts....


They would be better served to hire an up and coming coach and pay players instead of coaches.
Posted by Tzanghi
Member since Nov 2020
1230 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:33 am to
This is a solid post and point. However I will take the other side for a couple of reasons. First, you assume the boosters are rational economic actors, and which I don’t think is true. People are absolutely livid about the product on the field for what Kelly is being paid, and they will do economically irrational things in response.

Second, I would bet Woodward raised promises for Kelly’s $100M before their deal was done. That money is still there, so now you’re just faced with raising enough for a new coach; see point one for why that could be likely.


If humans behaved in economically rational ways, you’d be spot on. But this performance by Kelly over the past 4 years has the entire state absolutely furious. Kelly will not finish his contract here and is probably gone by the end of next year.
Posted by SETH6180
TEXAS
Member since Feb 2020
706 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:35 am to
It’s LSU, we always watch baseball
Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
5057 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:45 am to
quote:

This is a solid post and point. However I will take the other side for a couple of reasons. First, you assume the boosters are rational economic actors, and which I don’t think is true. People are absolutely livid about the product on the field for what Kelly is being paid, and they will do economically irrational things in response. Second, I would bet Woodward raised promises for Kelly’s $100M before their deal was done. That money is still there, so now you’re just faced with raising enough for a new coach; see point one for why that could be likely. If humans behaved in economically rational ways, you’d be spot on. But this performance by Kelly over the past 4 years has the entire state absolutely furious. Kelly will not finish his contract here and is probably gone by the end of next year.


All good points. You’re right. But this is a lot like financial investing. You can’t make emotional decisions. If you do, the outcome is probably random. Maybe you win or maybe you lose.

Structuring a program based on paying players is the way to go.

Indiana is in the playoffs. Vandy also in the playoffs possibly. It’s no longer a requirement to have a 100 million athletics payroll. Spend money on things that build players and their salaries. Not on head coaching contracts. That does very little for your team in an NIL era.

I personally hope you resign another crazy buyout. It will only limit your NIL money. I’m all for that.

But that’s a horrible decision.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17772 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:46 am to
Agreed. Woodward guaranteed this imbecile $100m

We are screwed for the foreseeable future
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
3331 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:47 am to
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And here’s the thing about billionaires. They don’t pay for investments that don’t win.


Isn’t A&M the all time leader in spending without winning?
Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
5057 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:48 am to
No man. 10 million a year. So go out and hire a hungry coach for 2 million a year. Pay the note on the 10 million every year and put all the money you can towards paying players.
Posted by pkf4lsu
League City, Texas
Member since Jan 2005
4940 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:48 am to
LSU and their board have the money. Don’t worry about that.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
34065 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:49 am to
Sounds like a very roundabout way of saying NIL has ruined college football.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
48241 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:52 am to
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Flame away. But there’s truth to what I say

No flaming here. I agree with 100% of what you said. LSU is in a generational predicament right now and it’s infuriating.
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
7843 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:52 am to
hire an up and coming coach like the Aggies did.

I wouldn’t really consider Elko an up and coming coach. He was the Head Coach at Duke before being hired to A&M. I get what you’re saying but you’re making Elko out to be some hidden gym that A&M found.
Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
5057 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 7:58 am to
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I wouldn’t really consider Elko an up and coming coach. He was the Head Coach at Duke before being hired to A&M. I get what you’re saying but you’re making Elko out to be some hidden gym that A&M found.


He was a find for sure. And he had experience and some success but he wasn’t a national championship contender coach when we hired him. We just believed he could grow a program.

That’s what I mean. Find a serviceable coach that is able to build a program. Don’t look for a splash hire, it’s fools gold.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
17386 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 8:01 am to
We
Have
A
Winner
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
7843 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 8:02 am to
Find a serviceable coach that is able to build a program

BK is the winningest active CFN coach of all time and built his programs along his stops.

The problem is that was all before NIL and like other programs, LSU hasn’t figured it out.

If Elko doesn’t win the NC this year what will Aggie be saying about Elko? That he can’t win the big game(s)?

Every program has its own storyline.

I’d pump the brakes a little bit about A&M suddenly on the cusp of going on some dynasty run.
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