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It would be hilarious if FSU and Clemson have to join the Big 12.

Posted on 7/30/25 at 8:33 am
Posted by Uga Alum
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 8:33 am
The SEC obviously already has a presence in Florida and South Carolina. So the SEC may not be interested in Clemson and FSU.

Clemson and FSU are not AAU schools, so the Big 10 may not be interested.

Clemson and FSU may be left out of the top 2 conferences and forced to join the scrubs in the Big 12.

Hilarious.
Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 8:37 am to
Give me North Carolina over those two all day.

NC + ND would be best available for the SEC. Although people may not like that.
Posted by PSS101
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 8:37 am to
FSU really messed up when the SEC invited them to join in the early 90s, but Bobby Bowden ran to the ACC to rack up easy wins and titles. The SEC has not forgotten. That would have been their ticket into the SEC, but they said no thanks
Posted by Uga Alum
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 8:38 am to
This is why in life you should never shy away from competition.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 8:40 am to
I hope it happens. It’ll mean we will have 3 power conferences instead of 2. Competition is good, we don’t need 2 conferences running the sport because they’ll ruin it only looking out for their interest
Posted by Uga Alum
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 8:42 am to
Bro, I think you’re missing the writing on the wall. The SEC and Big 10 are going to start their own separate league. They will be like the NFC and AFC. All other conferences will soon be irrelevant.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 8:52 am to
The SEC and Big 10 are going to start their own separate league. They will be like the NFC and AFC I know it’s heading this way and I don’t like that. This would be a step away from that because Clemson and FSU are big enough they won’t be left out regardless
Posted by Uga Alum
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 8:53 am to
They definitely are not big enough. They will be fodder along with Miami.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 9:02 am to
It would be even funnier if SEC kicked out missouri and brought in Missouri State.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 9:12 am to
If that happens, college football will die quicker than it already is.
Posted by Uga Alum
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 9:13 am to
Nothing funny about that. That is just a sound, logical, and strategic move that will improve the conference.
Posted by Landmass
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 9:14 am to
What surprises me is when you compare the Big12 to the ACC, the lineup of schools in the ACC are much better than the ones in the Big12. The ACC still distributes more money per school. So, I really don't understand this perception that the Big12, with its portfolio of directional schools, is somehow better than the ACC.

Big12 distribution: $37.8 - $42.1 million
ACC distribution: $43.1 - $46.4 million





This post was edited on 7/30/25 at 9:16 am
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 9:25 am to
Bro, I think you’re missing the writing on the wall. The SEC and Big 10 are going to start their own separate league. They will be like the NFC and AFC. All other conferences will soon be irrelevant.

I think you’re missing the writing on the wall. This isn’t an arms race, it’s musical chairs, or the highlander, you know there can be only one. I agree we are clearly headed to a separate division that’s like the nfl model. What I don’t agree with is it’ll be the big ten AND the sec. Itll be the sec OR the big ten. It was never the nfl and the afl. Doesnt work having two organizations in different regions trying to find edges. It works putting everyone under one umbrella. That’s how you get a better grip on nil and transfer portal. Also why Clemson and fsu won’t get left out. They’re way too big. The bubble teams will end up being the nc st ok st tcu byu Syracuse etc. teams
Posted by Landmass
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 9:32 am to
quote:

Bro, I think you’re missing the writing on the wall. The SEC and Big 10 are going to start their own separate league.


If this happens, you better believe that the next step will be these two conferences eating each other. We may be left with nothing after the dust settles. I agree that the top conferences need to split away and make a new division or league. I don't think that a partnership between the SEC and B1G is a good idea though. Look how the B1G had an agreement with the PAC-12. We all know how that ended.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 9:32 am to
Bc the big 12 top to bottom is the same school, basically a giant middle class. The acc has Clem fsu Miami bringing in close to half the viewership. And it’s top heavy, fsu and Clemson have won all but maybe 5 acc crowns since 2000. Any two of those three leave and the acc is worse than the big 12. And the fact that two of those schools just sued the bottom of the conference into g5 status and want to leave, the perception only gets worse.
Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
8352 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 9:32 am to
the unequal distribution of $$$ that's now part of the ACC's future through 2031 may end up being the thing that keeps those two in that league -

the 2031 TV contract negotiations will be the linchpin to remain - and I suspect ESPN will want to keep their basketball ties to the ACC - with football being a byproduct -
quote:

Most notably, the revenue-distribution model will now incorporate TV viewership as a way for the league’s top programs to generate more revenue. That formula would see 60% of the league’s TV revenues go into a pot for distribution based on a rolling five-year formula tied to viewership ratings, while the remaining 40% would be distributed equally among the members.

The upside could be $15 million or more for top-earning schools, while it could also result in a decline of about $7 million for others, a person familiar with the situation told The Associated Press on Monday. That person spoke on condition of anonymity because neither the league nor the schools had publicly addressed the deal terms at the time.


the football schedule clearly affords a less daunting path to a CFP berth - as we've already seen -
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 9:34 am to
That’s what I’m saying. It makes way more sense having everyone under one administration.
Posted by Landmass
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 9:34 am to
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And it’s top heavy


You just described the B1G
Posted by GTnerd
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Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 9:40 am to
Thats not going to happen- FSU and Clem (playing an ACC schedule) have better tv viewership than 75% of the SEC and 90% of the BIG
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
10128 posts
Posted on 7/30/25 at 9:43 am to
It would be hilarious, but I don't see a universe where Clemson and FSU get passed over by both the B1G and the SEC. I think FSU has its choice of destination. And even though it isn't an AAU school yet, it will be soon. From there, the SEC isn't going to let a program like Clemson get away:

1. it's the 17th biggest athletic department by revenue (behind only FSU, and surprisingly, Virginia, in the ACC);

2. it generates good to great viewership and has strong game attendance/atmosphere;

3. it fits neatly in the existing SEC footprint which means no unwieldy logistical/travel issues created like we're going to watch unfold in the B1G;

4. lots of recent success in football plus strong sports like baseball that fit the SEC blueprint;

5. it is well-regarded academically even if it isn't AAU - ranking 80th in this years US News, which would slot it in at 6th in the SEC, behind Texas A&M and ahead of Auburn; and

6. it creates immediately compelling match-ups with SEC schools: South Carolina, Georgia, Auburn, Alabama.
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