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Braden Smith Article on ESPN

Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:39 am
Posted by WarCamEagle88
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:39 am
Anyone else read this story yesterday?

LINK

Pretty wild. Never heard of that particular version of OCD. Sounds terrible. I’m glad he was able to find some relief and will be back to playing.

Also, that Ibogaine stuff seems like a great thing to heal people. I hope they legalize it here for treating PTSD and other addiction/mental health conditions plaguing our country.

Posted by CharlieTiger
ATL
Member since Jun 2014
919 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:04 am to
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Also, that Ibogaine stuff seems like a great thing to heal people. I hope they legalize it here for treating PTSD and other addiction/mental health conditions plaguing our country.


Not all that familiar with Ibogaine, but psilocybin research is really showing really great effectiveness for treating those types of issues.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
44972 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:27 am to
I would recommend reading the IndyStar article. The lead reporter is the former Auburn beat writer for Al.com and is the last good reporter from Al.com to cover Auburn.

I believe he was the only state reporter that predicted Auburn to beat Bama in 2013 and predicted 31-28.


Posted by WarCamEagle88
NC
Member since Feb 2018
232 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:37 am to
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Not all that familiar with Ibogaine, but psilocybin research is really showing really great effectiveness for treating those types of issues.


Ibogaine is a chemical extracted from the root of the Iboga plant (from Africa). It’s a psychedelic that lasts around 12 hours. Studies have shown just 1 treatment session can cure PTSD and addiction symptoms, and apparently OCD as well. It’s currently legal in Mexico and there are several clinics that offer that treatment. There was a recent Joe Rogan podcast with the former governor of Texas Rick Perry discussing Perry’s support of legalization of Ibogaine for veterans. I’d recommend listening to it if you’re interested in hearing more.

And yes, psilocybin is great for treating various mental health issues as well. Hoping Bobby Kennedy helps get these medicines legalized before he leaves office. Lots of people need the help, and the current pharma options have tons of side effects that the natural medicines don’t have.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
28127 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:40 am to
So he was OCD about living up to Jesus's standard?

Wild. Never heard of that before.

Asks the question.

Did his devotion to religion cause his OCD or was his OCD there the whole time and it just needed a place to reveal itself?
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 11:40 am
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
44972 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:43 am to
Great question. Sounds like he is simply beating himself up.
Posted by FlyDownTheField
Member since Dec 2013
2793 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:45 am to
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Did his devotion to religion cause his OCD or was his OCD there the whole time and it just needed a place to reveal itself?


Typically that stuff is there from childhood or past traumatic experiences and it comes out in people decades later. Religion was probably the way his started revealing. Religion was just the thing he created in his mind that was "forcing" him to try to be absolutely perfect and it drove him insane.

Guy was probably thinking God/Jesus were talking to him telling him he was a failure and should end it if he ever sinned.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 11:48 am
Posted by Rhymenoceros
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
4540 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:33 pm to
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Did his devotion to religion cause his OCD or was his OCD there the whole time and it just needed a place to reveal itself?


I had never heard of anything like that either - my question is this something that could be a symptom of or directly attributable to CTE?

My (limited) understanding is that CTE is the physical result of repeated head shots, but CTE can manifest itself through a number of psychological issues. Am I off on that?

Posted by CharlieTiger
ATL
Member since Jun 2014
919 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:29 pm to
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My (limited) understanding is that CTE is the physical result of repeated head shots, but CTE can manifest itself through a number of psychological issues. Am I off on that?


Yes, it's caused by repeated head/brain injuries and while I can't speak to the second part, it does seem to manifest itself in a number of ways. Look at some of the former NFL players that were diagnosed after death. Quite a few different manifestations. Seems like the brain essentially just goes haywire.

Mayo clinic on CTE: LINK
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15235 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:33 pm to
It would be just about impossible to disentangle CTE with various psychiatric issues that affect the population at large. Unless there was a diagnosis before a person ever started playing football.
Posted by leeman101
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2020
2028 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:28 pm to
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So he was OCD about living up to Jesus's standard?


I wonder if he came from a church that was very legalistic and about checking the boxes on a list.

Jesus fulfilled the law and got us off it.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
12214 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 9:04 am to
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There was a recent Joe Rogan podcast with the former governor of Texas Rick Perry discussing Perry’s support of legalization of Ibogaine for veterans. I’d recommend listening to it if you’re interested in hearing more.


I listened to that one. One of the better podcasts I’ve heard in a while. Really interesting
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21646 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 9:31 pm to
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Ibogaine is a chemical extracted from the root of the Iboga plant (from Africa). It’s a psychedelic that lasts around 12 hours. Studies have shown just 1 treatment session can cure PTSD and addiction symptoms, and apparently OCD as well.

Isn't it similar to ayahuasca?

I remember Netflix had a documentary a long time ago that was about this guy who had tried every detox/rehab method in the world to kick his heroin/opioid addiction. He went to this place in Mexico where they put him to sleep for a day or two and gave him some kind of medicine that induced a rapid detox while he slept through it. Then he did a couple Ibogaine treatments and just didn't want opioids anymore. It was pretty crazy.
Posted by WarCamEagle88
NC
Member since Feb 2018
232 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:31 am to
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Isn't it similar to ayahuasca?


It’s similar to ayahuasca in the sense that it’s a powerful, long-lasting psychedelic, but my understanding is that the experiences are different. I believe ayahuasca’s experience tends to be more comforting and pleasant (on average), while ibogaine is more scary and challenging to the user. I’ve never used either, so I can’t say with certainty though. That’s just what my memory of hearing other people talking about their experiences is.
Posted by BranTheHuman2
Los Angeles
Member since Jun 2019
592 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 6:27 pm to
I saw a movie at SXSW a few years ago called Pure O that was about OCD and all the different types. It wasn't a particularly great movie, but the OCD scenes were so fascinating. It's so much more than the stuff that we normally see in TV and movies.
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