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Coach Oats made a bad hire for his defensive coach.

Posted on 3/21/25 at 11:48 pm
Posted by MikeyInTheHam
Birmingham, AL
Member since Jan 2007
811 posts
Posted on 3/21/25 at 11:48 pm
Hiring an NBA coach for defense? The NBA has no defense. Neither does Bama.
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
7879 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 5:58 am to
The defensive schemes and adjustments are subpar and have been for a while. Charlie Henry is sorely missed.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19180 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 6:03 am to
I said Luke Yacklch should've been the hire.
This post was edited on 3/22/25 at 6:04 am
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11606 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 6:37 am to
Regardless of who it is, that mistake needs to be corrected as soon as the season ends.
Posted by TTOWN RONMON
Member since Oct 2023
1150 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 12:18 am to
When you play fast pace you are going to give up more points. If you grind out 10 minute drives in football, you give up less points than if you have 2 minute TDs. Its just math.

As per the defense overall, we lost our top big man for the season early on didn't we? The teams we seem to be having problems with are the bigger teams like UF. By this I mean big wing types. The bigger problem is us not hitting the threes consistently like we did last year, Stephenson has almost been invisible all year long.
Posted by Legionfield
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
3157 posts
Posted on 3/23/25 at 8:36 am to
How was Cliff big ten all defensive team? Has he blocked a shot this season?? LOL jimmy’s and Joe’s ain’t helping either….Mo and Stevenson only ones interested in defending most games….
This post was edited on 3/23/25 at 8:38 am
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22447 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:34 am to
Wrightsell was probably our best perimeter defender. Reid is probably #2 and of course is still working his way back from his injury.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
8711 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:40 am to
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Hiring an NBA coach for defense?


Defense not being a little closer to the efficiency level of the offense is certainly this teams' weaker spot.

However, I'm not sure how much you guys listen to interviews with our high level transfers and recruits.

What's mentioned more than anything in choosing Alabama is Oats commitment to an NBA offensive and defensive style.

Not saying the defense doesn't need to improve but I'm sure Oats sees that as tweaking the system and getting players more focused on things like who to force left, who to go under screens on, stripping offensive rebounders etc etc.

His main calling card though is the NBA-centric system he employs.

Posted by jjv0004
Greenville, SC
Member since Sep 2022
496 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:22 am to
It's as much about the players as the coaching. Bama has not been good at defense in 3-4 years. Herb Jones helped that a few years ago as he might be the most dominant defender in college I have seen.

This year's defense is not as bad as you think. Check out the article.

LINK
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7893 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:30 am to
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Bama has not been good at defense in 3-4 years


The Brandon Miller season, 2 years ago, Bama had a top 5 defense.

This year Bama is 29th on kenpom currently. Which is good enough to win the title. Our biggest issue is transition defense. Teams that can also get out and run hurt us tremendously, especially if it's one of the games where we are turning the ball over constantly.

Having a top 10 3pt defense, being #1 in rebs and top 10 in Orebs helps.
Posted by jjv0004
Greenville, SC
Member since Sep 2022
496 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:42 am to
I completely forgot about that team and how good they were on defense.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
8796 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:29 pm to
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The Brandon Miller season, 2 years ago, Bama had a top 5 defense.

This year Bama is 29th on kenpom currently. Which is good enough to win the title. Our biggest issue is transition defense. Teams that can also get out and run hurt us tremendously, especially if it's one of the games where we are turning the ball over constantly.

Having a top 10 3pt defense, being #1 in rebs and top 10 in Orebs helps.


In my opinion, transition defense problems are almost totally a function of our on and off relationship with ball security and smart passing. When we're clean with possession, teams don't usually put up big transition numbers.

Our defense has improved a lot since around February. Injuries have robbed of us a lot. Wrightsell was a reliable albeit not elite defender lost for the year. Philon was limited but playing hurt for most of the SEC schedule. Derrion Reid probably should have been easing into a timeshare with Youngblood at the 3 but that was sidelined due to Reid's injury. I don't think it is any accident that we became a much better defensive team when Philon returned to the starting lineup. However some games Youngblood is just going to get eaten up by bigger 3s since he's more of a G/F wing. Reid getting back into the swing of it is a big factor in these late stages..
Posted by paperwasp
23x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
26607 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

The NBA has no defense. Neither does Bama.



Per KenPom, we currently have the 29th best defensive efficiency, while simultaneously having played the most difficult schedule of opposing offenses in the country (and by a large margin).

I'd say that's pretty good, especially considering our tempo, which affords an extremely high number of possessions.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
16546 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 6:41 am to
Ken Pom Adj Def: 29
Torvik Adj Def: 27

We aren’t where we should be, but we aren’t a disaster defensively like we were last year.

Doesn’t help with an undersized perimeter guard group who tend to get lost frequently.

Statistically Torv says our interior guys are lights out defensively, but the guards are a major defensive liability with some of the worst scores left in the tournament. If we want to clean up our defensive looks we need to start there.
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 6:42 am
Posted by BigFolks6347
Alabama
Member since Sep 2022
2058 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:12 am to
It’s mainly two of our guards getting torched. Sears and Holloway just aren’t good defenders and Philon gets confused on who to take after a pick is set on him. Overall Philon is a good defender and if we can get Sears and Holloway to play a little better defensively we can beat anyone left in this tournament.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
16546 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:22 am to
quote:

It’s mainly two of our guards getting torched. Sears and Holloway just aren’t good defenders and Philon gets confused on who to take after a pick is set on him. Overall Philon is a good defender and if we can get Sears and Holloway to play a little better...


The data backs up Philon being the best defensively of the group, but they’re all minus defenders to the point that you do have to wonder if it’s somewhat scheme or coaching because Philon is way too athletically gifted to not be able to at least be average defensively.

The guy who really stood out with limited data was Houston Mallette. He would on paper be our best defender whereas Wrightsell and Youngblood statistically would’ve been our worst defenders which is both surprising and disappointing for veterans.
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 8:25 am
Posted by paperwasp
23x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
26607 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:25 am to
quote:

Sears and Holloway just aren’t good defenders

I've been very pleased with Holloway at times this season, especially considering he was thrust into a role that wasn't intended after Wrightsell went down, Philon got banged up, and Youngblood just wasn't ready yet.

But almost certainly he's statistically the worst defender on the team.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24804 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:29 am to
One thing I'm surprised nobody had mentioned is how bad Cliff was at the beginning of the season. He took several games to adjust to okay drop coverage and being a roaming rim protector, vs playing man vs lumbering big 10 centers. But the light bulb went on, and he's been looking great. That definitely has an impact in our defense improving throughout the season.
Posted by BigFolks6347
Alabama
Member since Sep 2022
2058 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:27 am to
The biggest issue I see is guys getting confused on when to switch and when not to switch. Holloway I believe can still be taught to be a good defender but with Sears it’s more of an effort thing. He constantly gives up three pointers because he plays too far off his man. It hurts all three of them that we don’t have Mallette to help with defending other wings.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
16546 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 10:35 am to
I agree Cliff has acclimated defensively to playing in space, but I’d actually argue his biggest change has been offensively.

Teams had begun pressuring the perimeter to take away the three point looks from our shorter guards including holding on the picks.

The adjustment and answer has been to some degree to lean harder on the lob game. If the teams are overplaying the shot look outside it leaves them extremely vulnerable to the lob over the top for the automatic dunk or foul.

My final take is that Mo D needs to start. The numbers are so clear, he has an incredible impact defensively, but recently has been a major factor on offense. I frankly don’t care who loses a few minutes, he needs to be on the court more because even on the plays where it doesn’t show up in the stats he’s making a Herb Jones type contribution every night.
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