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For all of those arguing for scheduling more OOC cupcakes as threatened by Bama's AD.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:16 am
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:16 am
Is this really what you want to see: your team playing more meaningless games? Are you gonna sit home on Saturday to watch your team play Charleston. I'm not and few will. We need more meaningful games not less.
Hopefully when all the emotions and hurt feeling subside, clearer heads will prevail.
Hopefully when all the emotions and hurt feeling subside, clearer heads will prevail.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:23 am to SemperFiDawg
I'd rather go to the playoffs. So if that means adopting Ole Miss's OOC scheduling format, I'm all for it. No offense to Ole Miss. I mean, basically we're all almost there now. Most SEC teams play 3 patsies and one Power 5.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:25 am to SemperFiDawg
I understand his point but also think that if every elite SEC team plays 2 OOC games against 2 different P4 leagues, wins most of them, then it's a much bigger positive at the end of the year than beating up on the Sun Belt.
The thing we have to do moving forward is spread out the OOC games to the B1G and the BXII. And they won't agree to games we need to loudly make that clear to everyone.
Next year, for example, tons of opportunities for wins, but way too many clustered in the ACC.
- @ FSU, FSU
- @ Miami
- @ Georgia Tech
- @ Louisville
- @ Clemson, Clemson
- Syracuse
- Virginia Tech, @ Virginia Tech
- @ Baylor
- Arizona State
- Kansas
- Wisconsin
- Michigan
- @ Ohio State
- Notre Dame, @ Notre Dame
The thing we have to do moving forward is spread out the OOC games to the B1G and the BXII. And they won't agree to games we need to loudly make that clear to everyone.
Next year, for example, tons of opportunities for wins, but way too many clustered in the ACC.
- @ FSU, FSU
- @ Miami
- @ Georgia Tech
- @ Louisville
- @ Clemson, Clemson
- Syracuse
- Virginia Tech, @ Virginia Tech
- @ Baylor
- Arizona State
- Kansas
- Wisconsin
- Michigan
- @ Ohio State
- Notre Dame, @ Notre Dame
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:30 am to terriblegreen
ANd Ole Miss wasn't ready for SEC play when it played Kentucky and LSU.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:30 am to SemperFiDawg
I think a lot more attention should be directed toward the SEC and B1G offices for their utter failure to put together even remotely balanced conference schedules.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:32 am to terriblegreen
quote:Ole Miss's OOC scheduling format didn't help them make the playoffs. 3 conference losses had them sitting their asses at home along with Alabama on Saturday.
I'd rather go to the playoffs. So if that means adopting Ole Miss's OOC scheduling format, I'm all for it.
3 losses (2 OOC vs. formidable P4 teams) had Clemson in a position to make the playoffs on Saturday.
So it really doesn't matter if you blast shitty P4 teams like Wake or Wisconsin in OOC and throttle your G5 and FCS opponents. Win the games you're supposed to win in conference and you'll be playing the day before selection Sunday with a shot at the CFP. You're even allowed to have a mulligan along the way like Tennessee.
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 8:35 am
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:36 am to SemperFiDawg
Fans don't want it, but coaches hoping to survive and play meaningless bowl games are for scheduling cupcakes.
When the playoff committee rewards it, it bakes it into the cake.
Only rewarding strength of schedule will change it.
When the playoff committee rewards it, it bakes it into the cake.
Only rewarding strength of schedule will change it.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:39 am to SemperFiDawg
Im with OP on this one. Can't believe I'm surrounded by LSU fans on this board that want LSU to p**sss out. Nah fam, I've waited months for the season to start give me Clemson all day over Charleston. Tfoh with that weak shite. If you don't win, you still have ample opportunity to make up for it and if you cant; then you DONT DESERVE a playoff spot.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:40 am to SummerOfGeorge
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The thing we have to do moving forward is spread out the OOC games to the B1G and the BXII. And they won't agree to games we need to loudly make that clear to everyone.
This is the key. Fans want big games, just look at the TV ratings. It's the Big 12 & the B1G coming up short. They need to step it up, if scheduling cupcakes is incentivized it just keeps all the crabs in the same bucket.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:41 am to SummerOfGeorge
Good post SOG. I agree.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:46 am to SemperFiDawg
You cannot let these leagues have large chunks of their teams cluster off and have no outside interaction with P4 leagues.
Force them to drop to 8 conference games and schedule a P4 team if that is what it takes, but you can't let leagues have half of a 16 team league basically never play the SEC or the B1G. That's not acceptable.
Force them to drop to 8 conference games and schedule a P4 team if that is what it takes, but you can't let leagues have half of a 16 team league basically never play the SEC or the B1G. That's not acceptable.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:47 am to Bigdawgb
The B1G and SEC seem to have a bit of a Molotov-Ribbentrop agreement when it comes to OOC scheduling.
Obviously there are the in-state OOC games that the SEC and ACC have that will be - and should be - played.
The B12 has had so much change of membership and the way OOC games are scheduled years in advance makes that difficult. Hell, Texas or TAMU could schedule Texas Tech OOC and TTU may be in the ACC or Pac 12 by the time that game is actually played. Who would have thought Florida-UCF or MSU-ASU would have been SEC vs. B12 games when the contracts were signed?
Obviously there are the in-state OOC games that the SEC and ACC have that will be - and should be - played.
The B12 has had so much change of membership and the way OOC games are scheduled years in advance makes that difficult. Hell, Texas or TAMU could schedule Texas Tech OOC and TTU may be in the ACC or Pac 12 by the time that game is actually played. Who would have thought Florida-UCF or MSU-ASU would have been SEC vs. B12 games when the contracts were signed?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:48 am to SemperFiDawg
I’d rather see Boise St have to earn the #3 seed in non conference play.
Everyone knows they can’t get enough quality wins within their conference.
Everyone knows they can’t get enough quality wins within their conference.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:49 am to SemperFiDawg
Avoiding losses is by far the optimal path to the playoff.
There are other factors but that's clearly the dominant one.
There are other factors but that's clearly the dominant one.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:52 am to terriblegreen
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Most SEC teams play 3 patsies and one Power 5
I do think the cupcake games should be completed by week 4 or 5.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:53 am to Murph4HOF
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The B1G and SEC seem to have a bit of a Molotov-Ribbentrop agreement when it comes to OOC scheduling.
First off, beautiful historical analogy
That is thawing some in the next decade, though (but we've already lost some and that this point seem likely to lose more).
Alabama - Wisconsin
Alabama - Ohio State
Alabama - Minnesota
Georgia - Ohio State
Mississippi State - Minnesota
Missouri - Illinois
Oklahoma - Michigan
Oklahoma - Nebraska
Ole Miss - Purdue
Tennessee - Nebraska
Texas - Ohio State
Texas - Michigan
Vanderbilt - Purdue
One of the biggest issues is the B1G plays 9 conference games, so their OOC inventory is 16 games less than ours. That was originally seen as "good", but at this point it feels more like a way to isolate yourselves.
Iowa hasn't played an OOC game vs a P4 other than Iowa State in like a decade. Northwestern rarely plays anyone but Stanford, Duke or Vanderbilt.
Scheduling has to get fixed. If that means having a blank spot on everyone's schedule each year that gets filled with a SEC/B1G Challenge type game, so be it. But something has to be done to figure out a better way to cross pollinate games between leagues to get a better idea of who is good and who is a fraud.
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 8:56 am
Posted on 12/9/24 at 8:56 am to Crowknowsbest
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for their utter failure to put together even remotely balanced conference schedules.
I don’t think this is even possible in the NIL era. The outlook on teams’ upcoming season can change overnight.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:00 am to SemperFiDawg
Scheduling more cupcake games won’t help them beat Vandy or Oklahoma.
This is just more typical whiny arse excuses from Bama that doesn’t hold water at all.
It’s not like they had a hard OOC schedule this year and they are REQUIRED to play a set number of conference games.
This is just more typical whiny arse excuses from Bama that doesn’t hold water at all.
It’s not like they had a hard OOC schedule this year and they are REQUIRED to play a set number of conference games.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:01 am to Mizz-SEC
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When the playoff committee rewards it, it bakes it into the cake.
Except they didn’t. They punished for LOSING to bad teams.
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