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This team felt like a fraud from the start

Posted on 10/6/24 at 10:57 am
Posted by Goombaw
Kentucky
Member since Jan 2013
6300 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 10:57 am
The hallmarks of a legit championship contender have always been strong team leadership, a good defense, and great QB play. You simply can’t win a title without a combination of those three.

This team has felt like it was lacking in all three areas, but there was enough window dressing to cover it up, until we ran into brick wall and the facade was torn down.

Strong team leadership: There were warning signs, particularly against USF, and the second half of the Georgia game. No one, not the coaches, not the players, got these guys motivated to man up and take back control of the game. Malachi Moore’s hissy fit at the end of the Vandy game tells you all you need to know about the culture of this team. They’re charmin soft.

Good defense: The secondary is trash. The linebackers are lost. Jihaad Campbell is not an SEC-caliber LB. The tackling is atrocious. Attempting to punch the ball out instead of actually bringing the guy to the ground is a losing move. I’m not sure what’s to blame more, the scheme or the players, but our defense isn’t good. The fact that Vandy converted every single important third down ought to tell you something. Georgia’s fourth down conversions say the same thing: the defense has no chest.

Great QB play: Milroe is fine. He’s not as bad as some on here think, but he’s not great either. His decision making ability is lacking, and he’s fast but easy to bring down. He has a tendency to hero-ball, and has been bailed out on some inaccurate passes by great WR play. He’s probably a better passer than Jalen Hurts, but not as good running.

The signs were there that Bama wasn’t legit. Penalties, the offense disappearing for long stretches, the defensive lapses. The explosiveness of the offense was covering a multitude of problems that all came to light yesterday in humiliating fashion.

Here’s the deal: it’s all out there now. The mask has been torn off. The warts, deficiencies, everything is out in the open. Where do you go from here? One thing about a loss like this; it can galvanize a team, cause them to take a hard look in the mirror and make the needed adjustments in preparation and attitude, and actually turn them into a good team. Or it can have the opposite effect, and they lock into repeating the same mistakes again and again because “you don’t know our team like we do, these guys bring it every day, LANK” and so on…

They were frauds. Not anymore. We know who they are now, I really hope they do too.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
31234 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 11:02 am to
Some of ours fans weren’t around for the numerous trips to Shreveport and it shows.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7955 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 11:04 am to
Spot on assessment but how do you fix the defense?
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
23756 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 11:05 am to
Milroe didn't lose that game yesterday


That belongs squarely on the coaches
Posted by Goombaw
Kentucky
Member since Jan 2013
6300 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 11:06 am to
I’ve been a Bama fan since the early 90s, when I was old enough to know what a football was, bro.

If you have an argument against anything I said, feel free to share it.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
70550 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 11:06 am to
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Spot on assessment


Debatable.

quote:

how do you fix the defense?


By scoring more points than the defense allows.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
31234 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 11:09 am to
It’s a lot of bitching because Alabama lost. Winning cures all and the side of our fans that persists when Alabama loses is one of the most embarrassing looks in all of sports.

This team either wakes up and rebounds or they go 8-4 with a bowl game in Jacksonville. Let it play out and settle the frick down.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
35119 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 11:10 am to
quote:

Some of ours fans weren’t around for the numerous trips to Shreveport and it shows.


Agreed.
Posted by Goombaw
Kentucky
Member since Jan 2013
6300 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 11:10 am to
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Milroe didn't lose that game yesterday

I agree. He also didn’t win it, though. I don’t really blame him for the fumble, but the pass across the line of scrimmage was rough.

That being said, we absolutely should win any game where we score 35 points.
Posted by Goombaw
Kentucky
Member since Jan 2013
6300 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 11:18 am to
Even when Bama was losing to Louisiana Tech, we were beating Vandy by 20…

quote:

This team either wakes up and rebounds or they go 8-4 with a bowl game in Jacksonville.

Which is basically what I said at the end, but thanks for chiming in.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22641 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 11:20 am to
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Some of ours fans weren’t around for the numerous trips to Shreveport and it shows.


My college years were DuBose, Fran, & Shula.

So nice try
Posted by JIB
Member since Sep 2013
2573 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 11:34 am to
I guess we could say this was Milroe’s worst game. He threw for 310 yards on 75% completion with a 188 QB rating. Hell of a stat line for a “bad” game. He led the team to 35 points. He did more than enough to win.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
20160 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 11:38 am to
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Milroe didn't lose that game yesterday




His mistakes hurt. Pick 6, fumble, had a first down running but threw the ball past the LOS making us punt, ...
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 11:44 am to
quote:

This team felt like a fraud from the start


I'm not reading all that shite, but no it didn't.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 11:47 am to
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His mistakes hurt. Pick 6, fumble, had a first down running but threw the ball past the LOS making us punt


That's not the first time either. I think he did that last season too.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10860 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 11:49 am to
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I’ve been a Bama fan since the early 90s, when I was old enough to know what a football was, bro.


You are far too old to be this reactionary then
Posted by Section 80
Member since Apr 2013
884 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Milroe didn't lose that game yesterday


That belongs squarely on the coaches



Yea but just like in the Rose Bowl if Milroe doesn't fumble .. do we lose either game?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
90015 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 12:02 pm to
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Milroe is fine. He’s not as bad as some on here think, but he’s not great either.
Insanity

The guy is throwing missiles to all parts of the field on time to their numbers. He was amazing yesterday.

He’s close to being the absolute no questions asked best QB in the country.
This post was edited on 10/6/24 at 12:03 pm
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26495 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 12:04 pm to
Bama football is not dead like folks are making it out to be in these over-reactionary posts. There will be a number of posts that folks will have to eat.

To be clear, I think we have problems and flaws that need to be addressed. No hiding that. I posted after the UGA win that we have problems with in-game coaching.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10860 posts
Posted on 10/6/24 at 12:24 pm to
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I posted after the UGA win that we have problems with in-game coaching.


Yeah and I still see this as getting your bearings kinda thing. I think the coaching staff had an idea for the defense which was to limit big plays, force the other team to go on long drives and wait for them to make mistakes. In theory, its a good plan. Against certain kinds of teams it will work much better.

If you are a new coach, you set a plan, you convey it to your players and you want to show confidence in it. Throwing out your gameplan at the first signs of failure shows that you dont have confidence in it.

Weve seen now that in certain situations it works...but in certain situations, the team is gonna have to deviate from the plan.

You have to give people room to make mistakes, learn from them and improve. Thankfully Finebaum caller kind of reactionary people arent the decision makers
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