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re: Saban mentioned it last weekend

Posted on 5/17/24 at 6:19 am to
Posted by prattalumni
Member since Sep 2012
784 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 6:19 am to
We've witnessed the greed of the NCAA, Universities, and TV conglomerates. Then we witnessed the greed of head coaches and their agents. We are now witnessing the greed of athletes and their families. Greed will be the downfall of college ball for all involved. We just all need Jesus.
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 6:21 am
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15211 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 6:54 am to
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I’ve got a better idea. Don’t pay them anything but a chance to earn a higher education.


Go watch NAIA then. Go support those schools.

You guys want premium athletes and a premium product but expect everyone to make money except the actual workforce.

It's why we're in this outrageous situation in the first place.

Morons who didn't want to create a reasonable system to adequate compensate so now wild wild west
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10112 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 12:02 pm to
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You guys want premium athletes and a premium product but expect everyone to make money except the actual workforce.



Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
1588 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 1:00 pm to
I don’t have a problem with athletes earning an income. But it looks like a higher education isn’t worth much now days.

And as far as watching NAIA, I’ve been watching and going to Bama games a long time. You was probably still shitin yellow when I was going to games young man.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15211 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 4:15 am to
You're old? No one cares. What relevance does that have with the subject besides the fact really old people messed up the NCAA because they refused to adapt??
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
1784 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 6:24 pm to
Higher education wasn’t worth much back in the day either, tuition used to be dirt cheap. I don’t get your angle. You’re saying players should’ve been grateful they were getting below minimum wage and limited earning opportunity

Personally I think the value of out of state tuition, food, room and board, and other angles like tutoring/eased acceptance requirements is super valuable for most players but underpayment for guys like Bryce. Arguably with the tax free aspect you can say they’re getting compensated upwards of 60K for just sitting on the bench. However it’s stupid to say they can’t do something normal like advertisements, sell shirts with their brand on it, or monetize their YouTube channel. If you had that opportunity and brand value, you would absolutely be livid you can’t do anything with it.

I also think they should be compensated in some form for their jerseys being sold. Derrick Henry sold thousands of #2 jerseys and he absolutely should’ve gotten a cut of those sales.
This post was edited on 5/18/24 at 6:30 pm
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10112 posts
Posted on 5/19/24 at 9:05 am to
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athletes being paid are not put on scholarship. Their tuition, meal plan, and housing is paid for out of the NIL deals.


Sounds like UF is already using my idea with Cormani McClain.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51060 posts
Posted on 5/19/24 at 9:49 pm to
Title 9 already killed multiple men's collegiate sports. Why not the rest of them too?
Posted by CamAquatic
Member since Jan 2023
50 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:49 pm to
Imagine thinking players are spoiled for wanting a cut of the pie in a billion dollar organization that they do the extremely demanding and health risking labor for.
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
Member since Apr 2024
39 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 6:16 pm to
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Imagine thinking players are spoiled for wanting a cut of the pie in a billion dollar organization that they do the extremely demanding and health risking labor for.


Imagine thinking players weren't already receiving a "cut of the pie" with free healthcare, room and board, scholarship, gym access, meals, therapy, etc. while every other student on campus is living off ramen and working multiple jobs and side hustles just to make rent... not to mention they'll be in debt for the next 20 years. I bet those students would gladly play a sport if it meant a 100% free ride. You have to be a boomer because you clearly don't understand just how financially difficult it is on the average student and their family these days.

Imagine thinking NIL will benefit all programs instead of only the rich ones.

I'll never understand why it's okay to shite on a pro baseball player for leaving Oakland for the Yankees but not okay to shite on Isiah Bond for leaving Bama for Texas...

Paying players is fine. But they should pick up the tab with all that NIL cash rather than the university, just in case they decide to jump ship when Texas dangles a Lambo in their face. Otherwise, that's money well wasted on the university's behalf as well as all the ignorant fans who contribute their hard earned money to our NIL collective.

And here's another fun fact, if you distributed that one billion dollars equally among ONLY the student athletes, just the student athletes, that would equal roughly a whopping $1,900 per athlete...
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 6:25 pm
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10112 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 7:14 pm to
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Imagine thinking players weren't already receiving a "cut of the pie" with free healthcare, room and board, scholarship, gym access, meals, therapy, etc. while every other student on campus is living off ramen and working multiple jobs and side hustles just to make rent... not to mention they'll be in debt for the next 20 years. I bet those students would gladly play a sport if it meant a 100% free ride. You have to be a boomer because you clearly don't understand just how financially difficult it is on the average student and their family these days.


Imagine thinking a regular student has the same value as a star football or basketball player. This isn’t a sport anymore, it’s a business. No one is paying to watch intramurals.


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Imagine thinking NIL will benefit all programs instead of only the rich ones.


Anyone that thinks schools without big time donors are not going to be negatively impacted by the are extremely naive. There are programs that will go under and that’s what happens when the subsidized have to pay for themselves.

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I'll never understand why it's okay to shite on a pro baseball player for leaving Oakland for the Yankees but not okay to shite on Isiah Bond for leaving Bama for Texas...


I see no reason you shouldn’t be able to shite on Bond or Downs for their decision to chase money.

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Paying players is fine. But they should pick up the tab with all that NIL cash rather than the university, just in case they decide to jump ship when Texas dangles a Lambo in their face.


I think I know what you’re trying to say and this is why schools and players need to have contracts with buyouts.

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And here's another fun fact, if you distributed that one billion dollars equally among ONLY the student athletes, just the student athletes, that would equal roughly a whopping $1,900 per athlete...


I assume you mean all sports, and that’s why some sports will be cut or only be club teams.
Posted by TomFromBama
Lower Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
38 posts
Posted on 5/23/24 at 9:04 pm to
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I’ve got a better idea. Don’t pay them anything but a chance to earn a higher education. Until the adults of this country put these children in their place, all these entitled spoiled rotten children will never value education, institutions of higher learning or any type of respect for their self or others. Call me what you will, but I’d rather see the university recruit the type of student athlete that’s a student first and an athlete second. Because this shite we’re seeing now is the downfall of the universities and college athletics


So - I NEVER thought I’d say this; and it will never happen; but this “sport” has become such a sheet-show now; I’d actually support Alabama dropping NIL football and replacing it with Div-III or even NAIA, and just make it an “amateur” sport again.

And I’m NOT so naive to think it would ever happen!!!! - no way our greedy Alma-mater would walk away from perhaps $50-100 mill a year.

But Coach Saban was right - CFB as we’ve known it is OVER and it’s never coming back. And honestly, ever since Coach announced his retirement, AND publicly stated WHY he retired, I’ve become almost ambivalent; and for much the same reasons that I lost interest in all the pro-sports decades ago. :-(
Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
1588 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 10:15 am to
Depends on what age you call old, mid 50’s maybe ancient to you. And the younger generation always blames the older generation for fricking things up.

I felt the same way when I was a younger man, thought I knew everything. But I found out them old frickers was pretty much right about life as I got older. You will to once you mature a little bit more
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