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At what level would you place Clark on a starting 5 at the men's level?

Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:39 am
Posted by Saunson69
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:39 am
To preface, in another sport, the USWNT, #1 woman's soccer team in the world, played an under 15 boys Dallas club and lost 5-2. Basically best women in the world lost to 14 year old boys solely from the Dallas metro by a fairly large margin. I think they lost 7-2 another year too, so happened twice.

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Now I'm curious, where would you place Clark to be good enough on a male team to make a starting 5? Do you think she would make a starting 5 on a Louisiana high school like Edna Karr, Rummel, Byrd, STM, U High? Below that? A freshman squad for those type schools? I personally do not feel she'd make a Juco level team.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 9:45 am
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28699 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:44 am to
She can pass and shoot with anyone. The problem is physically she doesn’t have the speed or size to compete against grown men.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:44 am to
Please stop
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:50 am to
quote:

At what level would you place Clark on a starting 5 at the men's level?

in a game of horse.. she would be one of my top picks.. other than that, she would get destroyed on the defensive side.and smothered on the offensive side

but in a game of horse.. she would be hard to beat
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5843 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:56 am to
This is exactly why you can’t have dudes winning women’s championships because they decided they are women now….
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:57 am to
quote:

Now I'm curious, where would you place Clark to be good enough on a male team to make a starting 5? Do you think she would make a starting 5 on a Louisiana high school like Edna Karr, Rummel, Byrd, STM, U High? Below that? A freshman squad for those type schools? I personally do not feel she'd make a Juco level team.


She would not start for any men's team unless the sole focus is to sell tickets and generate interest due to the novelty of it.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 9:57 am
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles/USC Trojans fan/alum
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:01 am to
A good high school boy's BB team would beat both South Carolina and Iowa.

People are forgetting that women's BB rules are a bit different from the men's....in addition, the size of the women's basketball is significantly smaller than the basketball used in men's BB (they have smaller hands).

It would be quite embarrassing for the women to see a college women's BB team go up against a good high school boy's team. That's no joke.

P.S......a men's BB team would DEMOLISH any women's pro BB team, as well. Women's coordination skills aren't nearly that of the men...same for college women vs. high school boys.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 11:03 am
Posted by Jster15
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:06 am to
She is very, very good. But she can’t compete physically with a Div 1 men’s team.(And this the argument against trans players) The number of open three point shots, or inside drives to the basket would be a tiny fraction against collegiate men as is is against women. Now what would be interesting, as I’ve posted before, is a game of horse against the top collegiate men’s player.
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:08 am to
quote:

To preface, in another sport, the USWNT, #1 woman's soccer team in the world, played an under 15 boys Dallas club and lost 5-2. Basically best women in the world lost to 14 year old boys solely from the Dallas metro by a fairly large margin. I think they lost 7-2 another year too, so happened twice.


People trot this thing out constantly as some sort of be all end all proof about how female athletes aren't very good.

However, in sports we can actually measure... like track and field or swimming and the like. World class female athletes are roughly the equivalent of really good (sub elite) high school boys.


Now of course, in a sport like basketball... size and strength matter a bit more than they might in time measured sports.

So ultimately, I think it is likely fair to say that Caitlen Clark could start at guard for a random high school boys team. Probably not a really good one... but for an average one with average guards.
Posted by Mr Roboto
Rural Mississippi
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:10 am to
She would be competitive on a D3 Men’s college team
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
2842 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:23 am to
In today's game, I think she would be a solid starter for a Class 7A high school, an all-region player at a medium-sized high school and a legend in the podunk private school associations.
Posted by Jster15
Member since Aug 2019
2241 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 11:07 am to
Lol…can you imagine a collegiate Shaq or Charles Barkley using that big fat arse backing up move they used to foul other teams, against Clark or any other woman’s team?
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 11:12 am
Posted by grich31
Youngsville, La
Member since May 2008
1231 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 11:11 am to
I guess u didn’t watch her get guarded up pretty good by UConn and SC defenders, she would struggle on a men’s team plain and simple
Posted by jfootball14
Member since Nov 2013
1553 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 11:11 am to
Idk but she would beat all fat boomers on this board
Posted by theballguy
Colorado Springs, CO
Member since Oct 2011
3059 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 11:14 am to
If we had a serious amateur team of men in Colorado Springs, she'd be in the starting 5 easily. In Denver or Atlanta? Probably not. That's about it. She couldn't play with even a semi-pro team. Agree she probably would not crack a juco level team lineup.

For women, she is the GOAT for now. I'd watch her play anyday. She's a great female player. No one can ever deny that.

The disparity really is that much.
Posted by PanhandleSlim
Member since Mar 2020
425 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 11:32 am to
She would struggle to play at the D3 mens level
Posted by Loganville Vols
Loganville Georgia
Member since Feb 2021
878 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 11:49 am to
Watergirl
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
5064 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 11:50 am to
quote:

At what level would you place Clark on a starting 5 at the men's level?


D2 maybe
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
7032 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 12:00 pm to
Most every school uses a group of guys to practice with the team. Dawn was asked about not losing and that being a concern because the team hadn't dealt with it. She said they lose everyday in practice to the highlighters.

So as for Clark, I think she would struggle to get open off the dribble. Off screening action she might get open a few times and knock down a few tough shots, or if she was left in the corner.


Defensively she would be a huge liability...she doesn't play it period. In fact I don't know that he game will be well received in the pro's to start with because he doesn't play defense at all. At that level she is going to get tore up if she allows open shots
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10439 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 1:14 pm to
She'd be a 4 or 5 on any of the top 25 men's teams, probably move to a 3 in the NBA.
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