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re: Respect for Saban as a coach, but he's a hypocrite when it comes to pay for play!
Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:25 pm to SwampyWaters
Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:25 pm to SwampyWaters
It's the epitome of hypocrisy for someone who was making north of TEN MILLION dollars a year to lecture us about paying student athletes. 
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:53 pm to au7342
Luther Davis was an agent working for the NFL. UA had no dealings or knowledge of the payments to Fluker. Can’t blame Saban or UA for that. By the Robinson link, TN and MS State each had 2 athletes involved, so they are guilty too?
The Albert Means case occurred in 2002 and happened 5 years before Saban arrived. Can really link him to that.
And I completely trust your “personal experience” from the 70’s when every university was complicit in booster handshakes.
Speaking of leaving marks, Larry Blakeny, and Eric Ramsey is still a pretty large scar on Pat Dye’s legacy.
The Albert Means case occurred in 2002 and happened 5 years before Saban arrived. Can really link him to that.
And I completely trust your “personal experience” from the 70’s when every university was complicit in booster handshakes.
Speaking of leaving marks, Larry Blakeny, and Eric Ramsey is still a pretty large scar on Pat Dye’s legacy.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 7:10 pm to Tuscaloosa
lol, you can't be serious.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 7:20 pm to llfshoals
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The problem is unlimited transfers, which one of the things he pointed out was how the likelihood of them graduating goes down about 20% each time they do
But who cares if they graduate? They don’t. They are pursuing playing the game and subsequent paydays. The schools just want to win baby.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 7:34 pm to SwampyWaters
That sound bite is one of the saddest things I’ve ever seen in sports. They’ve ruined amateur athletics
Posted on 3/14/24 at 8:09 pm to SwampyWaters
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have tremendous respect for him as a coach, but to go before Congress and rail against NIL
He said he doesn’t have issues with players getting paid when they earn it. Giving recruits big time NIL deals isn’t sustainable and he is correct. I have no issue on his take.
Players that sign with companies for sponsorship is what NIL is about. Collectives setting up NIL deals for players basically to do nothing isn’t.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 3/14/24 at 8:30 pm to REV-S
quote:is the Right Reverend Hugh Freeze holding baptism’s at the lake this weekend?
I don’t have any respect for him at all, the hypocrite.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 8:37 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Prove it.
And yet still nothing. And will never be anything.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:05 pm to Strokers Ace
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It's the epitome of hypocrisy for someone who was making north of TEN MILLION dollars a year to lecture us about paying student athletes.
$15,000,000 staffs to lead an extracurricular activity at an institute of higher learning doesn't really jive with the spirit of college sports or amateurism either - but coaches sure as hell don't have a problem with that.
It is a lot easier to sympathize with Johnny Fivestar when his coaches are making millions off his back, would recruit a better player to replace him in a heartbeat if his play were subpar, and would leave him and the rest of the team high and dry for another dollar at any time.
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isn’t sustainable
I keep seeing this term. "NIL is not sustainable!" "The transfer portal is unsustainable!"
Alabama, Georgia, LSU, etc., will all have 85+ players next year, and millions of people are still going to watch all the games. And the new playoff system will be a huge draw.
There will be a few hurt feelings over players transferring out, and fans realizing players are more concerned about money than jumping on a grenade for their program. But in the end, there will still be exciting and profitable games being played.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:19 pm to Tuscaloosa
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You people are broken…
Says TuscAUloosa as he posts over and over again about Auburn. More like you are a broken record……
Posted on 3/14/24 at 10:50 pm to Tuscaloosa
Incoming “Surviving Nick Saban” documentary.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 11:34 pm to SwampyWaters
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he had no problem paying for players all those years at Alabama
If you think Saban ever personally paid a player then you are stupid and have no idea how things work.
It would do nothing but undermine all of his authority and put his entire career in the hands of 85 different college kids year after year. Any of them could at any time spill the beans and end his career and the success of the football program.
How is a coach in that position going to put any authority on them? Much less the kind of authority and control Saban demanded from them? How is it possible that in all the years he was a coach, not a single recruit ever did such a thing?
Because that's not how it fricking works, that's why.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 11:40 pm to Globetrotter747
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Alabama, Georgia, LSU, etc., will all have 85+ players next year, and millions of people are still going to watch all the games. And the new playoff system will be a huge draw.
Yeah, that's the EXACT same kind of shite Nascar said when they added the playoffs and started doing everything for money rather than preserving what made the sport great and drew in all the existing fans to being with.
All the new fans were going to make up for the loss of the "few" that would quit watching. The "show" itself was going to be a major draw and it was going to be bigger than the NFL.
They sold out for cookie cutter tracks in "bigger markets". Cars with hard tires that pretty boy rookies could compete and make commercials for the brands. They added the "playoffs" to create more drama. They made it a "team sport" by pretending the people who change the tires are like the lineman of the sport.
And now they struggle to get people to the tracks. They keep adding more and more gimmicks to make it better, but they drove the fans away because they destroyed the very things that drew them in.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 4:55 am to 3down10
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Yeah, that's the EXACT same kind of shite Nascar said when they added the playoffs and started doing everything for money rather than preserving what made the sport great and drew in all the existing fans to being with.
NASCAR isn’t college football. People will watch.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 7:06 am to SwampyWaters
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what Rush Propst said a couple of years ago about Saban.
This is hilarious that you believe a guy that had a secret family wouldn't lie about Saban. If you believe a word Rush Propst says, you have a bigger problem than thinking Saban paid players.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 7:15 am to Tuscaloosa
quote:yall said a lot of shite about Cam for a long time.
Who the frick said anything about Cam?
Posted on 3/15/24 at 7:19 am to Yewkindewit
quote:Given the percentage of how few players go to the NFL, the players absolutely should care. As was said in another post by someone, they going to be broke very quickly with no skills or education.
But who cares if they graduate? They don’t. They are pursuing playing the game and subsequent paydays. The schools just want to win baby.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 7:23 am to Tuscaloosa
These threads show how stupid some of the posters in this forum are.
Once again, if Saban says anything, it is immediately attacked just because Saban said it.
Once again, if Saban says anything, it is immediately attacked just because Saban said it.
This post was edited on 3/15/24 at 7:23 am
Posted on 3/15/24 at 7:25 am to lsufan1971
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He said he doesn’t have issues with players getting paid when they earn it. Giving recruits big time NIL deals isn’t sustainable and he is correct. I have no issue on his take.
Players that sign with companies for sponsorship is what NIL is about. Collectives setting up NIL deals for players basically to do nothing isn’t.
Unbelievable!! An LSU fan that actually can comprehend what Saban is saying without lumping in the whole "hypocrite" mantra. Kudos to you!!
Posted on 3/15/24 at 7:31 am to Bham4Tide
These threads show how stupid some of the posters in this forum are.
Once again, if Saban says anything, it is immediately worshipped just because Saban said it.
Once again, if Saban says anything, it is immediately worshipped just because Saban said it.
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