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re: I did the Caitlin Clark/Pistol Pete math

Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:07 am to
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:07 am to
I have had the pleasure of watching both play and Clark is good, but she is no where close to Pistol Pete.
Posted by Linda Barrett
Moscow State University
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:08 am to
I'm reporting you again
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:39 am to
quote:

Clark is going to own the record

and has had far and away a better career.



Can you get any stoopider?

I get the troll, but there has to be at least a smidgin of truth in a troll.


Picture The Pistol playing against girls.


Picture her playing against men.


Don’t be so stoopid
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
5479 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:40 am to
I agree but the great irony here is that lsu fans are always bragging about girls college basketball when NOBODY else gives a shite. Looks like some good karma to me
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/2/24 at 10:42 am to
I'd rather see Pistol play while having a 3pt line and Clark playing while not. Then where does the record fall?
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
2244 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

ole Ms. Clark


I’ve been told this is racist.
Posted by Lolathon234
Texas
Member since Oct 2022
210 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 7:12 am to
It's time to kill this narrative. Pete Maravich was a volume chucker who was a detriment to his own team in college. He put up monstrous numbers on subpar efficiency. The name of the game in basketball is scoring more efficiently than your opponent. Maravich was not only less efficient than his opponents, his shooting % was vastly inferior to his own teammates. And he only got away with it because his dad was his coach and gave him the ultimate green light

FG% by year
67-68
Maravich .423
his teammates .520
LSU opponents .459

68-69
Maravich .444
his teammates .516
LSU opponents .451

69-70
Maravich .447
his teammates .515
LSU opponents .447

This post was edited on 3/3/24 at 7:20 am
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
4896 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 7:23 am to
quote:

Clark is going to own the record and has had far and away a better career.

She will hold the record you are correct. For women’s basketball which is a tremendous accomplishment. Comparing men’s and women’s basketball is about the same as comparing Lebron’s 40,000 points to the all time touchdown record. Completely different sports.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 3/3/24 at 10:21 am to
194 down votes.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26993 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 10:28 am to
quote:

There is no “equate.”

Clark is going to own the record and has had far and away a better career.



Not even remotely true.

You would also have to take away all of Clark's points from the B1G tournaments, as those didn't exist. Also, any NCAA tournament games in years that Iowa wasn't the B1G champion, as only conference champions went to the NCAA tournament when Pete played.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26993 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Maravich was not only less efficient than his opponents, his shooting % was vastly inferior to his own teammates.


Before you start yapping like a complete fricktard, why don't you go back and see how many assists he had to those teammates. Over 6 pg his senior year.
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22092 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 10:36 am to
quote:

I did the Caitlin Clark/Pistol Pete math


Nerd
This post was edited on 3/3/24 at 10:40 am
Posted by Lolathon234
Texas
Member since Oct 2022
210 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 11:18 am to
Because it's already factored into their shooting percentage. And either way his own shoooting percentage is worse than the opponents and he took >50% of LSU's FGA.

Let's just look at his first year and assume both teams attempt 50 FG aka offensive rebounding and turnovers are equal

Maravich attempted 52.8% of his teams shots

Maravich points scored .529 * 50 * 2 points per made shot * .423(shooting perecentage)= 22.38 points
Rest of LSU (1-.529) * 50 * 2 * .523 = 24.63 points
total LSU points = 22.38 + 24.63 = 47.01 points

If Maravich had attempted all 50 by himself = 50*2*.423 = 42.3 points


Opponents 50 * 2 * .459 = 45.9 points

If a player is shooting lower than the opponent by percentage, on average every shot he takes is a net loss for his own team

Maravich took over 50% of their shots. And the guy only averaged 5 assists per game for his career
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26993 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 11:47 am to
quote:

Maravich took over 50% of their shots. And the guy only averaged 5 assists per game for his career



I just figured it out, kid. Some of us in this thread actually watched him play. Others only have read about him.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19360 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 11:49 am to
Funny how such Hall of Fame NBA players continue to sing Pete's praises & why he was voted into the Top 50 players in NBA history. Bob Cousey, James Worthy, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Dominique Wilkens, Karl Malone, Jery West, Elgin Baylor, Kevin McHale, etc etc etc have all told stories about Pete's greatness. Former HOF coaches, Rupp, Auerbach, Tommy Heinson, Phil Jackson, etc etc etc have all raved about him. And there is you. As for the records themselves, the NCAA has come out & said they keep 2 sets of records, those relating to female players & those relating to male players. "There is no one record for both sexes".
Posted by Hot_in_the_box
Rudy Abbott Field at Jim Case Stadi
Member since Jun 2023
1960 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 12:17 pm to
Clark > Pete
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15406 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 12:35 pm to
Nice response thread
Posted by Lolathon234
Texas
Member since Oct 2022
210 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 12:39 pm to
I never said Maravich wasn't skilled, he is one of the most skilled basketball players in history(particularly relative to his era). But his style of play at LSU wasn't conducive to winning basketball. I'm assuming his dad decided to give him free reign in preparation for the NBA/ABA and the LSU AD went with it as he put LSU basketball on the map and made the program a ton of revenue. But from a pure basketball standpoint, he should have never been attempting 35+ FG on sub 45% shooting with teammates shooting >50%. That's bad basketball
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
12139 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

There is no “equate.” Clark is going to own the record and has had far and away a better career. Wail and whine all you want.



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