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Curious as to what makes bama fans so confident that deboer is the guy?
Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:08 am
Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:08 am
And not concerned what the "new bama fans" think, but those that were bama fans pre-saban.
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Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:09 am to SouthernInsanity
Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:11 am to SouthernInsanity
Don't judge their entire fanbase by this message board. Their real fans know they fricked.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:12 am to SouthernInsanity
He's won everywhere he's been and now is at a top tier program with all the resources in the world.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:17 am to SouthernInsanity
What other choice do they have?
Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:28 am to SouthernInsanity
quote:I got back to the early Bryant days.
And not concerned what the "new bama fans" think, but those that were bama fans pre-saban.
DeBoer is a top 5 coach in the game currently. Hard to argue against that. Smart, Sarkesian weren’t leaving no matter what, so that leaves who?
Lanning, no matter what is said I think was at least discussed, and he decided to stay put.
I certainly wouldn’t put Day as a top 5 coach but some do. I could probably win 9 games at Ohio State with their schedule year in and year out.
So that leaves who? DeBoer has won everywhere he’s been, and won a lot of games he didn’t have the best roster. I’m looking forward to seeing what he can accomplish when he does have the best roster.
He’s not the GOAT, but nobody else in the game is either.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 9:53 am to SouthernInsanity
Two reasons.
First, as mentioned earlier, Deboer has won everywhere he has been. This was not the case with Perkins, Curry, Shula, Dubose, Francione or even Stallings.
Perkins had four head coaching jobs. Alabama was the only one he had an overall winning record at going 32-15-1 in four seasons. Outside of Alabama, he only had one winning season out of his other nine as a head coach..
Bill Curry also had four head coaching jobs. Again, Alabama was the only school he had an overall winning record at. He arrived from Georgia Tech with a losing record of 31-43-4. At Alabama he went 26-10. Afterwards at Kentucky he went 26-52 and at Georgia State 10-23.
Mike Shula’s only head coaching job was Alabama. While wins were later vacated, he went 26-23. No one has given him another head coaching opportunity.
Dubose was a good coordinator. But Alabama was his only FBS head coaching job. He went 24-23. After being fired at Alabama he coached at the Division III and high school level.
Stallings had two head coaching jobs. Coming from Texas A&M his record was 27-45-1. At Alabama he went 70-16-1.
Five of the six coaches that Alabama had between Bryant and Saban that coached a game never even had an overall winning record anywhere but Alabama.
Francione was a little better. He went 33-36 at New Mexico, 25-10 at TCU, 17-8 at Alabama, 32-28 at Texas A&M, and 39-43 at Texas State. He was a middle of the road coach and no one can make the argument that Francione was a great coach.
Alabama used to think they could plug anyone with Alabama ties; one of Bear’s boys or a former player/assistant; into the job and they would win. And for the most part they did. But not at an elite level. The reason is they just weren’t good coaches. Yet they still managed to win at Alabama.
Deboer seems to be a really good coach. So, if shitty coaches that can’t even manage to get jobs after Alabama can win 10 games and the SEC, Alabama fans are very hopeful that a good coach with a winning resume will have even more success.
Second, Alabama fans look at how LSU has managed to sustain their success post Saban. As LSU fans love to remind us, they even won national championships with Miles and Orgeron. None of that would have happened if Saban hadn’t first laid the foundation.
So, those two reasons are why Alabama fans feel very optimistic.
First, as mentioned earlier, Deboer has won everywhere he has been. This was not the case with Perkins, Curry, Shula, Dubose, Francione or even Stallings.
Perkins had four head coaching jobs. Alabama was the only one he had an overall winning record at going 32-15-1 in four seasons. Outside of Alabama, he only had one winning season out of his other nine as a head coach..
Bill Curry also had four head coaching jobs. Again, Alabama was the only school he had an overall winning record at. He arrived from Georgia Tech with a losing record of 31-43-4. At Alabama he went 26-10. Afterwards at Kentucky he went 26-52 and at Georgia State 10-23.
Mike Shula’s only head coaching job was Alabama. While wins were later vacated, he went 26-23. No one has given him another head coaching opportunity.
Dubose was a good coordinator. But Alabama was his only FBS head coaching job. He went 24-23. After being fired at Alabama he coached at the Division III and high school level.
Stallings had two head coaching jobs. Coming from Texas A&M his record was 27-45-1. At Alabama he went 70-16-1.
Five of the six coaches that Alabama had between Bryant and Saban that coached a game never even had an overall winning record anywhere but Alabama.
Francione was a little better. He went 33-36 at New Mexico, 25-10 at TCU, 17-8 at Alabama, 32-28 at Texas A&M, and 39-43 at Texas State. He was a middle of the road coach and no one can make the argument that Francione was a great coach.
Alabama used to think they could plug anyone with Alabama ties; one of Bear’s boys or a former player/assistant; into the job and they would win. And for the most part they did. But not at an elite level. The reason is they just weren’t good coaches. Yet they still managed to win at Alabama.
Deboer seems to be a really good coach. So, if shitty coaches that can’t even manage to get jobs after Alabama can win 10 games and the SEC, Alabama fans are very hopeful that a good coach with a winning resume will have even more success.
Second, Alabama fans look at how LSU has managed to sustain their success post Saban. As LSU fans love to remind us, they even won national championships with Miles and Orgeron. None of that would have happened if Saban hadn’t first laid the foundation.
So, those two reasons are why Alabama fans feel very optimistic.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 10:00 am to SouthernInsanity
Well they won’t deny it lol
Posted on 2/5/24 at 10:05 am to SouthernInsanity
What choice do they have? They can either think he will match or better Saban, unlikely, be down in the mouth and about to slit their wrist, un healthy, take a wait and see attitude, un-interesting or they can take the approach many are taking and say he is the perfect candidate and who they wanted all along, very troll worthy. Given that about 99.9% of the messages and comments on these boards are troll attempts they really have no choice but to take the last route.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 10:07 am to SouthernInsanity
Posted on 2/5/24 at 10:07 am to SouthernInsanity
Not confident in that, really. Like what I've seen so far in the TBD areas of his profile (recruiting effort, defensive hires), but nobody will know if he's "the guy" for a few years.
We know he can coach and develop. We'll see if he can recruit and grind in this league. He's already shown he understands the effort and commitment it takes to recruit here, though, which is good to see. But results are TBD.
We know he can coach and develop. We'll see if he can recruit and grind in this league. He's already shown he understands the effort and commitment it takes to recruit here, though, which is good to see. But results are TBD.
This post was edited on 2/5/24 at 10:09 am
Posted on 2/5/24 at 10:32 am to SouthernInsanity
quote:
Curious as to what makes bama fans so confident that deboer is the guy?
Your fanbase is excited about a dude who averages 3.5 losses a year.
We're excited about a guy that just went 14-1 and made it to the national championship game.
But we're the delusional ones.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 10:53 am to SouthernInsanity
The guy hasn't coached a down of football in the SEC but the local gumps have convinced themselves he will just pick up where he tGOAT left off. This board is going to be better than ever over the next few years if any of them stick around. 
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:06 am to SouthernInsanity
Not enough downvotes.... so bama fans have left the SECR and they know, deboer isn't more than a 3-4yr guy.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 11:43 am to SouthernInsanity
We're -fans-
That is short for fanatic. And we're among the best fan bases in the country. Yes, I know. Many such fanbases in the SEC.
Our job is to support no matter the case, even during phases that are understandably frustrating.
We lost saban... he couldn't coach forever. What did you want us to do? Stop being fans and stop having positive energy towards our new coach? There's plenty of reason Deboer got the job. We are simply agreeing with our athletics department until further notice...
Bama fans can get pissed at coaches, don't doubt that. But we'll give this guy some time to establish his system here.
When Saban moved into town we were immediately sternly taught to have realistic expectations over and over by him. That lesson has not been forgotten.
That is short for fanatic. And we're among the best fan bases in the country. Yes, I know. Many such fanbases in the SEC.
Our job is to support no matter the case, even during phases that are understandably frustrating.
We lost saban... he couldn't coach forever. What did you want us to do? Stop being fans and stop having positive energy towards our new coach? There's plenty of reason Deboer got the job. We are simply agreeing with our athletics department until further notice...
Bama fans can get pissed at coaches, don't doubt that. But we'll give this guy some time to establish his system here.
When Saban moved into town we were immediately sternly taught to have realistic expectations over and over by him. That lesson has not been forgotten.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 12:05 pm to SouthernInsanity
Him not being a good ole boy alone is a positive. I'm prejudiced against southern coaches. Big problem with Bama post-bryant was this obsession of hiring a Bear guy, which snowballed with Dubose into big problems.
Posted on 2/5/24 at 12:58 pm to SouthernInsanity
Has this not been discussed ad nauseum? Surely yall will eventually get tired of trolling this.
At some point...the games gotta be played and we all can see for ourselves
At some point...the games gotta be played and we all can see for ourselves
This post was edited on 2/5/24 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 2/5/24 at 1:12 pm to SouthernInsanity
I'm not "so" confident he is the guy.
I am confident in his X's & O's.
He has said the right things, and I believe he can keep it rollin'. Now, can he keep it on track over a decade, I guess we will see as there is not much data on that. He reminds me of Urban with a better heart, where he succeeds fast with a team.
Recruiting is TBD - and this is where we'll see if his system is sustainable.
Tigers
I am confident in his X's & O's.
He has said the right things, and I believe he can keep it rollin'. Now, can he keep it on track over a decade, I guess we will see as there is not much data on that. He reminds me of Urban with a better heart, where he succeeds fast with a team.
Recruiting is TBD - and this is where we'll see if his system is sustainable.
Tigers
Posted on 2/5/24 at 1:30 pm to SouthernInsanity
Overconfidence
Posted on 2/5/24 at 1:31 pm to SouthernInsanity
Because, being Bama, they can’t admit that this isn’t a stellar hire.
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