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re: Are people really pretending Deboer is a bad hire?
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:07 pm to LSU Patrick
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:07 pm to LSU Patrick
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Do you think he is one of the current 10 best coaches in D1?
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:08 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
quote:Correct. Kelly has said LSU is his last job.
i think there's an argument to be made that only 1 person out there is a better hire and that person wasn't available.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:09 pm to RebelTheBear
quote:He's a great hire...for a 5th choice.
Are people really pretending Deboer is a bad hire?
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:09 pm to saintslsupels
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That’s the exact same thing Ed Orgereon did at lsu in 2018
Ed lost to Alabama 29-0, in Baton Rouge, in 2018.
They aren't even comparable.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:09 pm to paperwasp
Kelly #3? Not even close. Defunct list
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:10 pm to RebelTheBear
No coach walking the planet is gonna be able to follow Saban and succeed. The laws of physics won't allow it. He'll flop...it'll take them about 10 years and 3 more coaches to get back to where they were. Write that down...
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:10 pm to RebelTheBear
It's a good hire.
But this young man is going to feel pressure like he's never felt before. A guy can work in relative anonymity in Seattle. Tuscaloosa is a whole different game...he won't be able to pop a squat without fans & media discussing it.
But yeah...it's a darn good hire.
But this young man is going to feel pressure like he's never felt before. A guy can work in relative anonymity in Seattle. Tuscaloosa is a whole different game...he won't be able to pop a squat without fans & media discussing it.
But yeah...it's a darn good hire.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:12 pm to RebelTheBear
We don’t know if he can recruit at the same clip. He took a team of overachieving 3 stars and beat tu (not surprising), but lost to Michigan who had a talent advantage. But if he retains the talent Bama already has, he will do good. It depends if he can keep his stars out of the portal during the 30 day windows. A lot of position coaches are about to be let go.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:12 pm to Topwater Trout
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From the PAC12...very overrated conference
This is such a lame point.
He beat his peer group. What part of that do you not get?
He now has all the benefits and advantages that Bama offers.
It’s a great hire.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:13 pm to TideSaint
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Ed lost to Alabama 29-0, in Baton Rouge, in 2018.
They aren't even comparable.
I would agree.
Both of DeBoer's losses were to unranked teams.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:16 pm to RebelTheBear
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What about Utah this year?
They sucked
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Oregon a third time in 2022?
like i said earlier i don't think Oregon was that good...yeh they beat up on a weak PAC12 schedule and should have beat UW first game this year
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Texas a second time in 2022?
good win in playoffs...last year Texas wasn't all that
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:17 pm to RebelTheBear
I think it's a good hire, especially considering he's following Saban.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:18 pm to Old Money
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Let the board troll. Live a little…
When all is said and done, that's all it is.
Hell, I teased LSU about Brian Kelly, but in all honesty he was a very good hire (fake Southern accents and questionable dance routines not withstanding).
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:20 pm to Monsieur Morrel
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But this young man is going to feel pressure like he's never felt before. A guy can work in relative anonymity in Seattle. Tuscaloosa is a whole different game...he won't be able to pop a squat without fans & media discussing it.
But yeah...it's a darn good hire.
While true, there's no way in today's media age that anyone would go into a job like the Alabama HC position not knowing that's part of it.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:22 pm to paperwasp
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Crazy that, if he signs on at Alabama, that will have #1, #3, #4, #7, and #9 all in the SEC.
Reminds me of the insane coaching list we had in the SEC in the 2008-2013 years with Saban, Urban, and Spurrier among those coaching at the time.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:22 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Well, everyone else said no. This was the best they could do.
He'll be gone in three years, so it's not a big deal anyway. And he'll have saban looking over his shoulder to tell him when he does something stupid.
All is well.
He'll be gone in three years, so it's not a big deal anyway. And he'll have saban looking over his shoulder to tell him when he does something stupid.
All is well.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:22 pm to RebelTheBear
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Just interesting to see opposing fans hinge on every decision Alabama makes
We’re used to it.
It’s mostly Little Bro and the piss colored purple tigers though…you can smell the fear in every post they make.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:26 pm to RebelTheBear
He may turn out to be an amazing fit at Bama and has had success. Saying he's a homerun or bust is ludicrous at this point.
At the minimum, it's a risky hire. Certainly not a guy on ANYONE'S list of possibile replacement for Saban a week ago. We saw the culture mismatch with Harsin.
At the minimum, it's a risky hire. Certainly not a guy on ANYONE'S list of possibile replacement for Saban a week ago. We saw the culture mismatch with Harsin.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:27 pm to ReversePiggie
It's only a "risky" hire if you think they could have (or should have) gotten Dabo or Smart.
It's about the best they could do. Could totally flop, that's always the case. But not like hiring an FCS coach or something.
It's about the best they could do. Could totally flop, that's always the case. But not like hiring an FCS coach or something.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 2:30 pm to RebelTheBear
He runs a pure Air Raid. That's a boom or bust kinda thing. If you get great QB and WR play and protect that QB it booms. If your QB sucks or has a bad day or you can't protect him, it busts.
One team that I don't think you can run a pure Air Raid against and hope to win is UGA but I don't think they're the only team in the conference that will give a pure Air Raid a very hard time. Washington doesn't like to run the ball. I don't know that that will ever work in the SEC.
That said, I think he's the best available guy out there and a lot better than many could've gotten.
One team that I don't think you can run a pure Air Raid against and hope to win is UGA but I don't think they're the only team in the conference that will give a pure Air Raid a very hard time. Washington doesn't like to run the ball. I don't know that that will ever work in the SEC.
That said, I think he's the best available guy out there and a lot better than many could've gotten.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 2:32 pm
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