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Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:22 am
Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
2126 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:22 am


But...

After reading this article Athletic Subscription it looked like the BIG Ten payout would be around 62-75 million per school before Oregon and Washington announced they would leave. Lots of people were projecting 80-100M but this article points out they weren't factoring in FOX's cut in the BIGten network. So adding on Washington and Oregon I'd guess each school payout would still be around the same figure. Maybe slightly more? So we'll say (65M-78M) for TV.

The SEC had a payout of in 533 million in non cbs revenue in 2021 aka the money made from the SEC network. If we add on the new 300M per year contract with ESPN for game of the week that total comes to 833M per year or 59.5 per school per year. Adding in Texas and OU I would expect would increase this number to about 65ish million per school? Right?

With all that said the BIG TEN does look like they will be making around 10 million more based on what I am seeing which is a pretty big deal. They will probably have first pick at adding a NC, CLemson, FSU, or Notre Dame (if they ever join). Am i missing something or is the SEC slightly losing the expansion battle? With NIL becoming more of a factor this seems dangerous to me. Just some thoughts...
This post was edited on 12/8/23 at 11:24 am
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
43744 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:30 am to
No one indicated I needed to learn math
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42583 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:32 am to
ESPN/SEC will move to a subscription based model and blow the liner model the BIG has out of the water. I'm excited to pay one price and see all of our games.
Posted by MNW
Starkville, MS
Member since Mar 2015
1838 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:41 am to
Big Ten absolutely blew the SEC out of the water with the TV deal, but who wins expansion remains to be seen.

SEC will still have the better programs and way more of them.
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2182 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:44 am to
quote:

The SEC had a payout of in 533 million in non cbs revenue in 2021 aka the money made from the SEC network. If we add on the new 300M per year contract with ESPN for game of the week that total comes to 833M per year or 59.5 per school per year. Adding in Texas and OU I would expect would increase this number to about 65ish million per school? Right?v
Adding OU and Texas will not increase the pro rata number for the other schools during the life of the current contract (which runs through 2034). I haven't checked your numbers, but I will caution you that it's a moving target, as the SEC's numbers under the existing contracts do go up somewhat over time. The contract apparently included a pro rata to clause to ensure that adding teams to the conference would result in compensation paid increasing enough that existing schools would not see their payments go down if new schools were added (and that new schools would be paid at the same rate).
Posted by Emmanuel Goldstein
Member since Jul 2021
1335 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:47 am to
Big 10 schools are going to waste those few extra million on travel costs. The conference used to want contiguous states, but are a mess now.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19281 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:52 am to

What I dislike is they put all their eggs under the ESPN umbrellla. They should have spun off packages of games, one to an OTA network (CBS/NBC/Fox) and another possible streaming option.

It's about getting networks to bid against each other to maximize dollars and the SEC has the best product.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
18121 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:56 am to
When does OK and UT pay their membership dues or have they already?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68882 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 12:04 pm to
FSU is a natural for the SEC.
Posted by 24chevrolet48
Beat Street
Member since Aug 2006
1650 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 12:17 pm to
If I was the SEC, I would Add 4 of the following

1.NC State (Cares about FB, Has a Solid BB program)
2.Duke (Wants to win in FB, Top BB Program)
3.Virgina (State the SEC should be in)
4.UNC (Cares about FB, Has a Great BB History)

Maybe, Clemson
if UNC thinks its too good for the SEC

We added OU and Texas
We don't need No More Big Boys in FB.

We Need to Add to the Basketball Resume'

We are Fine in Baseball either way

This post was edited on 12/8/23 at 12:38 pm
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