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There is NO VOODOO

Posted on 11/26/23 at 9:14 am
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6608 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 9:14 am
The voodoo was a coach who schemed a running game to destroy our run defense and another who didn't make the adjustments. Steele was two steps behind, defensive ends pancaked, linebackers avoiding contact.

And where were Oatis and Kennan while they were running on us? Alot of the time, on the bench.

The voodoo was Jalen Milroe (who I normally love as a QB) making two incredibly stupid decisions by crossing the line of scrimmage and the throwing the ball.

In the first instance, he would probably have picked up the first had he just run.

So Jalen regressed in that he relapsed into a tentative runner. Nine times in that game, Jalen had wide open lanes to run, but hung in the pocket for an extended time.

He had found the sweet spot between hanging in the pocket and taking off and running. Last night he lost it.

We have to face the fact that this was a lousy AUBURN team and needing luck to win isn't about voodoo it about, sadly, a slow, sort of imperceptible decline in this program.

Saban is slowing down. The intensity. The mental acuity ... they are dissipating

But the fact is, there are about 7 teams ranked ahead of us now that have inferior talent but utilize their talent more effectively because they have better coaching.

Bama had more players than you realized.

BAMA HAS AN NFL PLAYER AT EVERY POSITION.

We have lost track of that. We discuss these problems without seeing it.

There is no Voodoo. It's coaching.

One last thing about Milroe. Milroe is an incredible weapon. But it is common knowledge that he wants to be a pure pocket passer. He's probably been told all his life that "they" always try to make black quarterbacks run the ball and "they" want to use his legs at the expense of an NFL career. That "they" question his mental acuity and ability to be an NFL QB.

But the fact is, no one has explained to him that the NFL WANTS A QB with his physical attributes now. It's no longer "be a running quarterback or be an NFL quarterback". Someone needs to explain to him that being an incredible duel threat means being a #1 draft pick, while reluctantly using his physical gifts limits his future.




Posted by bodask42
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2009
2502 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 9:24 am to
We won. Chill.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
29332 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 9:26 am to
Should have gone with more true DL.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
13025 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 9:30 am to
This happens every game at JHS like clockwork. We all knew this was going to be tough, no matter what Auburn's record is.

Had it been in T-Town, Bama wins easily.
Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
4298 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 9:54 am to
quote:

We have to face the fact that this was a lousy AUBURN team and needing luck to win isn't about voodoo it about, sadly, a slow, sort of imperceptible decline in this program.

Saban is slowing down. The intensity. The mental acuity ... they are dissipating


This is what the people who were screaming we'd go 0 for Texas and drop at least 2 if not more of LSU, UT, Ole Miss, and Auburn and finish at best 8-4 but probably worse are reduced to now.

Trying to use a struggle win in a rivalry game where records rarely matter to desperately cling to their prediction that Saban is losing it and going down the Bowden/Paterno road.

Just face it. We could lose by double digits next week in the SEC championship and this would still be one of the best coaching jobs Saban has ever done. But enjoy wallowing in your misery and continue the ridiculous doomsaying.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6608 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:00 am to
Well since we have all the talent in place, I disagree.

We have quality wideouts. We have a quality qb with unlimited potential. We have explosive backs and a offensive line that came in out of shape and has played its way into shape.

On defense, I see eleven future NFL players if we play the right guys.

This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 10:06 am
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16159 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:02 am to
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There is no Voodoo. It's coaching.


There have been 35 meetings since the game went home-and-home in 1989. During that stretch, Auburn has won 5 times in Tuscaloosa or Birmingham. They've won 10 times in Auburn.

In the Tuscaloosa wins, Alabama was the higher ranked team once. In the 10 JHS wins, Alabama was the higher ranked team 6 times with 4 of them being times Alabama was ranked in the top 5. Those upsets happened across 4 different Alabama coaching staffs including two with national championship statues outside BDS.

Call it Voodoo or whatever else you want, but since that time Auburn has brought more intensity to this game in JHS than any other other one they play regardless of location. The fact that Alabama has been able to persevere and still win most of the games in that environment is a testament to the staffs rather than an indictment of them.

Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6608 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:07 am to
Give Michigan our roster and see what happens.

Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
4756 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:11 am to
Give Michigan our schedule and see what happens. Or better yet give us their schedule.
Posted by HighTide_ATL
Member since Aug 2020
2225 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:26 am to
Every week one of you hits the sauce a little too much and has a melt, after a win no less

It’s getting exhausting
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
50990 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:28 am to
quote:

This happens every game at JHS like clockwork. We all knew this was going to be tough, no matter what Auburn's record is.

Yep, during the Saban era we’ve only had one truly dominant win down there, which was 2011. 2015 stayed close but we rode Henry and built a gap late. The rest have been close wins (2009, 2021, and 2023) or losses (2007, 2013, 2017 and 2019).
Posted by EGO3x
Member since Oct 2023
1674 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:34 am to
Alabama playing down to Auburn’s level in that place IS the voodoo.

Take the same teams with the same game plans and put them in Bryant Denny Bama wins easily.

Georgia barely won 27-20 in JH this year…are they slowing down too?
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16159 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:57 am to
quote:

Give Michigan our roster and see what happens.


You act as if Michigan has Arkansas level recruiting classes, which is laughably false. Year in and year out, they rank better than most of the SEC.

With that out of the way, let's look at how Michigan did this year against teams with a pulse in "hostile" environments. They beat Penn State by 9 in a game where they threw 8 passes and had 287 yards of offense and they beat Maryland by 7 in a game where they had 291 yards of total offense and scored 11 defensive points.

Your notion that Michigan is vastly better coached and only held back by some perceived talent gap is easily objectively disproven by their poor performances against teams where they enjoy a large talent advantage.

Further, they've feasted against very bad teams. They've played 3 P5 teams with winning records. All three were close, competitive games Michigan pulled out in the end. Saturday was Alabama's SEVENTH game against a P5 team with a winning record.

So, to wrap it up, "Give Michigan our roster" is hilarious. Their talent isn't bad, it's top two or three in their conference and better than most of the SEC yet when they reach the postseason and face teams of similar or even lesser talent (South Carolina 2017, Florida 2018, TCU 2021), they lose and often badly.

Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6608 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:45 am to
Bama has 18 five stars, 56 four stars and 10 3 stars

The most talented team in the country.

Michigan has 2 five stars, 45 four stars 38 three stars.

The 14th most talented roster.

BAMA AVG. 4.1
Mich AVG. 3.6

This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 11:49 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69804 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:52 am to
quote:

2015 stayed close but we rode Henry and built a gap late.


Very late. It was 22-13 with less than a minute to play when he broke a run to score the final TD. At that point we were just trying to run the clock out.
Posted by ETT2001
Member since Dec 2020
1042 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

The voodoo was a coach who schemed a running game to destroy our run defense and another who didn't make the adjustments. Steele was two steps behind, defensive ends pancaked, linebackers avoiding contact.


Been questioning for years..does Saban put enough emphasis on the Auburn game? Or is something with the Tgiving week and players out of school that throws off the prep?

It is real frustrating Bama never comes out and dominates like it should against the inferior opponent. Meanwhile AU brings a lot more intensity and focus and generally plays their best. We have dominated a few at home (2008, 2012, 2018 and 2020) but the majority of these matchups are too close.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16159 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:03 pm to
Now do the talent levels of the opponents they have faced.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16159 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

does Saban put enough emphasis on the Auburn game?


I posted it somewhere else but what you saw Saturday has happened since the game went home and home in 1989 regardless of who was Bama’s coach.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
8837 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

Saban is slowing down. The intensity. The mental acuity ... they are dissipating


Is this why BAMA almost lost at the barn in 2009?

Some of you motherfrickers are so retarded, you actually want uga to win next week just so you can say "I told you so."
BAMA is on the verge of making the playoff with a win and a loss by Michigan, FSU, or tejas.
Calm down and enjoy. For frick's sake. What team wants to play BAMA? Nobody. What more can you want from your team but to be something nobody wants to play.
You really think Michigan would be favored vs BAMA on a neutral field? Oregon? Washington? FSU?

Get a grip, dude.

Roll Tide Forever.
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
3773 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 1:37 pm to
One of the worst written posts I’ve seen in a while. Say less.
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