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Why doesn’t transitive property work?
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:42 am
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:42 am
Asking for Themetalreb…
ETA: Looking at the first few responses, I need to clarify. I totally get that it doesn’t work. I’m not saying it does. It’s just strange that it doesn’t.
ETA: Looking at the first few responses, I need to clarify. I totally get that it doesn’t work. I’m not saying it does. It’s just strange that it doesn’t.
This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 7:50 am
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Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:44 am to themetalreb
2014 Ole Miss beat Bama by 6.
2014 Bama beat Arkansas by 1.
Transitive property said Rebs should beat Arkansas by more than 1 because they beat Bama who beat Arkansas.
Hogs beat the Rebs 30-0.
2014 Bama beat Arkansas by 1.
Transitive property said Rebs should beat Arkansas by more than 1 because they beat Bama who beat Arkansas.
Hogs beat the Rebs 30-0.
This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 7:45 am
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:45 am to themetalreb
Humans have this weird thing about not being super consistent.
Also some strengths of teams don’t necessarily bear out against certain teams.
Also some strengths of teams don’t necessarily bear out against certain teams.
This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 7:46 am
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:47 am to themetalreb
Florida beat Tennessee
Kentucky beat Florida
Tennessee beat Kentucky
Kentucky beat Florida
Tennessee beat Kentucky
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:53 am to themetalreb
Why doesn’t it work?
Because there are a thousand variables that do not remain consistent week to week
Because there are a thousand variables that do not remain consistent week to week
Posted on 11/3/23 at 8:07 am to themetalreb
Each day is different. If you accomplished x number of tasks today then tomorrow you should be able to do the same but we don’t.
Joe Pendry used to say every game he coached was like the opening game of the season. You don’t know how players will respond this week.
Joe Pendry used to say every game he coached was like the opening game of the season. You don’t know how players will respond this week.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 8:07 am to themetalreb
Posted on 11/3/23 at 8:24 am to themetalreb
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Why doesn’t transitive property work?
The context of each game, variables from weather to player energy/prep/mistakes/successes, and matchups all matter. It is literally called a game of inches for a reason. A few plays made or missed here or there could have major impacts to the outcome and momentum.
Even two talented, evenly-matched teams can have drastically different outcomes from one game to the next against each other. Just look at the history of CFB matches in the same season or to the NFL.
The outcomes against common opponents have even less bearing as a predictor of a future match between the teams that played that common opponent.
There is a complexity and level of dynamism inherent in all human activity that makes it uncertain. While the %s may show a favorite, the teams still get a vote, so it's why they play the games.
This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 8:27 am
Posted on 11/3/23 at 8:27 am to themetalreb
You're talking about amateur athletes, not robots.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 8:35 am to themetalreb
I asked this before and got laughed at. You will too
Posted on 11/3/23 at 8:37 am to themetalreb
- matchups
- turnovers
- home field
- game plans (coaches are human and have their good and bad games)
- game play (players are human and have their good and bad games)
- kicking game
- turnovers
- home field
- game plans (coaches are human and have their good and bad games)
- game play (players are human and have their good and bad games)
- kicking game
This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 8:50 am
Posted on 11/3/23 at 8:40 am to themetalreb
quote:
It’s just strange that it doesn’t.
It’s really not
Posted on 11/3/23 at 8:40 am to themetalreb
quote:Because any given Saturday/Sunday…
Why doesn’t transitive property work?
Posted on 11/3/23 at 8:50 am to themetalreb
Because transitive property doesn’t take into account matchups. Some teams may be ill-equipped to handle certain things but exceptional at handling other.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 9:06 am to themetalreb
Transitive property does not take into account variables.
Edit: Lol should have read further. Already been answered.
Edit: Lol should have read further. Already been answered.
This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 9:07 am
Posted on 11/3/23 at 9:14 am to themetalreb
Simple. Some teams have the ability to expose a weakness that other teams don't, especially when you have a huge number of variables on a football team. You have facing a QB that absolutely sucks against zone but eats man up, and your defense is primarily play man to man. You are SOL because you are not going to change your entire defense up for one game. You have a left tackle that is flawless unless he is up a DE that has a great chop spin. The other team has a DE who is mediocre except his chop-spin is out of this world. That QB is getting hit all day.
This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 9:16 am
Posted on 11/3/23 at 9:16 am to themetalreb
Ole Miss:
@Bama 10-24 L
Arky 27-20 W
@Aub 28-21 W
Texas A&M:
Bama 20-26 L
vs Arky 34-22 W
Aub 27-10 W
A&M should be favored right? Based on transitive property. But the problem is A&Ms defensive weakness plays into strength for OM. Matchups matter.
@Bama 10-24 L
Arky 27-20 W
@Aub 28-21 W
Texas A&M:
Bama 20-26 L
vs Arky 34-22 W
Aub 27-10 W
A&M should be favored right? Based on transitive property. But the problem is A&Ms defensive weakness plays into strength for OM. Matchups matter.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 10:26 am to themetalreb
I didnt know it was possible to not know the answer to this question.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:53 am to themetalreb
Because teams match up differently.
Posted on 11/3/23 at 11:56 am to themetalreb
Football is about individual matchups
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