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Is Brent Venables next in this sign stealing fiasco?

Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:01 am
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:01 am
SI article from 2020 Clempson

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Clemson defensive coordinator Brent Venables is paid more than $2 million a year for many reasons—he can teach the game, he can recruit elite players, he can build a defensive gameplan. But he’s also a gifted in-game caller, and some of that is built upon what his spies are telling him


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As for Clemson: Venables is a notably late defensive play-caller, usually waiting to see how the offense lines up and then firing off his own signals and calls in the few seconds he has before the ball is snapped. The coaches who spoke to SI for this story attributed that to waiting for information from his code breakers.


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“They have an army of support personnel,” one coach said. “That’s why Venables gets the calls in so late. I’m not sure of the chain of communication to Venables, but he waits for it.”


Might explain the quick turnaround at Oklahoma
Posted by Tejada
Member since Oct 2023
200 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:03 am to
I'd wager every team does this in some capacity.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
9430 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:04 am to
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Might explain the quick turnaround at Oklahoma


Then he should ask for a refund going 6-7 last year and losing so many close games.

Speculation is a dangerous game.
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
2565 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:10 am to
Oklahoma? Cheat?!?

Never....
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67751 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:24 am to
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Might explain the quick turnaround at Oklahoma


honestly last years dip is more surprising than this years bounce back.
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
4094 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:30 am to
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Is Brent Venables next in this sign stealing fiasco?


So, did he just have a staffer snag them during a timeout or did he wait til players were getting their juice boxes at half?

Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
5220 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 11:16 am to
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Is Brent Venables next in this sign stealing fiasco?

He should be
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17627 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 11:45 am to
I think this will be the start of something that isn't good...sort of like false accusers, etc. If one is guilty, burn them. However, what's to stop the false ones gaining traction, especially the hit pieces "journalists" put out...
This post was edited on 10/25/23 at 11:47 am
Posted by MOJO_ERASER
Tulsa Oklahoma
Member since Jun 2017
5839 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 11:48 am to
I have heard several media claim this last few months … espn mainly … I know several fans on this site have said it before as well. Yet no one has any proof…. So speculation is one thing …. Another is waiting for an offense to line up so you can make adjustments which is the same thing Saban does … which is why we went no huddle when we played them in 2014 so they couldn’t adjust and it’s why Saban and any goof defensive guy hates the spread offenses.

LSU had basically everyone of our plays in the 2003 national title game …. OU coaches knew in the first quarter they should have never practiced in New Orleans .

Again sign stealing isn’t illegal . If you scout before the game or use electronics it is …..which is totally different . Why do you think most coaches have those gay signs out there because everyone knows people are doing it …
This post was edited on 10/25/23 at 11:53 am
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:12 pm to
OU had Texas' number on both sides of the ball, regardless.. it still comes down to execution and my Horns did not execute when they had the chance.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17112 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 5:27 pm to
Venables was called out by several coaches for it.

Ryan Day said this about Venables in 2020:

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He seems to always know exactly what the other team is doing in terms of the plays that they’re running, each play. Seems to call the right defense into that play a lot. Why that is, I don’t really know. But I can tell you he’s been doing it for a really long time.


An anonymous ACC coach told Pete Thamel the following:

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They are incredible at it. When you play them, it’s not an even playing field, they have so many [analysts] who are able to do that.


Another ACC coach told Thamel:

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If they don’t have a plan for Clemson’s signal stealers, then Clemson is going to know every play. They should be in the KGB stealing communications, they’re that good.


Another coach:

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The thing to me that they do best is that they do it year-to-year. They’ve developed a tradecraft and a systematic way to do it. And they are really, really good at it.


Then Miami OC, Rhett Lashlee, went public when asked about it in 2020:

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Clemson is known well for doing it.
Posted by SHBlake79
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Aug 2008
1750 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:45 pm to
NOTHING will come of this and nothing will happen to Michigan or anyone. Thr NCAA is powerless and a degenerative Enity. The Big 10 and SEC won’t do anything and NCAA has no Supena power. The Supreme Court has embarrassed the NCAA and exposed how unethical they are. NCAA can’t even crown it’s own college football champ and won’t exist much longer
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