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What would your current top 10 be?
Posted on 10/25/23 at 8:52 am
Posted on 10/25/23 at 8:52 am
Genuinely curious. Personally love to hear the debates and logic of why you'd put teams where.
Based on what teams have accomplished thus far, mine would be as follows:
1. Ohio St
2. Florida St
3. Oklahoma
4. Texas
5. Michigan (cheating?)
6. Bama
7. Washington
8. Georgia
9. Penn St
10. Ole Miss
ETA: Posting in here since it would likely be trolled to death on the Rant
Based on what teams have accomplished thus far, mine would be as follows:
1. Ohio St
2. Florida St
3. Oklahoma
4. Texas
5. Michigan (cheating?)
6. Bama
7. Washington
8. Georgia
9. Penn St
10. Ole Miss
ETA: Posting in here since it would likely be trolled to death on the Rant
This post was edited on 10/25/23 at 8:54 am
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Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:08 am to HighTide_ATL
1) UGA has done nothing to drop and do not care about schedule.
2) UM same as above
3) OSU in my eyes might be the best team and will have a chance to jump up
4) Washington
5) FSU
6) OU
Undefeated teams ahead of 1 loss teams
7) PSU
8) Oregon
9) Texas
10) Alabama
1 loss teams ranked based on who they lost to and their ranking
2) UM same as above
3) OSU in my eyes might be the best team and will have a chance to jump up
4) Washington
5) FSU
6) OU
Undefeated teams ahead of 1 loss teams
7) PSU
8) Oregon
9) Texas
10) Alabama
1 loss teams ranked based on who they lost to and their ranking
This post was edited on 10/25/23 at 9:09 am
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:09 am to HighTide_ATL
1. FSU
2. Ohio St
3. Georgia
4. Washington
5. Oklahoma
6. Michigan - because they haven't played anybody
7. Texas
8. Bama
9. Oregon
10.Ole Miss
2. Ohio St
3. Georgia
4. Washington
5. Oklahoma
6. Michigan - because they haven't played anybody
7. Texas
8. Bama
9. Oregon
10.Ole Miss
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:10 am to TideWarrior
quote:well that's pretty dumb
do not care about schedule.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:13 am to narddogg81
quote:
well that's pretty dumb
Why because we probably find so many threads/comments in years past where UA fans said the same thing to defend our spot at #1.
Who has FSU played? LSU is not very good. A 4-3 Clemson team or a Duke team with an injured QB that could not go the whole game.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:19 am to TideWarrior
FSU has beaten 5 FBS teams with a winning record
Mich has beaten 4
UGA has beaten 1
Mich has beaten 4
UGA has beaten 1
This post was edited on 10/25/23 at 9:26 am
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:43 am to TideWarrior
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Why because we probably find so many threads/comments in years past where UA fans said the same thing to defend our spot at #1.
Can't remember Alabama playing a schedule as bad as UGA's this year, nor performing so poorly vs whoever they were playing. UGA could not help their schedule this year but they certainly could have played FAR better than they have. Week after week struggling against bad competition. E.g., 7 point win vs a bad AU team.
I do believe UGA has been bored but they are not even a very good team, much less a great one. They look like a decent team just goofing around.
Frankly, it is an underwhelming year across the nation. OSU looks moribund, Mich has purposely played no one, Wash is a paper tiger, Oregon is dumb, OU and FSU are playing on a banana peel, UTx is good but overrated...
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:51 am to HighTide_ATL
1. UGA (When you're the champ you're one until you lose imo)
2. FSU (3 quality wins)
3. Ohio State (2.5 quality wins)
4. Oklahoma (1 quality win)
5. Washington (1 quality win, more bad wins than oklahoma)
6. Texas (1 quality win, quality loss)
7. Oregon (1 quality loss on the road, looked better against bad teams)
8. Bama (1 quality loss at home, 3 quality wins, looked worse against bad teams)
BIG GAP BETWEEN 8 and 9
9. Utah (ugly, but 1 semi-quality loss on the road and 3 good wins)
10. Ole Miss (1 quality loss, 2 quality wins, rest is chalk)
11. Oregon State (beat Utah and UCLA, a not-terrible road loss, but rest of the record is really thin)
12. Penn State (1 quality loss, rest of schedule is bad)
13. Notre Dame (1 quality loss, 1 bad loss, 2 quality wins)
14. LSU (2 quality losses, 1 quality win, rest is chalk)
15. Mizzou (1 quality losses, no quality wins but a hair better schedule than UNC)
16. UNC (1 quality loss, slightly worse schedule than Mizzou)
After 16, there's probably a tier of ~15 pretty good teams that could all pull off an upset or get an ugly loss. Hard to sort.
Oregon/Bama really close. Washington/Oklahoma really close. 9-12 is really hard to separate too.
Michigan I think should be ineligible until further notice.
2. FSU (3 quality wins)
3. Ohio State (2.5 quality wins)
4. Oklahoma (1 quality win)
5. Washington (1 quality win, more bad wins than oklahoma)
6. Texas (1 quality win, quality loss)
7. Oregon (1 quality loss on the road, looked better against bad teams)
8. Bama (1 quality loss at home, 3 quality wins, looked worse against bad teams)
BIG GAP BETWEEN 8 and 9
9. Utah (ugly, but 1 semi-quality loss on the road and 3 good wins)
10. Ole Miss (1 quality loss, 2 quality wins, rest is chalk)
11. Oregon State (beat Utah and UCLA, a not-terrible road loss, but rest of the record is really thin)
12. Penn State (1 quality loss, rest of schedule is bad)
13. Notre Dame (1 quality loss, 1 bad loss, 2 quality wins)
14. LSU (2 quality losses, 1 quality win, rest is chalk)
15. Mizzou (1 quality losses, no quality wins but a hair better schedule than UNC)
16. UNC (1 quality loss, slightly worse schedule than Mizzou)
After 16, there's probably a tier of ~15 pretty good teams that could all pull off an upset or get an ugly loss. Hard to sort.
Oregon/Bama really close. Washington/Oklahoma really close. 9-12 is really hard to separate too.
Michigan I think should be ineligible until further notice.
This post was edited on 10/25/23 at 9:53 am
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:32 am to HighTide_ATL
Top 10 logic:
OSU is undefeated with 4 wins against FBS teams with a winning record. Their wins against PSU and ND are probably the two best wins of any team on the list.
FSU is undefeated and has the most wins against FBS teams with winning records (5-0).
Oklahoma is undefeated including 3-0 vs FBS teams with winning record, and has the best win over 1 loss Texas.
Texas is 4-1 against FBS teams with a winning record, and has the next best win over 1 loss Bama.
Michigan is undefeated and has been dominant in all 8 of their wins (cheating?) including 4 against FBS teams with winning records.
Bama is 4-1 against FBS teams with a winning record, having only lost to Texas.
Washington is undefeated and has a win over 1 loss Oregon, but has played just 2 FBS teams with a winning record.
UGA is undefeated, but with just 1 FBS team with a winning record and a total opp win percentage of 48.9%, they have by far the weakest resume.
Penn St has identical record as Ole Miss against FBS teams with winning records (2-1), but has been more dominant (Margin of Victory 26 > 8 ) and has the better loss (OSU > Bama).
OSU is undefeated with 4 wins against FBS teams with a winning record. Their wins against PSU and ND are probably the two best wins of any team on the list.
FSU is undefeated and has the most wins against FBS teams with winning records (5-0).
Oklahoma is undefeated including 3-0 vs FBS teams with winning record, and has the best win over 1 loss Texas.
Texas is 4-1 against FBS teams with a winning record, and has the next best win over 1 loss Bama.
Michigan is undefeated and has been dominant in all 8 of their wins (cheating?) including 4 against FBS teams with winning records.
Bama is 4-1 against FBS teams with a winning record, having only lost to Texas.
Washington is undefeated and has a win over 1 loss Oregon, but has played just 2 FBS teams with a winning record.
UGA is undefeated, but with just 1 FBS team with a winning record and a total opp win percentage of 48.9%, they have by far the weakest resume.
Penn St has identical record as Ole Miss against FBS teams with winning records (2-1), but has been more dominant (Margin of Victory 26 > 8 ) and has the better loss (OSU > Bama).
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:41 am to HighTide_ATL
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FSU has beaten 5 FBS teams with a winning record
Really
Besides maybe LSU are you actually calling these quality wins against:
4-3 Clemson
4-3 Syracuse
4-3 Boston College
5-2 Duke quality wins
Posted on 10/25/23 at 10:42 am to tattoo
quote:
Frankly, it is an underwhelming year across the nation. OSU looks moribund, Mich has purposely played no one, Wash is a paper tiger, Oregon is dumb, OU and FSU are playing on a banana peel, UTx is good but overrated.
This agree with
Posted on 10/25/23 at 11:04 am to TideWarrior
quote:
Besides maybe LSU are you actually calling these quality wins against:
4-3 Clemson
4-3 Syracuse
4-3 Boston College
5-2 Duke
I didn't say "quality wins." This far into the season though, I do place more value on beating FBS teams that have at least managed to get >0.500 against other FBS teams than I do ones that haven't.
As for what is a "quality win," I'd probably only count P5 teams that have at least 5 total wins against FBS opponents
Posted on 10/25/23 at 11:20 am to TideWarrior
Penn State has beaten a bunch of weak teams then got exposed by the first team they played with a pulse.
Their offense is 100 times worse then ours but you have them ranked above us.
Just smh
Their offense is 100 times worse then ours but you have them ranked above us.
Just smh
Posted on 10/25/23 at 11:26 am to YStar
his logic is all over the place lol
This post was edited on 10/25/23 at 11:28 am
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:00 pm to HighTide_ATL
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his logic is all over the place lol
Even the idea that a team is automatically better than another just because of a one-loss difference is absurd.
Why not rank Air Force in the top 5 as well?
Who these team play matters. Michigan will fold the minute they play a good team (without the signals to know all their calls
)
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:04 pm to TideWarrior
quote:
1) UGA has done nothing to drop and do not care about schedule.
2023 UGA has done nothing to rise to #1 either, and the schedule absolutely matters. Otherwise, put Liberty in your top 10.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:31 pm to HighTide_ATL
Who all has the best wins?
Looked the best in its winning?
Maybe FSU throttling LSU in week 1?
Ohio State over PSU at home? ND on the road with last play TD?
Oklahoma over Texas?
Looked the best in its winning?
Maybe FSU throttling LSU in week 1?
Ohio State over PSU at home? ND on the road with last play TD?
Oklahoma over Texas?
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:46 pm to HighTide_ATL
1. UGA
2. Washington
3. Ohio State
4. Oklahoma (tie)
4. Florida State (tie)
6. Michigan (as others have said, no feats)
7. Oregon
7. Texas
9. Bama
10. Penn State
2. Washington
3. Ohio State
4. Oklahoma (tie)
4. Florida State (tie)
6. Michigan (as others have said, no feats)
7. Oregon
7. Texas
9. Bama
10. Penn State
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:47 pm to Crimson77
What do you consider a quality loss? The score or the team? The score against UVA was close, but Virginia is a bad football team.
I wouldn't consider Penn St's loss to Ohio St to be the same as UNC's loss to Virginia.
I wouldn't consider Penn St's loss to Ohio St to be the same as UNC's loss to Virginia.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 1:51 pm to YStar
As expected and Alabama has been exposed by teams without a pulse. USF is that crickets I hear.
So yes since PSU went on the road and lost to a still undefeated team vs UA who lost at home to a current one loss team I have them ranked above us.
Sorry I did not think I was posting on Tidefans
So yes since PSU went on the road and lost to a still undefeated team vs UA who lost at home to a current one loss team I have them ranked above us.
Sorry I did not think I was posting on Tidefans
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