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LSU should cheer for Kentucky (3-Way Tie Breaker)

Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:40 pm
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:40 pm
So I've been seeing a lot of folks ask about the 3-way tie breaker. Here's the rundown of how it would work in a hypothetical tie between Alabama, LSU, and Ole Miss:

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2. Three-Team Tie (or more): If three teams (or more) are tied for a division title, the following procedure will be used in the following order: (Note: If one of the procedures results in one team being eliminated and two remaining, the two-team tiebreaker procedure as stated in No. 1 above will be used):


Note the part in bold. It'll be important later.

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A. Combined head to head record among the tied teams;


Each team is 1-1 vs each other. Move on to B.

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B. Record of the tied teams within the division;


All 3 teams have identical division records.

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C. Head to head competition against the team within the division with the best overall Conference record (divisional and non divisional) and proceeding through the division (multiple ties within the division will be broken from first to last and a tie for first place will be broken before a tie for fourth place);


All 3 teams have identical records against identical foes.

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D. Overall Conference record against non divisional teams;


All 3 teams are undefeated outside of each other

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E. Combined record against all common non divisional teams;


Once again, all 3 teams are undefeated against everyone else.

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F. Record against the common non divisional team with the best overall Conference record (divisional and non divisional) and proceeding through other common non divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division; and


All 3 teams are undefeated against everyone else, and none have a common non-divisional foe.

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G. Best cumulative Conference winning percentage of non-divisional opponents (Note: If two teams' non-divisional opponents have the same cumulative record, then the two-team tiebreaker procedures apply. If four teams are tied, and three teams' non-divisional opponents have the same cumulative record, the three-team tiebreaker procedures will be used beginning with 2.A.);


Right now, here are the combined records of the three teams East opponents:

LSU: 6-2
Alabama: 4-4
Ole Miss: 4-4

With Alabama and Ole Miss tied, this part kicks in:

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If two teams' non-divisional opponents have the same cumulative record, then the two-team tiebreaker procedures apply


As Alabama owns the head-to-head with Ole Miss, then the following is applied:

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A. Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams;


Which now narrows it down to Alabama and LSU, and in this scenario, LSU goes thanks to the same head-to-head rule.

This means that, if all 3 teams finish 7-1, Ole Miss needs their East foes to finish at least 1 game above Alabama's East foes (presuming LSU's stay above the other 2).

Remaining schedules for each:

LSU Opponents:
Florida - Georgia, Arkansas, LSU, Missouri
Missouri - Georgia, Tennessee, Florida, Arkansas

Alabama Opponents:
Tennessee - Kentucky, Missouri, Georgia, Vanderbilt
Kentucky - Tennessee, Mississippi State, Alabama, South Carolina

Ole Miss Opponents:
Georgia - Florida, Missouri, Ole Miss, Tennessee
Vanderbilt - Ole Miss, Auburn, South Carolina, Tennessee
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:45 pm to
We always root for the team playing Tennessee

No explanation needed
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:45 pm to
Thanks
Posted by TDsngumbo
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:46 pm to
If LSU beats Bama, I’m still not getting my hopes up until the regular season is over after seeing us do everything needed and then collapsed against A&M of all teams last year.

Anything is possible.
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 10:47 pm
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:47 pm to
frick you

Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:58 pm to
quote:

Best cumulative Conference winning percentage of non-divisional opponents


This will 100% be the bullshite that decides the West.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:06 pm to
I am just cheering for LSU and enjoying other games. Love SEC football.
Posted by Sev09
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 12:04 am to
No need. I have faith in Georgia beating Ole Miss.
Posted by ifyoubuildit
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 2:25 am to
quote:

Right now, here are the combined records of the three teams East opponents: LSU: 6-2 Alabama: 4-4 Ole Miss: 4-4 With Alabama and Ole Miss tied, this part kicks in: quote: If two teams' non-divisional opponents have the same cumulative record, then the two-team tiebreaker procedures apply As Alabama owns the head-to-head with Ole Miss, then the following is applied: quote: A. Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams;


Wrong. LSU will own the best out of Division record over the other tied teams and the process will end here. LSU will win Division.

The remainder of tiebreaker rules you quote would apply only if the top two or all three teams are tied out of Division.
Posted by dcbl
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 2:34 am to
This game is irrelevant to this tie breaker since Bama plays KY this year

Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:51 am to
Or, lsu should root for Missouri and UF (gross) and for everyone else to lose.
Posted by ForeverLSU5
Member since Mar 2019
1979 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:41 am to
There won't be a need for a tiebreaker, winner of LSU/Bama is gonna win the West...
Posted by The Architect
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Member since Jun 2016
280 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:44 am to
Never count on UK football to deliver you any kind of happiness. This is the way.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7375 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:26 am to
Unless I'm missing something, I thought tie-breakers applied to ANY ranking.
Posted by hoojy
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:28 am to
The only reason one should root against 10rc is their very existence.
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 12:25 pm to
You’re wrong BTW

And it was pointed out in the first page.

I am 100% certain and would bet you $10,000. $100,000. You name it.

The tiebreaker stops at East opponent records, unless there is a #1 tie in that. Which currently there is not. If one team is better there than the other 2, the tie-breaker ends.

Definitely not trying to ridicule you or shame you (tiebreakers can definitely be confusing)…. Just trust me, you’re wrong here.

What you’re explaining is if two teams tied East opponent record. #3 team eliminated and then it goes head-to-head. It doesn’t work “bottom-up”… it works “top-down”
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 12:59 pm
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
6900 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 12:58 pm to
So Vandy is screwing Ole Miss. Got it.
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