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Posted on 3/6/24 at 8:58 am to Diego Ricardo
Posted on 3/6/24 at 8:58 am to Diego Ricardo
Is there any report on Whitesell and is Griffin OK?
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Posted on 3/6/24 at 8:58 am to Diego Ricardo
Watch Bama make an elite 8 run after getting bounced in the SECT (giving them time to rest).
Wouldn't shock me. You can win some games based off hot shooting and a little luck. If Bama doesn't get any terrible matchups they can do it. That would be funny though.
Wouldn't shock me. You can win some games based off hot shooting and a little luck. If Bama doesn't get any terrible matchups they can do it. That would be funny though.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 9:35 am to JIB
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Watch Bama make an elite 8 run after getting bounced in the SECT (giving them time to rest). Wouldn't shock me. You can win some games based off hot shooting and a little luck. If Bama doesn't get any terrible matchups they can do it. That would be funny though.
That is my optimistic take but I’m less optimistic
Posted on 3/6/24 at 10:37 am to Diego Ricardo
I hope to see Bama in the final four one day soon
Posted on 3/6/24 at 10:48 am to Diego Ricardo
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That is my optimistic take but I’m less optimistic
I expect Bama to go 1-2 or maaaaybe 2-2 from here on out. Anything above that would be a solid outcome. I do not *expect* an Elite 8 run, but it would be kind of funny for Oats' worst defensive team by a decent margin to have its most success in the NCAAT.
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 10:49 am
Posted on 3/6/24 at 11:12 am to 1LoudTideFan
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I hate to say it but we peaked a few weeks ago and it’s been a downward slide since the UK beatdown.
We played better teams the past two weeks winning 1/4. What is a good team we have beaten? Auburn?
It’s good to win the ones you are supposed to win though. I not happy with the team but it’s been hell of a rebuilding job for Oats. Future is bright.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 11:15 am to bamagoat
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the court balance is poor
I think this is a really, really good rebuilding team that has overachieved.
Last season we could hit the gas and take off or slug through a rock fight with anyone.
This season we're simply not elite — better than 350 teams in the country, just not necessarily those top 15 or 20. We don't have a 7-ft Bediako protecting the rim, a mobile big who plays defense like Clowney, or a Miller who can put the team on his back.
But considering the alternatives, this team has really done well given the obstacles they've faced, and their success should help us to keep adding those needed pieces going forward.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 4:16 pm to paperwasp
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Evan Miyakawa
@EvanMiya
Florida is the team in the 5-8 seed range that I think has the biggest deep run potential in March.
If they can survive their first game (they don't play great against weaker teams), they profile a lot like Miami in 2023: they play their best against elite teams, and they have great guards.
11:16 AM · Mar 6, 2024
Ohhh boy. What does this adjusted metric say about us (the blue line)?
Posted on 3/6/24 at 5:27 pm to paperwasp
Was any update ever given on Wrightsell and Griffin? I assume both are fine
Posted on 3/6/24 at 8:17 pm to Allthatfades
hogs wins 
Posted on 3/6/24 at 8:56 pm to Allthatfades
Rylan only has a bruise. Have not heard if Wrightsell had a headache after playing, but I gave heard talk that both are ok.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 8:59 pm to Allthatfades
Nate Oats is a top 5 coach in the country right now in my opinion, and I will never have as smart of a basketball mind as he has. Having said that, I'd really like to see him switch up defensive strategies with this group. His defensive philosophy involves high ball-pressure and a lot of help defense as a result, but the over-helping this year with this group has caused us an enormous amount of problems. So many times every game we have perimeter defenders leaving their man prematurely to help out before the POA defender is even beat. Just the attempt at driving past their man collapsed our entire defense last night.
Drive, help defender leaves his man, defensive scramble as they swing the ball, an inevitable open shot, rinse and repeat. That type of defense seems to work well when you have an incredible amount of length and athleticism at the 3-5 to cover ground (like we had last year), but with our lack of size the result has been open shots galore.
I mean why the hell not run zone at this point? It can't possibly be any worse...
Drive, help defender leaves his man, defensive scramble as they swing the ball, an inevitable open shot, rinse and repeat. That type of defense seems to work well when you have an incredible amount of length and athleticism at the 3-5 to cover ground (like we had last year), but with our lack of size the result has been open shots galore.
I mean why the hell not run zone at this point? It can't possibly be any worse...
Posted on 3/6/24 at 11:16 pm to paperwasp
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Ohhh boy. What does this adjusted metric say about us (the blue line)?
Seems to echo what many of us were saying most of the season in this thread.
It's a fun, legitimate Top25 team that's far exceeded expectations in a year we replaced the coaching staff and most of the roster.
However, some of the NET #5 type efficiency rankings were a bit of fool's gold based on absolutely pummeling below average teams and putting on a offensive clinic against most pretty good teams we played too.
However, the tourney's a crapshoot. Not sure this team has shown the ability to knock off 3 straight great teams but could certainly get a couple of favorable match-ups and make a little run.
I hate to say it all comes down to 3-pt shooting but it sort of does with this team. Defense is decent enough to beat anybody if we can shoot 35% from behind the arc. Not good enough to beat other good teams if they hold us to 20-25%.
Posted on 3/7/24 at 5:54 am to BigBird09
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Nate Oats is a top 5 coach in the country right now in my opinion, and I will never have as smart of a basketball mind as he has. Having said that, I'd really like to see him switch up defensive strategies with this group. His defensive philosophy involves high ball-pressure and a lot of help defense as a result, but the over-helping this year with this group has caused us an enormous amount of problems. So many times every game we have perimeter defenders leaving their man prematurely to help out before the POA defender is even beat. Just the attempt at driving past their man collapsed our entire defense last night.
Completely agree. Love Nate and love our style, it makes us unique and marketable. But I do cringe a little when after every bad game defensively Nate says we "need to play harder". Sears and Estrada are crafty offensive guards, excellent ball handlers and they understand leverage, but they specialize in some "dad moves" because they aren't superior athletes. I love that about them, they can manufacture points with basketball IQ. You throw in the inexperience of Stevenson and we have three pretty pretty flawed defenders. The effort is often times there, but when the switches come, we are a step behind and it's either a foul or getting beat.
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:05 am to mistaken4193
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Did you watch the game? The first 15-18 mins was some of the best defense we have played all year but when the ball wasn’t going in the basket for us on the other end it became a disaster very quick
Yes and what I watched was Florida Miss a bunch of open shots while our guards made unforced turnovers and Rylan basically mentally checkout costing us on both sides of the floor.
Then after the commercial break where Florida's coach chuckled and said they would make some and not continue to miss... they went on a run by continuously attacking the rim for easy layups until they build enough confidence to hit threes.
Our big (Pringle) thinks he's a 3 or a 4 and never floats in front of the rim to take contact and divert them whenever they make these runs so each of those teams I mentioned lean into that whenever they see Pringle on the floor and that is how we tend to lose
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:30 am to YStar
We played the 2nd toughest conference schedule in the league with a completely rebuilt staff and roster and Almost won it. No matter how it ends Oats should be commended on the job he has done.
Posted on 3/7/24 at 10:46 am to mistaken4193
In the last 25+ years only once has a team won the SEC regular season in back to back years (Florida in 2013 and 2014). It's not easy to do. The fact that Bama lost 3 assistant coaches, 2 NBA 1st rounders, and brought in more new players than ever before and had a chance to win the SEC in March is something. I think we all expected a bit of a dropoff after being the #1 seed, but for a while there we looked to once again win the SEC.
This post was edited on 3/7/24 at 11:14 am
Posted on 3/7/24 at 10:52 am to JIB
Got to constantly remind myself even though the last few weeks have been disappointing that this team probably reached their potential regardless.
Posted on 3/7/24 at 11:58 am to Diego Ricardo
More context
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Blake Byler@blakebyler45·2h
Pretty remarkable that Alabama has the No. 2 strength of schedule in SEC play, and still has a 12-5 league record.
Every other team in the top five of the league standings has an SEC SOS in the bottom-5.
Posted on 3/7/24 at 12:17 pm to YStar
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Our big (Pringle) thinks he's a 3 or a 4 and never floats in front of the rim to take contact and divert them whenever they make these runs so each of those teams I mentioned lean into that whenever they see Pringle on the floor and that is how we tend to lose
I think of all things that surprise me. I expected Pringle to struggle to defend big guys in the paint. But to be honest, he actually does a pretty good job there and hasn't really hurt us. On the flip side, I thought Pringle would be a very good help defender and rim protector. Unfortunately, he for some reason just isn't.
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