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SEC coaches records vs final AP top 25 teams
Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:57 am
Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:57 am
Spinoff from the 247 thread, but was curious to see how current SEC coaches have fared vs teams that finished the season ranked in the AP Poll.
sorted by win pct
1. Kirby Smart: 24-11 (.686)
2. Nick Saban: 71-51 (.582)
3. Jimbo Fisher: 19-28 (.404)
4. Brian Kelly: 25-38 (.397)
5. Josh Heupel: 6-10 (.375)
6. Hugh Freeze: 10-20 (.333)
7. Shane Beamer: 2-5 (.286)
8. Billy Napier: 3-9 (.250)
9. Steve Sarkisian: 7-28 (.200)
10. Mark Stoops: 5-28 (.152)
11. Lane Kiffin: 4-23 (.148)
12. Eli Drinkwitz: 1-9 (.100)
13. Sam Pittman: 0-8 (.000)
14. Clark Lea: 0-7 (.000)
15. Brent Venables: 0-4 (.000)
Zach Arnett: N/A
Discuss & nitpick as you see fit
sorted by win pct
1. Kirby Smart: 24-11 (.686)
2. Nick Saban: 71-51 (.582)
3. Jimbo Fisher: 19-28 (.404)
4. Brian Kelly: 25-38 (.397)
5. Josh Heupel: 6-10 (.375)
6. Hugh Freeze: 10-20 (.333)
7. Shane Beamer: 2-5 (.286)
8. Billy Napier: 3-9 (.250)
9. Steve Sarkisian: 7-28 (.200)
10. Mark Stoops: 5-28 (.152)
11. Lane Kiffin: 4-23 (.148)
12. Eli Drinkwitz: 1-9 (.100)
13. Sam Pittman: 0-8 (.000)
14. Clark Lea: 0-7 (.000)
15. Brent Venables: 0-4 (.000)
Zach Arnett: N/A
Discuss & nitpick as you see fit
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:59 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
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11. Lane Kiffin: 4-23 (.148)
Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:59 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
You know this will cause an argument of ranked at the time vs ranked at the end. 
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:01 am to bigDgator
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You know this will cause an argument of ranked at the time vs ranked at the end.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:02 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
Godspeed sir! 
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:03 am to BlindedMeWithScience
didn't realize Lane's was that bad
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:12 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
• Kirby Smart + Nick Saban --> 95 wins
• Other Coaches Combined --> 82 wins
• Smart + Saban + Fisher + Kelly --> 139 wins
• Other Coaches Combined --> 38 wins
• Other Coaches Combined --> 82 wins
• Smart + Saban + Fisher + Kelly --> 139 wins
• Other Coaches Combined --> 38 wins
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:16 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
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13. Sam Pittman: 0-8 (.000)
14. Clark Lea: 0-7 (.000)
Some of this is self-fulfilling. If you lose to a team like Arkansas or Vanderbilt, the voters won't want to vote you into the top 25.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:20 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
I mean, you can only beat the teams that are in front of you. If we beat someone, and then they continue to lose, not our fault.
I'd be curious what their record is against current ranked teams.
I'd be curious what their record is against current ranked teams.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:24 am to DuckTalesLOL
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mean, you can only beat the teams that are in front of you. If we beat someone, and then they continue to lose, not our fault.
No one says it is your fault.
But you didn't beat a top 25 team.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:32 am to bigDgator
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You know this will cause an argument of ranked at the time vs ranked at the end
it shouldn't as ranked at the end of the season is a TRUE factor of how that team was.
i see these stats on teams all the time in that they beat 5 top 10 teams and I'm like huh? When you check it they beat one.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:35 am to meansonny
That's pretty dumb logic IMO.
So weeks 1-12 don't matter then?
So weeks 1-12 don't matter then?
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:38 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
Finally. Ranked at end of season is the only metric that matters. Great post.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:40 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
Sabans time at LSU really dragging his record down
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:42 am to DuckTalesLOL
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That's pretty dumb logic IMO. So weeks 1-12 don't matter then?
Preseason rankings determine a lot of things and they are usually very wrong. A team that starts out #25 can sometimes be #8 by week 4 and then the real season starts and they lose multiple games. There’s also almost always a top 10 team preseason that is completely off the wall and don’t finish ranked. (A&M in 2022, LSU in 2020, etc)
So yeah end of year matters way more.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:47 am to Frac the world
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Sabans time at LSU really dragging his record down
He has lost more games at Bama than he did at LSU
Posted on 7/6/23 at 12:30 pm to LSUNV
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He has lost more games at Bama than he did at LSU
Did you know Bear Bryant lost more games at Alabama than Kentucky or Texas A&M?????
Posted on 7/6/23 at 12:43 pm to DuckTalesLOL
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That's pretty dumb logic IMO.
Not when you look at it this way.
Weeks 1-12 ALL matter.
If you play a team in week 3, why shouldn't 4-12 matter?
End of season has all weeks matter equally.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 12:48 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
Do you know what Leachs was by any chance?
Posted on 7/6/23 at 12:57 pm to DuckTalesLOL
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That's pretty dumb logic IMO.
So weeks 1-12 don't matter then?
All weeks matter... but not where the team was ranked at that time... only where they finish in the rankings.
Think about it this way. If UGA beat South Carolina and Notre Dame beat South Carolina... they beat the same opponent.
But if SC was unranked when UGA beat them and ranked in the top 25 when Notre Dame beat them, why should one win count as a top 25 win and the other not given that the two beat the exact same opponent?
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