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SEC coaches records vs final AP top 25 teams
Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:57 am
Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:57 am
Spinoff from the 247 thread, but was curious to see how current SEC coaches have fared vs teams that finished the season ranked in the AP Poll.
sorted by win pct
1. Kirby Smart: 24-11 (.686)
2. Nick Saban: 71-51 (.582)
3. Jimbo Fisher: 19-28 (.404)
4. Brian Kelly: 25-38 (.397)
5. Josh Heupel: 6-10 (.375)
6. Hugh Freeze: 10-20 (.333)
7. Shane Beamer: 2-5 (.286)
8. Billy Napier: 3-9 (.250)
9. Steve Sarkisian: 7-28 (.200)
10. Mark Stoops: 5-28 (.152)
11. Lane Kiffin: 4-23 (.148)
12. Eli Drinkwitz: 1-9 (.100)
13. Sam Pittman: 0-8 (.000)
14. Clark Lea: 0-7 (.000)
15. Brent Venables: 0-4 (.000)
Zach Arnett: N/A
Discuss & nitpick as you see fit
sorted by win pct
1. Kirby Smart: 24-11 (.686)
2. Nick Saban: 71-51 (.582)
3. Jimbo Fisher: 19-28 (.404)
4. Brian Kelly: 25-38 (.397)
5. Josh Heupel: 6-10 (.375)
6. Hugh Freeze: 10-20 (.333)
7. Shane Beamer: 2-5 (.286)
8. Billy Napier: 3-9 (.250)
9. Steve Sarkisian: 7-28 (.200)
10. Mark Stoops: 5-28 (.152)
11. Lane Kiffin: 4-23 (.148)
12. Eli Drinkwitz: 1-9 (.100)
13. Sam Pittman: 0-8 (.000)
14. Clark Lea: 0-7 (.000)
15. Brent Venables: 0-4 (.000)
Zach Arnett: N/A
Discuss & nitpick as you see fit
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:59 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
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11. Lane Kiffin: 4-23 (.148)
Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:59 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
You know this will cause an argument of ranked at the time vs ranked at the end. 
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:12 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
• Kirby Smart + Nick Saban --> 95 wins
• Other Coaches Combined --> 82 wins
• Smart + Saban + Fisher + Kelly --> 139 wins
• Other Coaches Combined --> 38 wins
• Other Coaches Combined --> 82 wins
• Smart + Saban + Fisher + Kelly --> 139 wins
• Other Coaches Combined --> 38 wins
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:16 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
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13. Sam Pittman: 0-8 (.000)
14. Clark Lea: 0-7 (.000)
Some of this is self-fulfilling. If you lose to a team like Arkansas or Vanderbilt, the voters won't want to vote you into the top 25.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:20 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
I mean, you can only beat the teams that are in front of you. If we beat someone, and then they continue to lose, not our fault.
I'd be curious what their record is against current ranked teams.
I'd be curious what their record is against current ranked teams.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:38 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
Finally. Ranked at end of season is the only metric that matters. Great post.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:40 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
Sabans time at LSU really dragging his record down
Posted on 7/6/23 at 12:48 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
Do you know what Leachs was by any chance?
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:00 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
There's two members that post non stop and they've yet to touch this thread. So odd
Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:16 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
Of course you chose finished. Can't have Zach Arnett in first place since you're sorting by win% and he's undefeated vs. top 25 opponents at 1-0 vs. Illinois in our bowl game as interim.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 2:43 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
Not even one Steven alter, or his awkward step brother Sidewalk, response to be found.
Interesting
Interesting
Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:33 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
Only the AP?
Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:46 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
Saban has compiled a 274-67-1 (.803) record, including a 183-25 (.880) mark in Tuscaloosa. I'm not sure where the 51 losses come from, but they weren't in Tuscaloosa. That would mean 51 of his total of 67 losses were to top 25 teams, which is possible I guess.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:55 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
I remember about Mullen was that we didn't play many #18-25 teams. That was part of his bad record against the Top 25. They were either unranked or Top 15, often top 5. If they were #20 and he beat them, they didn't finish in the top 25.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:57 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
This is a much better stat.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:02 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
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Discuss & nitpick as you see fit
I think total wins is probably the most important component to the stat.
Winning percentage is probably second and provides great context.
You aren't supposed to win a lot of games against a top 5 opponent. Just getting any is impressive.
Extrapolate that down to the majority of programs and the scale slides:
You aren't supposed to win a lot of games against top 10 opponents.
Or you aren't supposed to win a lot of games against top 15 opponents.
Etc.. etc..
Posted on 7/6/23 at 4:02 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
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5. Josh Heupel: 6-10 (.375)
6. Hugh Freeze: 10-20 (.333)
7. Shane Beamer: 2-5 (.286)
8. Billy Napier: 3-9 (.250)
9. Steve Sarkisian: 7-28 (.200)
10. Mark Stoops: 5-28 (.152)
11. Lane Kiffin: 4-23 (.148)
This is the most eye opening section. I had no idea Lane was so lame. And Heupel the savior is 6-10??? Wow.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:56 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
Notable SEC coaches and their record (s) against final ranked teams (AP and Coaches):
Nick Saban (Bama): .70370 (57-24)
Kirby Smart (UGA): .68571 (24-11)
Steve Spurrier (Florida): .61594 (42-26-1
Gene Stallings (Bama): .61290 (19-12)
Bear Bryant (Bama): .58523 (49-34-5)
Robert Neyland (Vols): .50000 (15-15-3)
Urban Meyer (Florida): .50000 (14-14)
Phil Fulmer (Vols): .49367 (39-40)
Frank Thomas (Bama): .48276 (13-14-2)
Nick Saban (LSU): .47826 (11-12)
Johnny Vaught (Ole Miss): .45455 (28-34-4)
Les Miles (LSU): .45652 (21-25)
Paul Dietzel (LSU): .39583 (9-14-1)
Mark Richt (UGA): .39130 (27-42)
Vince Dooley (UGA): .38690 (30-49-5)
Pat Dye (Auburn): .38542 (17-28-3)
Shug Jordan (Auburn): .35542 (29-53-1)
Charles McClendon (LSU): .31538 (20-44-1)
Johnny Majors (Vols): .30909 (14-35-6)
Wally Butts (UGA): .22642 (11-40-2)
Nick Saban (Bama): .70370 (57-24)
Kirby Smart (UGA): .68571 (24-11)
Steve Spurrier (Florida): .61594 (42-26-1
Gene Stallings (Bama): .61290 (19-12)
Bear Bryant (Bama): .58523 (49-34-5)
Robert Neyland (Vols): .50000 (15-15-3)
Urban Meyer (Florida): .50000 (14-14)
Phil Fulmer (Vols): .49367 (39-40)
Frank Thomas (Bama): .48276 (13-14-2)
Nick Saban (LSU): .47826 (11-12)
Johnny Vaught (Ole Miss): .45455 (28-34-4)
Les Miles (LSU): .45652 (21-25)
Paul Dietzel (LSU): .39583 (9-14-1)
Mark Richt (UGA): .39130 (27-42)
Vince Dooley (UGA): .38690 (30-49-5)
Pat Dye (Auburn): .38542 (17-28-3)
Shug Jordan (Auburn): .35542 (29-53-1)
Charles McClendon (LSU): .31538 (20-44-1)
Johnny Majors (Vols): .30909 (14-35-6)
Wally Butts (UGA): .22642 (11-40-2)
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 7/7/23 at 7:47 am to The_Ultimate_Warrior
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11. Lane Kiffin: 4-23 (.148)
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