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I think we will be good at WR

Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:18 am
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:18 am
We have multiple people saying we don’t have talent at WR. I think we are going to be good with Bond, Law, Earle, Prentice, and Brooks. My only concern is Brooks is the only one taller than 5’10-11”.
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 9:18 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:19 am to
I think that it is extremely difficult to figure out what is a development/talent issue and what is a scheme issue with us right now.

I like Law and Bond. Prentice has shown some flashes. Not sure what to think of Earle at this point.
Posted by bamabenny
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:21 am to
Would like to see what we’re working with in Aaron Anderson
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:23 am to
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I think that it is extremely difficult to figure out what is a development/talent issue and what is a scheme issue with us right now.


You’re probably correct but all of these guys are young and at most have been in the program for 2 years. With a different system that emphasizes getting the ball to our playmakers in space instead of what we currently have, all of these guys can be lethal.

JoJo needs to hold on to the dang ball.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:25 am to
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Would like to see what we’re working with in Aaron Anderson


Me too. I’ve read he is the best of the bunch but he has been injured.
Posted by Shaft Williams
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:27 am to
We have the second most talented WR room in the country after Ohio State. We have always preferred WRs that are in the 5-10 to 6 foot range under Saban. A Steve Smith body type at WR is harder for many DBs to defend against than those big 6-4 WRs.

What I believe we have is a coaching issue in the WR room. The scheme isn't helping either.

After the Texas game Urban Meyer all but said Alabama doesn't have the talent at WR and that we need to play the young WRs. So, Urban knew the talent of the young WRs versus the upper classmen WRs.

And, Holden is out of position. I think Holden should be used as a hybrid TE.
Posted by Shaft Williams
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:29 am to
I'd like to know what's going on with Leary. I don't see what Jojo is bringing to the table to get more playing time than Leary.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:40 am to
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We have always preferred WRs that are in the 5-10 to 6 foot range under Saban.


We have always had 2-3 WRs 6’ and taller.

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After the Texas game Urban Meyer all but said Alabama doesn't have the talent at WR and that we need to play the young WRs. So, Urban knew the talent of the young WRs versus the upper classmen WRs.


Our upperclassmen WRs are Jones-Bell, Holden, Burton, and Harrell. We have been playing the young WRs. I think our problem is a system too complicated and bland for them to make a difference.

I don’t think Wiggins is a problem. BoB expects our WRs and QB to see things the exact same way. It takes time for QBs and WRs to build that chemistry.
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 9:42 am
Posted by Goombaw
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:44 am to
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My only concern is Brooks is the only one taller than 5’10-11”

Tua is lighting it up in Miami with Tyreek and Waddle.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:44 am to
I think that a new OC will come in and be very happy with his stable of RBs/WRs.

I don't know HOW good these guys are, but I do know they are good enough to have a very good offense with someone who plays to their skillsets. Are they are bunch of NFL guys? Dunno. Are they guys who a creative OC can use to make big plays? Absolutely.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:45 am to
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I don't know HOW good these guys are, but I do know they are good enough to have a very good offense with someone who plays to their skillsets. Are they are bunch of NFL guys? Dunno. Are they guys who a creative OC can use to make big plays? Absolutely.


We are on the same page.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:49 am to
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We are on the same page.


Plus, next year you have a fully healthy Harrell for the entire spring/fall camp (and he may do nothing and he may blossom, who knows) and add Hale and Benson.

Tyler Harrell - Senior
JaCorey Brooks - Junior
JoJo Earle - Junior
Malik Benson - Sophomore
Kobe Prentice - Sophomore
Isaiah Bond - Sophomore
Kendrick Law - Sophomore
Aaron Anderson - Freshman (R)
Shazz Preston - Freshman (R)
Jalen Hale - Freshman

Jermaine Burton? Traeshon Holden?


I really do think if we bring in a creative, solid OC that we will have a massive jump in production next year with that group.
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 10:28 am
Posted by Kashmir
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 9:53 am to
Mickey Mouse as OC would do more with that group than BoB!
Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 10:11 am to
JoJo will be fine . Bad luck on the hit and fumble but if they can get him the ball in space he can make things happen . Instead we use him on corner routes ( which he made a hell of a catch against LSU)
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 10:15 am to
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JoJo will be fine . Bad luck on the hit and fumble but if they can get him the ball in space he can make things happen . Instead we use him on corner routes ( which he made a hell of a catch against LSU)


Yea - the lack of creativity or adjustment to use guys in ways where they can suceed at their current skill/experience level instead of seeing every player as an android pawn on a board with no difference in skillset is................frustrating.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 10:25 am to
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Tyler Harrell - Senior
JaCorey Brooks - Junior
JoJo Earle - Junior
Malik Benson - Sophomore
Kobe Prentice - Sophomore
Isaiah Bond - Sophomore
Kendrick Law - Sophomore
Aaron Anderson - Freshman (R)
Jalen Hale - Freshman
Jermaine Burton? Traeshon Holden?


We also have Shazz Preston unless he decides to move on.

I would think Holden and Burton move on if they want to get any meaningful playing time. You have to think at minimum Holden will get passed over by the younger guys. His issues aren’t just with the system, he struggles to catch easy balls.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 10:27 am to
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We also have Shazz Preston unless he decides to move on.



Good point

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I would think Holden and Burton move on if they want to get any meaningful playing time. You have to think at minimum Holden will get passed over by the younger guys. His issues aren’t just with the system, he struggles to catch easy balls.


Yea - it feels like Holden got his shot this year and it just didn't work out. I think we know what he is at this point. Much like Javon Baker, I'm guessing he leaves, goes to a smaller place and has a nice year (Javon has 41 catche for 558 yds and 4 TDs at UCF).

No clue what Burton will do.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 10:35 am to
I agree completely. Bond, Law, Prentice, and Brooks are all good. Just gotta get someone in that knows what to do with them.
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 10:43 am to
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seeing every player as an android pawn on a board with no difference in skillset


This was always a concern with BooB. You read the coverage right 95%+ of the time, you are Randy Moss, or you fail. There is no other potential outcome and a refusal (or inability) to deviate from that system was bound to fail at the college level as soon as you don't have at least one guy who falls into the first category and is therefore almost always open. Metchie and Slade always got it right, and so Bryce always had somewhere to go with the ball last year. No one in our current WR room has the experience or knowledge necessary to read coverage correctly all the time, and it has completely fricked the offense this year despite the run game and OL being markedly improved.
This post was edited on 11/14/22 at 10:46 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/14/22 at 10:46 am to
Law, in the little that we've seen him, seems to have the stuff. Kind of reminds me of Deebo Samuel.
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