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re: State of the program: Texas vs Texas A&M
Posted on 10/26/22 at 3:48 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
Posted on 10/26/22 at 3:48 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
Whoever has the best qb that year will be best that year
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 3:50 pm to Tigerpride18
shite , that’s all football is anymore, do you have a good qb? No? Well you suck
Posted on 10/26/22 at 3:50 pm to texag7
Texag7, Daniel Figurelli-pretty shitty comment about Sark. I don’t go around telling everyone you could eat corn thru a picket fence w/ those teeth of yours.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 3:51 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
shite show A
shite show B
shite show B
Posted on 10/26/22 at 3:53 pm to EastTXHorn
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Texas will always be positioned for success more so than A&M. What kind of dumbass question is this? What evidence is there ever that A&M can be a championship level program?
There isn't much evidence either team can be a championship level program
Posted on 10/26/22 at 3:58 pm to ibldprplgld
Cutty Sark vs Jimbo Beam
Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:02 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
I'll say Texas, but only because Texas a&m is in a REALLY bad spot right now.
Texas is still "rebuilding", but the way they're giving away games, and the fact that they've lost their last 6 true road games in a row, is pretty staggering.
Sark has assembled a decent roster, and the FPI/SP+/other number metrics say as much, but they're still not scoring more points than half of their opponents under Sarkisian, which is... kind of the whole point
Texas is still "rebuilding", but the way they're giving away games, and the fact that they've lost their last 6 true road games in a row, is pretty staggering.
Sark has assembled a decent roster, and the FPI/SP+/other number metrics say as much, but they're still not scoring more points than half of their opponents under Sarkisian, which is... kind of the whole point
Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:09 pm to Basura Blanco
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That is an interesting way to look at it and it certainly seems plausible. I am too lazy to look it up, but it seems the move to the SEC certainly improved the talent level A&M has been able to bring in.
Night and day difference. Baylor and Tech should have been left behind when the SWC folded. Having 2 additional P5 programs in the state diluted everyone's rosters. TCU joining the Big 12 made it even worse. Plus UH as a high level G5 program.
Assuming you're an LSU fan, imagine having 2-3 other SEC programs in Louisiana recruting against LSU for LA talent every year. Every time LSU drops a big game, those coaches are in your recruits living rooms telling the kids they can rep Louisiana in the SEC better than LSU can. Play for the same conference title, on the same national stage, and everything. Would LSU have had the consistent success they've enjoyed under those circumstances?
Now with all the major programs in the SEC together, there will finally be some real differentiation between A&M/Texas, and those other programs. And I think A&M and Texas both will have more consistent talent pipelines because of it.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:09 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
"Represent Texas in the SEC" is a strong pull for recruits and A&M has played that card well. Long term, Texas will be better, same as it ever was.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:36 pm to Krampus
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Assuming you're an LSU fan
Yes
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Every time LSU drops a big game, those coaches are in your recruits living rooms telling the kids they can rep Louisiana in the SEC better than LSU can. Play for the same conference title, on the same national stage, and everything. Would LSU have had the consistent success they've enjoyed under those circumstances?
Now with all the major programs in the SEC together, there will finally be some real differentiation between A&M/Texas, and those other programs. And I think A&M and Texas both will have more consistent talent pipelines because of it.
Yep, totally agree about being the only SEC school in the state helping us. There is no way La could support two SEC schools. We would be in the same boat as Ole Miss/Miss State.
I do believe however that A&M joining the SEC helped LSU with TX recruiting in a back-arse way. You guys obviously were selling the SEC to kids which created trickle down exposure to us as we were the closest non-Texas conference school.
Now that Texas and to a lesser extent OU is joining, I am torn on how it will affect recruiting. A&M and LSU both can now sell the fact we will be playing more games in the state, and again get that trickle down recognition as Texas becomes more of an SEC state. Of course, diluting the overall talent pool with more SEC schools will likely offset that, but as to how much, I have no idea.
Hell, I have given up on getting a handle on recruiting and why kids go where they go anyway. With the Top 100 kids, its definitely a national game (or at least vastly regional) with state ties being less important than ever. A little less so in say Louisiana and Alabama maybe.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:45 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
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Which football program is on a better trajectory and why?
The answer is anybody but Texas A&M, rough week for the Aggies.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:14 pm to EastTXHorn
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Texas will always be positioned for success more so than A&M. What kind of dumbass question is this? What evidence is there ever that A&M can be a championship level program?
Texas was once a championship level program. But where is the evidence it can be again?
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:29 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
If you had asked me before the season I would have said saggy. They had a decade of advantage over UT.
I just wished we'd never added SC, Arkie, saggy or Ut. I much prefer playing Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, UGA, Ole Piss, Kentucky, Bama and State. For some reason I welcome OU.
We will probably be shoved into the old SWC division with UT, aggy, Mizzou, OU and Arkie along with Ole Piss and State.
I just wished we'd never added SC, Arkie, saggy or Ut. I much prefer playing Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, UGA, Ole Piss, Kentucky, Bama and State. For some reason I welcome OU.
We will probably be shoved into the old SWC division with UT, aggy, Mizzou, OU and Arkie along with Ole Piss and State.
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:43 pm to Shunface
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Texas was once a championship level program. But where is the evidence it can be again?
What kind of question even is this? It's about the coach...
What evidence was there LSU would be a championship program in 2000?
What evidence was there Alabama would win again before Saban?
What evidence was there Georgia would ever win one after 1980?
Tennessee is winning again after being a joke for two decades.
Texas gets the right coach and it can be right back at a championship level. Just like any program.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:48 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
Did you even read the quote?
I’m guessing not.
I’m guessing not.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:49 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
They are the #3 and #5 best football teams in their own state.
Does it matter?
Does it matter?
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:52 pm to VABuckeye
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Sark drinks out of a paper bag
And jimbo is doing it sober.
Sark for the win
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:53 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Does it matter?
Well, it is a big state.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 9:56 pm to Che Boludo
I couldn't care less.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 10:33 pm to Krampus
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Night and day difference. Baylor and Tech should have been left behind when the SWC folded. Having 2 additional P5 programs in the state diluted everyone's rosters. TCU joining the Big 12 made it even worse. Plus UH as a high level G5 program.
This is pure Aggie right here.. “if it wasn’t for Baylor tcu and Houston we’d be good!”
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