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Why can’t Florida hire a proven winner as a HC?
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:10 am
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:10 am
Since 1990 which is when Florida fans insist football was invented, Florida has never been able to get a proven big name coach in football
Yes spurrier is now a legend. But when he was hired he was Duke’s coach and was rejected by many schools like lsu and Tennessee, and the Gators probably only took him since he played for them. Worked out well in that case.
Then they promoted their special teams coordinator and the Zook era
Began.
Following that failure, they go with Unproven Utah Urban, who only used the Florida job as a stepping stone to his real destination dream job: Ohio State
Ever since Florida has hired losers: Agent Muschamp, Mid Major Mac, Discount Dan, and Bargin Bin Billy.
Last year it made sense that programs like usc and lsu were able to flex on the gators with proven winner hires like Lincoln and Kelly so Florida going tot he discount rack made sense.
But in 2017 lower level programs like faded Nebraska and never been ucla beat Florida out for their coaching targets, which is why they settled for discount Dan.
People always talk about Florida being a top job, but the history shows that it is not since it can’t hire proven winners and the only successful coach they’ve had in the 21st century (urban) only used it as a stepping stone to his dream job.
Florida is a dead program.
Yes spurrier is now a legend. But when he was hired he was Duke’s coach and was rejected by many schools like lsu and Tennessee, and the Gators probably only took him since he played for them. Worked out well in that case.
Then they promoted their special teams coordinator and the Zook era
Began.
Following that failure, they go with Unproven Utah Urban, who only used the Florida job as a stepping stone to his real destination dream job: Ohio State
Ever since Florida has hired losers: Agent Muschamp, Mid Major Mac, Discount Dan, and Bargin Bin Billy.
Last year it made sense that programs like usc and lsu were able to flex on the gators with proven winner hires like Lincoln and Kelly so Florida going tot he discount rack made sense.
But in 2017 lower level programs like faded Nebraska and never been ucla beat Florida out for their coaching targets, which is why they settled for discount Dan.
People always talk about Florida being a top job, but the history shows that it is not since it can’t hire proven winners and the only successful coach they’ve had in the 21st century (urban) only used it as a stepping stone to his dream job.
Florida is a dead program.
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Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:12 am to Between TheHedges
another UT fan bad take...
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:15 am to Between TheHedges
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Agent Muschamp, Mid Major Mac, Discount Dan, and Bargin Bin Billy.
ahahahahahahahhah
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:16 am to theRealJesseD
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theRealJesseD
Frick Tennessee
We will put them in their place on Nov 5
But the dawgs have WLOCP this week
But as a gump I can see why you have Tennessee on your mind so much after they absolutely humiliated y’all on national prime time television!
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:17 am to Between TheHedges
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But as a gump
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Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:17 am to Between TheHedges
Not sure what Vince Dooley's previous experience was but none of Ray Goff, Jim Donnan, Mark Richt, or Kirby Smart were "proven winners".
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:18 am to RandySavage
exactly... dumb take
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:19 am to theRealJesseD
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?
Thought you were a gump fan
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:20 am to Between TheHedges
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Thought you were a gump fan
why would you think that?
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:22 am to theRealJesseD
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why would you think that?
Because you came into a thread about Florida talking about Tennessee fans (unless you meant Texas by UT)
And the Gumps have been butt hurt and obsessed with Tennessee ever since TSIO this year
This post was edited on 10/25/22 at 11:24 am
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:28 am to Between TheHedges
"proven winners" isn't the right analysis. Just ask 8&Forfeit fans.
What is amazing is that UF seems to be on the wrong side of these hires. Why wouldn't Muschamp work out? He was the most-Saban like Saban disciple until Kirby showed up. The Shark F*cker also succeeded with and without Saban. Mullen took the SECW doormat and made them competitive. That should have been a slam dunk at Florida.
Napier is entitled to three years to build his team, but early results aren't promising.
Florida may suffer from the same problem plaguing Texas and 8&Forfeit. No alignment. Too many powerful boosters. Head coach is answering to too many people. I can't think of another explanation why these three prime schools keep missing on sure things.
What is amazing is that UF seems to be on the wrong side of these hires. Why wouldn't Muschamp work out? He was the most-Saban like Saban disciple until Kirby showed up. The Shark F*cker also succeeded with and without Saban. Mullen took the SECW doormat and made them competitive. That should have been a slam dunk at Florida.
Napier is entitled to three years to build his team, but early results aren't promising.
Florida may suffer from the same problem plaguing Texas and 8&Forfeit. No alignment. Too many powerful boosters. Head coach is answering to too many people. I can't think of another explanation why these three prime schools keep missing on sure things.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:33 am to Between TheHedges
Who was the last "proven winner" HC that UGA hired?
Now I'm not saying UGA has not made good hires, but they just promoted Coordinators, not "proven winner" HCs.
Now I'm not saying UGA has not made good hires, but they just promoted Coordinators, not "proven winner" HCs.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:42 am to Between TheHedges
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Yes spurrier is now a legend. But when he was hired he was Duke’s coach and was rejected by many schools like lsu
A HUGE mistake on our part
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:51 am to Between TheHedges
Your obsession with Florida is once again noted.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:53 am to bulletprooftiger
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Napier is entitled to three years to build his team, but early results aren't promising. Florida may suffer from the same problem plaguing Texas and 8&Forfeit. No alignment. Too many powerful boosters. Head coach is answering to too many people. I can't think of another explanation why these three prime schools keep missing on sure things.
Good observations and I agree 100%
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Why wouldn't Muschamp work out? He was the most-Saban like Saban disciple until Kirby showed up. The Shark F*cker also succeeded with and without Saban. Mullen took the SECW doormat and made them competitive. That should have been a slam dunk at Florida.
Disagree with this part however.
These were poor hires that Florida made.
Muschamp is clearly not a good HC. He failed at not one but two SEC schools. Great defensive mind and DC, but doesn’t seem to see the big picture to be am effective coach at the SEC level.
What has shark Fricker been successful at without Saban? He had a few decent years at Colorado State, but has been mostly mediocre at CMU and is currently 2-6 and probably going to step down or get fired this year.
Mullen made Miss state competitive at what? He had one decent year with Sal Prescott but is a perennial 4-7 loss coach. There’s a reason why he was floridas 3rd choice after proven winners Chip Kelly and Scott frost(who ended up being a dud) rejected Florida for better programs.
I think you hit it on the head about Florida being a dysfunctional program, but those hires they made were dead on arrival and it’s becuase Florida is a second to third rate program that can only make Bargin bin hires like them and Napier
I’ll say this, they made a mistake firing Mullen and replacing him with Napier. Mullen is a poor coach but probably the best Florida can do now and they could have been a 7-9 win program with him while now they will struggle to be bowl eligible very year until they can sun belt billy
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:54 am to Between TheHedges
Spurrier isn’t a winner, he’s a quitter
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:54 am to Between TheHedges
This is your best thread yet.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:54 am to bulletprooftiger
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Florida may suffer from the same problem plaguing Texas and 8&Forfeit. No alignment. Too many powerful boosters. Head coach is answering to too many people. I can't think of another explanation why these three prime schools keep missing on sure things.
None of them were sure things. Nothing is ever a sure thing. Our administration doesn’t like paying players. Billy is finally breaking through that obstacle. If Muschamp would have been able to pay like Kirby we would have been golden. Champ spent all his salary cap on D. McElwain didn’t work hard, Mullen worked even less. We haven’t put a premium on getting better players until Napier. It may be too late.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:57 am to Between TheHedges
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I’ll say this, they made a mistake firing Mullen and replacing him with Napier. Mullen is a poor coach but probably the best Florida can do now and they could have been a 7-9 win program with him while now they will struggle to be bowl eligible very year until they can sun belt billy
If this turns out to not be true will you meet me at sonic?
Posted on 10/25/22 at 12:00 pm to Between TheHedges
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There’s a reason why he was floridas 3rd choice after proven winners Chip Kelly and Scott frost(who ended up being a dud) rejected Florida for better programs.
C’mon man. At least be a little honest. Scott Frost was never going anywhere other than Nebraska.
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