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re: Why Sooners are doomed in SEC.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 2:39 pm to OU Guy
Posted on 4/18/22 at 2:39 pm to OU Guy
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Trust me his stamp will be all over it. Lebby has O and Brent will have D.
When you get time go look at his coaching hires.
He hasn't coached a single game and you are claiming people are scared.
And the reason is because "trust me"
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:09 pm to HogsOfWar
In the direction college football is headed, OU or any SEC team will not have to be a top 4 to make a 12-team playoff. The SEC has dominated college football this century, and the expansion of adding Texas and OU only enhances the strength of the conference.
There isn't any reasonable College football fan who assumes OU will win conference titles as often in the SEC. But there are College football fans that are questioning the future. I am taking for granted the NIL money will largely remain unchecked, but the Supreme Court stated as much with a 9-0 vote.
The Transfer portal seems reasonable in a free country. The direction to repair the system will take original thought. I suspect the easiest way to improve the system is a tool that enables any football prospect to turn professional akin to baseball and Basketball.
That brings College football back to a sustainable model and an expanded playoff. A three-loss SEC team should look like a top 12 team in the future. When OU arrives in the SEC, they are in the same conference as the rest of the SEC teams. We get it. There is depth in the SEC, but all that will matter in the future is making the playoffs. Akin to the Big Dance. Playoffs bring money into a conference, so the SEC voted for conference expansion, not once but three times. Money fuels everything.
If nothing else, the SEC has made several intelligent business decisions that have caused some anxiety in the non-SEC schools.
There isn't any reasonable College football fan who assumes OU will win conference titles as often in the SEC. But there are College football fans that are questioning the future. I am taking for granted the NIL money will largely remain unchecked, but the Supreme Court stated as much with a 9-0 vote.
The Transfer portal seems reasonable in a free country. The direction to repair the system will take original thought. I suspect the easiest way to improve the system is a tool that enables any football prospect to turn professional akin to baseball and Basketball.
That brings College football back to a sustainable model and an expanded playoff. A three-loss SEC team should look like a top 12 team in the future. When OU arrives in the SEC, they are in the same conference as the rest of the SEC teams. We get it. There is depth in the SEC, but all that will matter in the future is making the playoffs. Akin to the Big Dance. Playoffs bring money into a conference, so the SEC voted for conference expansion, not once but three times. Money fuels everything.
If nothing else, the SEC has made several intelligent business decisions that have caused some anxiety in the non-SEC schools.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:13 pm to NorthPark
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In the direction college football is headed, OU or any SEC team will not have to be a top 4 to make a 12-team playoff. The SEC has dominated college football this century, and the expansion of adding Texas and OU only enhances the strength of the conference.
There isn't any reasonable College football fan who assumes OU will win conference titles as often in the SEC. But there are College football fans that are questioning the future. I am taking for granted the NIL money will largely remain unchecked, but the Supreme Court stated as much with a 9-0 vote.
The Transfer portal seems reasonable in a free country. The direction to repair the system will take original thought. I suspect the easiest way to improve the system is a tool that enables any football prospect to turn professional akin to baseball and Basketball.
That brings College football back to a sustainable model and an expanded playoff. A three-loss SEC team should look like a top 12 team in the future. When OU arrives in the SEC, they are in the same conference as the rest of the SEC teams. We get it. There is depth in the SEC, but all that will matter in the future is making the playoffs. Akin to the Big Dance. Playoffs bring money into a conference, so the SEC voted for conference expansion, not once but three times. Money fuels everything.
If nothing else, the SEC has made several intelligent business decisions that have caused some anxiety in the non-SEC schools.
So you think you'll be ok because they will expand the playoffs and that'll give Oklahoma a chance to beat the SEC teams they lost to during the season.
Because what we've seen from Oklahoma so far is they really come alive in the playoffs right?
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:17 pm to HogsOfWar
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OU has no idea what is about to hit them.
Oh woah are we..... what will we do.... how will we bear it..... gnashing of teeth
Not really worried about it.
Looking forward to when we are in the SEC and Excited about the matchups coming up in the future. Should make for some great games for everyone to watch.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:25 pm to 3down10
By all means, Bama is the top dog in CF, but OU is clearly not a bottom dweller, but to suggest otherwise because of a hunch?
I had a hunch Missouri would flat in the SEC but they have actually thrived. They already have as many SEC division titles as they do in the Big 12.
I had a hunch Missouri would flat in the SEC but they have actually thrived. They already have as many SEC division titles as they do in the Big 12.
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So you think you'll be ok because they will expand the playoffs and that'll give Oklahoma a chance to beat the SEC teams they lost to during the season.
Because what we've seen from Oklahoma so far is they really come alive in the playoffs right?
This post was edited on 4/18/22 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:35 pm to NorthPark
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By all means, Bama is the top dog in CF, but OU is clearly not a bottom dweller, but to suggest otherwise because of a hunch?
I had a hunch Missouri would flat in the SEC but they have actually thrived. They already have as many SEC division titles as they do in the Big 12.
There is limited success in the conference. They can add 100 teams to the conference, but the amount of success available remains the same.
No clue what the hell you are talking about with Mizzou. Are you saying because they won the SEC East a few years? The SEC East is much weaker than the west, and the years Mizzou won the East was even more down than normal.
Outside that, they have a total of 1 winning season. Their conference record is below .500, and again that is while playing on the weaker side of the SEC.
But hey, I guess if that is what you call thriving, then I guess yes, Oklahoma may "thrive".
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:43 pm to 3down10
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But hey, I guess if that is what you call thriving, then I guess yes, Oklahoma may "thrive".
I have repeatedly stated OU will be fine on this board. I will expand, OU is going to win some more Natties, Stop projecting what you think I meant to say.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 4:10 pm to NorthPark
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I have repeatedly stated OU will be fine on this board. I will expand, OU is going to win some more Natties, Stop projecting what you think I meant to say.
No, you claimed Mizzou had been thriving since coming into the SEC, even though their conference record is below .500.
It's been 22 years since Oklahoma won a national championship. And it's not due to a lack of chances, you were in the weaker Big12 with an easy path to the BCS championships and playoffs. In fact, you've been to like half the playoffs so far and have 0 wins to show for it. Constantly losing to SEC teams.
And yet somehow by some miracle Oklahoma is going to come into a tougher conference against the teams it keeps losing against in the playoffs and that's going to make it better.
Yeah, bullshite. Oklahoma will have to improve quite a bit otherwise you are going to be another also ran. And until you actually improve, you're just talking out your arse.
This post was edited on 4/18/22 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 4/18/22 at 4:43 pm to 3down10
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No, you claimed Mizzou had been thriving since coming into the SEC
I stated that
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I had a hunch Missouri would flat in the SEC, but they have thrived. They already have as many SEC division titles as they do in the Big 12.
The first thing I learned on this board is the only thing that matters is Nattie's, Conference titles, and Division titles. They won 2 SEC division titles within three years, which is the same amount they had in Big 12's history. Since I thought they would fall flat, I'd say they proved me wrong in a big way. I suspect that surprised most of the posters on this board. I bet if I dig, I can find some old threads.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 5:11 pm to NorthPark
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The first thing I learned on this board is the only thing that matters is Nattie's, Conference titles, and Division titles. They won 2 SEC division titles within three years, which is the same amount they had in Big 12's history. Since I thought they would fall flat, I'd say they proved me wrong in a big way. I suspect that surprised most of the posters on this board. I bet if I dig, I can find some old threads.
Nobody cares about division titles. Flaunting division titles is a good way to get made fun of.
Especially if it's an SEC East team.
If you are flaunting a division title, then it means your team lost the championship game.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 5:26 pm to 3down10
And yet there are many posts about who won a division title—especially in Football. The SEC championship game is one of the best games in the nation every year.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 5:42 pm to Zgeo
quote:One of the worst takes I’ve seen on here in a while
SArk ( SEC coach Prepared by Saban ) was supposed to dominate last year but he found out playing a Big 12 schedule is much harder than he assumed. Sark lost to Kansas at home, lol...Sark finished 5-7. Sark barely beat KSU at home to break a 6 game conference losing streak in he last game of the season. Espn pumps up the sec for obvious reasons. We are looking forward to being a beneficiary of the inflated ranking once we are in the SEC.....
Posted on 4/18/22 at 5:48 pm to DirtyDawg
If this fellow and his team aren’t going to take pride in the conference and do the SEC chant then maybe they are coming to the wrong place. The vast majority of SEC fans take great pleasure in letting the world know we are the SEC. We may talk trash and belittle each other but we are all members of the same conference. We have each other’s back when it matters. The SEC is a family. A very dysfunctional one but a family non the less. And it’s a great feeling to say that loud and clear to some team in the Big 10, ACC, etc. who has just had their head handed to them by an SEC program. We are members of the best conference in the country and we aren’t bashful about celebrating our greatness. If OU or UT don’t understand that, they should stay where they are. It won’t hurt our feelings one bit.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 6:14 pm to troyt37
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They will certainly get a bump in money, since they have made themselves the Longhorn's bitch for years. The SEC shares pretty much equally. But on the recruiting front, Texass and Oklahoma are going to be worked like a $2 whore by the best recruiters in the country. If you think it was bad before, just wait.
This is just moronic, OU is ALREADY top 10 recruiting w/o being in the SEC, according to everyone in here, joining the SEC can do nothing but improve that, so this statement just doesn't make sense.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 6:15 pm to NorthPark
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And yet there are many posts about who won a division title—especially in Football.
Where? I'm pretty sure you are reading troll posts where the point isn't to point out a teams success for winning them, but rather to point out the lack of success for a certain team who doesn't have them.
This post was edited on 4/18/22 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 4/18/22 at 8:52 pm to ReauxlTide222
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One of the worst takes I’ve seen on here in a while
Meanwhile, ESPN has Texas, a team with a losing record last year making the playoffs.
espN iS BIAsed To THE sec
Posted on 4/18/22 at 9:29 pm to HogsOfWar
By the time Okie and Ole Tex get to the SEC, the league's days will be numbered anyway. Any quest to prove their worth will likely be short-lived since a super conference is being envisioned. The SEC might as well take in Baylor and Okie St while they are at it.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 10:02 pm to dchog
quote:Maybe OU had a shot before the NIL but now things will even themself out. We already saw Arkansas take their top rated wide receiver. That will happen more and more. Arkansas boosters have way more money than OU boosters and imo we will take all those recruits that normally go to the big 12 because it's easier.
Like the Oklahoma situation, Ken Hatfield left before Arkansas joined the SEC just as Riley left Oklahoma before they will join the SEC. Arkansas hired the OC Jack Crowe, he got fired and Arkansas kept making bad hires. It wasn't until Petrino that Arkansas had a good coach
Posted on 4/18/22 at 10:42 pm to HogsOfWar
If A&M can come in here and be average, so can OU
Posted on 4/18/22 at 11:07 pm to Highheat
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re: Why Sooners are doomed in SEC.Posted on 4/18/22 at 5:42 pm to Zgeo
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SArk ( SEC coach Prepared by Saban ) was supposed to dominate last year but he found out playing a Big 12 schedule is much harder than he assumed. Sark lost to Kansas at home, lol...Sark finished 5-7. Sark barely beat KSU at home to break a 6 game conference losing streak in he last game of the season. Espn pumps up the sec for obvious reasons. We are looking forward to being a beneficiary of the inflated ranking once we are in the SEC.....
One of the worst takes I’ve seen on here in a while
Did not bother to page back to see which middle to low tier team the OP is a fan of. But obviously he is scared of Oklahoma ......
As far as the take , the Big 12 round robin where you play everyone every year is tougher than a schedule hand picked by the SE.c commissioner to insure 2 SEC teams come through the conference each year and also play FCS OOC and have multiple byes before rivalry games.....go ahead defend that.....lol.....
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