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re: 13 pages confirm: No one safe in Birmingham. tDecline is real. Move SEC HQ to Little Rock.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 9:52 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Posted on 3/24/22 at 9:52 am to Harry Rex Vonner
I find it strange when people think that their fandom should dictate not only how they feel about rival schools, but even the states those rival schools exist in.
I mean, Birmingham isn't even home to the University of Alabama nor Auburn University. UAB is there, sure, but that would be like hating Auburn and then deciding you hate Montgomery because of AUM.
I suppose it makes sense if you're the kind of person who claims New Orleans as an LSU fan because they happen to be in the same state, or Nashville if you're a Tennessee fan. Both are pretty absurd when you consider the fact that both of those cities already have their own, VERY large or prestigious universities within them.
The concept of "I must hate the state of Alabama because the Crimson Tide have kicked my team's arse for the last 10 years" is just odd to me. I mean, I can tease some of my Auburn fan friends about the city the university is in, but honestly Auburn's a great town. Most college towns that are campuses integrated into their cities often are, and if we're being honest the ones that are in large cities are judged differently. No one is going to look at the experience at Georgia Tech and the one at UGA and think, "These two things should be the same."
Suffice it to say, there's no reason to scream "I hate Birmingham!" other than to say, "I hate the entire state of Alabama because my team sucks and I want an entire state to blame for my woes."
I mean, Birmingham isn't even home to the University of Alabama nor Auburn University. UAB is there, sure, but that would be like hating Auburn and then deciding you hate Montgomery because of AUM.
I suppose it makes sense if you're the kind of person who claims New Orleans as an LSU fan because they happen to be in the same state, or Nashville if you're a Tennessee fan. Both are pretty absurd when you consider the fact that both of those cities already have their own, VERY large or prestigious universities within them.
The concept of "I must hate the state of Alabama because the Crimson Tide have kicked my team's arse for the last 10 years" is just odd to me. I mean, I can tease some of my Auburn fan friends about the city the university is in, but honestly Auburn's a great town. Most college towns that are campuses integrated into their cities often are, and if we're being honest the ones that are in large cities are judged differently. No one is going to look at the experience at Georgia Tech and the one at UGA and think, "These two things should be the same."
Suffice it to say, there's no reason to scream "I hate Birmingham!" other than to say, "I hate the entire state of Alabama because my team sucks and I want an entire state to blame for my woes."
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 9:55 am to skrayper
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Suffice it to say, there's no reason to scream "I hate Birmingham!" other than to say, "I hate the entire state of Alabama because my team sucks
Several Alabama fans in this thread saying Birmingham is rotten.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 9:58 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Another thing that happened was the death of the steel industry in America. B'ham was the single largest provider outside of Pittsburgh and towns like Hueytown, Bessemer, Midfield all boomed because of the plentiful, good paying jobs. The mills left for cheaper wages in other countries and there was no other industry in Birmingham. Very, very similar to what has happened to Detroit and the auto manufacturers. They left Detroit and it had nothing else.
Now, Birmingham's largest employer is UAB. Usually in a college town this is always the case but in a "city" thats usually a bad sign.
Now, Birmingham's largest employer is UAB. Usually in a college town this is always the case but in a "city" thats usually a bad sign.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:01 am to Hewonbyalot
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I'm over a half-century old, and have lived in the area that entire time, the first 35 in the city limits.... so I may be qualified for an opinion.
My spouse and I avoid it at all costs. Right now we live 20 miles outside city limits and we choose to drive twice that far to a couple of other cities for shopping, dining, and entertainment. The suburbs closest to us have deteriorated greatly over the last 10 years by the bleeding over of the Birmingham elements.
Those frequenting Birmingham and think it's cool are the hipsters, soyboys and the like. They love the outdoor park near the baseball stadium, the one with "Black Lives Matter" painted (with taxpayer money) along the entire street two blocks long.
The mayor is a young socialist who declared the city a "sanctuary city" when it was cool. He just instituted guaranteed income for single mothers (no employment required).
The suburbs nearby that everyone speaks of have become unaffordable with the cost-per-sq.foot. Live any further out and your commute is 30-45 minutes for a 7-mile drive.
Bham IS top-10 in the nation... at crime rate... actually top-5 I think. All of those trendy restaurants, nightspots, and microbrews that the soys love aren't safe after dark.
I know.
Where in the frick do you live ? You claim to drive somewhere else to shop, they don't have a Wal-mart or a Jacks within 5 miles of where you live? Because I think those are the only establishments you visit.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:02 am to AA7
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Please remain in Cullman or whatever quaint hell hole you reside in and leave the warzone to us
Birmingham = awesome
Cullman = Hellhole
BTW, you ever been to Cullman?
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 10:04 am
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:04 am to Referee
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And what about Morris Avenue? Supposedly one of the entertainment districts; there was a shooting there recently that made the news for several days, right? And what about the shootings (several different times) at the Galleria in Hoover? Birmingham is a wonderful place (to avoid)
I figured someone would bring up incidents in other areas, completely ignoring my statement when I said the vast majority of violent crime happens in other areas of the city. That doesn’t mean it can’t happen in Lakeview, or Crestwood, or Railroad Park, or Southside, or any of the other popular areas of the city. Those areas are not the war zones the city detractors pretend they are because they’re scared to visit them.
And not sure what the Galleria has to do with Birmingham. It’s in Hoover and unrelated to the topic we’re discussing. Even still, there have been 2 incidents of violent crime there over the past 5 or so years. That’s still pretty isolated, though there is a lot of petty crime there. Mostly vehicle break-ins.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:05 am to Hewonbyalot
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Birmingham = awesome
Cullman = Hellhole
Without question. You couldn’t pay me to live in that backwards town. And yes, I’ve been there.
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 10:06 am
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:07 am to Irons Puppet
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Where in the frick do you live ? You claim to drive somewhere else to shop, they don't have a Wal-mart or a Jacks within 5 miles of where you live? Because I think those are the only establishments you visit.
Movie theaters, major department stores, quality restaurants and grocery stores, hardware stores, sporting goods, need I go on... Dumbass.
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 10:14 am
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:08 am to Irons Puppet
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The national restaurant guide Zagat.com has ranked Birmingham No. 1 on its new list of America's Next Hot Food Cities.
Neat article. I agree that Birmingham deserves to be on a list of cities for best emerging/upcoming culinary scenes. What you said, however, and what we have been discussing all along is your claim that it is an overall top 10 scene in the country. Can you show me the list that shows where it stacks up in that classification with all of America’s established scenes? Or are you now saying that Durham and Oakland are also top 10 overall scenes in the country?
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:08 am to The Spleen
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I figured someone would bring up incidents in other areas, completely ignoring my statement when I said the vast majority of violent crime happens in other areas of the city
I live in Crestwood really close to where is meets Avondale and Woodlawn and have never had an issue. The worst thing that happens around me is porch pirates which is still uncommon and happens even in Mountain Brook. It’s hilarious how people assume all of Birmingham city is like Gate City or Ensley
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:12 am to The Spleen
The Galleria is relevant because all the Ham lovers are including the suburbs as the liveable and attreactive places.
Correct, Morris Avenue died a long time ago. The entertainment areas are Southside, Railroad Park (Black Lives Matter Plaza), Lakeview, Avondale, Crestwood. I'm not comfortable any of those places after dark... and I indeed have to go there after dark occasionally for business. I lived in two of those neighborhoods until 15 years ago. I'm not "scared" to go there. I've experienced the crime first-hand.
Correct, Morris Avenue died a long time ago. The entertainment areas are Southside, Railroad Park (Black Lives Matter Plaza), Lakeview, Avondale, Crestwood. I'm not comfortable any of those places after dark... and I indeed have to go there after dark occasionally for business. I lived in two of those neighborhoods until 15 years ago. I'm not "scared" to go there. I've experienced the crime first-hand.
This post was edited on 3/24/22 at 10:28 am
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:13 am to TouchdownTony
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Now, Birmingham's largest employer is UAB. Usually in a college town this is always the case but in a "city" thats usually a bad sign.
No, you are living in the 70s. UAB is the largest employer because UAB Medical Center is one of the biggest Medical Research Hospitals in the Country. There are also a lot of research companies that support UABs mission. That is where there is a big shift in America. Cities look for good paying white collar and the medical field is almost bulletproof to the economy. Cities that depend on Finance/Banking jobs will suffer when the economy takes a nosedive. Birmingham is almost Bidenproof.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:13 am to AA7
I grew up in Alabaster back when the population was less than 10,000. I visited a couple of years ago and I barely recognized the place.
Areas around Birmingham are exploding. Part of that are companies providing jobs within the city itself.
Areas around Birmingham are exploding. Part of that are companies providing jobs within the city itself.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:16 am to skrayper
Let’s see if we can get this thread to 10 pages so Harry will feel better about himself
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:16 am to I-59 Tiger
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LINK Why are you being so obtuse? Is it because you have to wet yourself since the argument is with an Auburn guy? No one in his or her right mind would argue about whether metro Birmingham has some bad spots are not.But you know good and well Birmingham proper has cultivated a solid reputation in the last decade as a restaurant destination.
No offense to you as you’re usually a solid poster, but the above makes absolutely zero sense relative to what I’ve said on this thread. I’ve said over and over here that Birmingham has an outstanding food scene. Everyone knows that. Particularly on a per capita basis. And I never said anything about its supposed bad parts. In fact I defended it from that little nancy who said it was like top 10 worst or most dangerous in the city.
ALL I’m saying is that anyone who puts it as a top 10 overall culinary destination in the country is a hayseed moron. Surely you don’t believe it’s THAT high do you?
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:17 am to Hewonbyalot
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Lakeview, Avondale, Crestwood. I'm not comfortable any of those places after dark... and I indeed have to go there after dark occasionally for business. I lived in two of those neighborhoods until 15 years ago. I'm not "scared" to go there. I've experienced the crime first-hand.
Damn, sounds like you are also afraid of sunny days if there are shade trees around. Lakeview, Avondale, Crestwood ? I guess you feel the same about Crestline Village, Mountain Brook Village or the Summit?
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:17 am to skrayper
The growth alabaster has had and the change in the football program over the past 10 years is crazy. They used to be one of the worst teams and now they’re a juggernaut. Out-Hoover’ing Hoover helps too
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:20 am to AA7
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The growth alabaster has had and the change in the football program over the past 10 years is crazy. They used to be one of the worst teams and now they’re a juggernaut. Out-Hoover’ing Hoover helps too
I was in the band back then, and we made the playoffs two of the four years I was there.
We got bounced in the first round both times.
But yeah, frick Hoover :p
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:24 am to thatthang
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ALL I’m saying is that anyone who puts it as a top 10 overall culinary destination in the country is a hayseed moron. Surely you don’t believe it’s THAT high do you?
Really, you are arguing against a subjective list even though there are list that show that Birmingham is a hot spot for food and even the Food Network agrees. Your only argument is that Birmingham is outside the Top 10 and your counter argument is that I only frequent Applebee's, so my judgement counters your fine dining taste.
Since you do not think that highly of Birmingham. Give us where you think Birmingham fits on your list. All us hayseeds are waiting with bated breath.
Posted on 3/24/22 at 10:25 am to Irons Puppet
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Avondale
Tell me you really don't look over your shoulder when walking 3 blocks to your car at 11pm
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I guess you feel the same about Crestline Village, Mountain Brook Village
No... crime enforced differently in those places, thus the undesirable elements are not comfortable there
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