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re: Stacy Searels (UNC OL) is the new UGA OL Coach

Posted on 2/28/22 at 6:24 pm to
Posted by icheerforgeorgia
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 6:24 pm to
2003 was a long time ago
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6950 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:28 pm to
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when he was here last time and I was not pleased with the Offensive line.


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coaching or lack of talent?


Richt never stressed OL talent or recruiting.
Posted by Dawgholio
Bugtussle
Member since Oct 2015
13047 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 5:21 am to
What a disappointment
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31968 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 7:05 am to
How many of Richt’s old assistants does that make now…that Kirby has rehired back to Georgia?

And Kirby himself is a former Richt assistant.

Is Kirby shifting from Sick Naban to Rark Micht for chapter2?? Stay tuned
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25895 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:33 am to
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Richt never stressed OL talent or recruiting.

That implies that Richt never wanted great OL.

The reality is that Richt wasnt good at OL recruiting a didnt know how to make it better. It boggles my mind when old dawg says that richt never tried. Lack of success is not the same as lack of want.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17563 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 10:30 am to
Regardless, our OL sucked.
Posted by bulldawger
Fish Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2010
2885 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 11:26 am to
I don't get get why some of you are whining about this hire.

There are some pretty damn good head coaches that thought he was good OL coach.

Pat Dye
Nick Saban
Mark Richt (twice)
Mack Brown (twice)
Frank Beamer
Kirby Smart

I dare you to find a better resume of coaches to work for.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17563 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 11:57 am to
Well, all we have to go on is his performance here. Which was shite.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 12:12 pm to
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I don't get get why some of you are whining about this hire.


2-3 year stints at pretty much every program. Look at performance over those windows for them and you'll see high quality OL play is decidedly not present in most scenarios.

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82 sacks in two seasons, 49 sacks in one season are daunting stats. Almost indefensible on the outside looking in.


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Not saying he's solely responsible, but there are some pretty big red flags, and it feels like settling on the heels of a natty rather than continuing to strive for improvement/growth. We missed on some candidates... but just find it hard to believe CSS was the best available.
Posted by SemperFiDawg
Member since Sep 2014
2282 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 1:05 pm to
Same here. And now I read he's lacking as a coach AND recruiter and has been underwhelming since leaving. Color me concerned. Not to mention multiple 2-3 year stints always moving lateral and not up. I'm gonna give this one 2 red flags.
This post was edited on 3/1/22 at 1:08 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86582 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 1:34 pm to
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Richt never stressed OL talent or recruiting.

That implies that Richt never wanted great OL.

The reality is that Richt wasnt good at OL recruiting a didnt know how to make it better. It boggles my mind when old dawg says that richt never tried. Lack of success is not the same as lack of want.




I have a hard time agreeing with this. The person quoted simply said richt never stressed OL recruiting, you then said it implies richt didn't want great OL.

I mean...I'm sure richt "wanted" to be great at every single position. That doens't change the fact that the quoted person said, in that Richt really didn't prioritize that position. He was an offensive guy his whole life and a former QB, so it's no surprise we prioritized skill position recruiting esepcially at QB as well. There were some years we only recruited a couple OL, and if memory serves I think there was one year where we literally signed zero OL. That 100% proves that richt must not have wanted great OLs too bad if he put that little attention onto the position.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25895 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 2:23 pm to
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Richt really didn't prioritize that position

I promise you, Richt was pulling in the absolute best linemen that he could.

He never ignored recruiting linemen.
He never made it less of a priority.
He never told a great lineman that he valued malcolm mitchell over the talents of a left guard.

What does it mean that he didnt prioritize the position?
Honestly?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25895 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 2:26 pm to
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That 100% proves that richt must not have wanted great OLs too bad if he put that little attention onto the position.



Richt was awful at roster management.
We had a year with 0 DBs as well.
The team has to field 5 linemen and 6 DBs at one time.

No one says that richt didnt value or prioritize DBs.
People do say that Richt fricked up his roster management over and over and over. He never learned from prior mistakes.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25895 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 2:32 pm to
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and if memory serves I think there was one year where we literally signed zero OL


I remember the year with no linemen (i think we had kolton houston coming back and a few other redshirt freshman). I dont remember the specifics of that class' targets and offers.

I do remember the DB class that screwed up. Richt actually outkicked his coverage. He had a habit of offering 1 kid at each spot. He would tell that 1 recruit how much he meant to us and how the other schools were throwing offers like candy at halloween. If we signed the recruit, we looked great (malcolm mitchell, jordan jenkins). When the recruit chooses bama or south carolina, we literally had no fallback option and the team decides to double up the following year.
Some of our worst classes under richt were going after the highest quality recruits. I remember that specifically at DB. I presume the same for OL.
Posted by dirty bastard
Delacroix, Georgia
Member since Aug 2020
2147 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 4:11 pm to
Terrible hire. We had bad OL when he was here last time. Couldn't recruit.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6950 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 10:02 pm to
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Richt never stressed OL talent or recruiting.


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The reality is that Richt wasnt good at OL recruiting a didnt know how to make it better. It boggles my mind when old dawg says that richt never tried.


I believe what I said is the same as what you said. Richt couldn't evaluate OL talent very well and never had an OL coach that could it either.
Posted by Kneehigh
Low Country
Member since Nov 2012
13301 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 10:28 pm to
I guess Kirby will recruit? That pos sure as frick can’t… absolute awful hire. Sorry…
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
21616 posts
Posted on 3/2/22 at 5:15 pm to
Searels did a solid job his first season. Of course, having Knowshon Moreno and Thomas Brown probably made them look better but they also had 3 freshmen starting. That unit also kinda reflected the team’s play - meh the first half of the season, and by the end was playing as well as any in the country.

Unfortunately, the OL wasn’t very good most of his remaining years on staff. I’ll give Smart the benefit of the doubt because he has elite talent now and if they suck this year, I trust that he’ll find a worthy replacement.
Posted by Coach7
GA
Member since Apr 2016
478 posts
Posted on 3/3/22 at 8:12 am to
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Might just be a talent issue at other places.


Seems hard to believe the talent at Texas and Miami was awful.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6950 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:42 am to
Searles is known as a strong run-blocking OL coach and an average pass-blocking coach. Given Kirby's desire for running the ball, this hire might make more sense.
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