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Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:31 am to Lucius Clay
*****If you are as tired of this as i am you might want to skip. Hopefully this ends it. Honestly? Lucius was not as bad as I remembered, but he was extremely persistent. Probably 75% of his posts the last month or two was about Stetson Bennett, belittling him and in some cases Kirby Smart. But Lucius, you asked for this so here it is****
ok. You asked:
ITDawg: We all know JT is much much more talented than Scoutie Stetson. Winning or losing tomorrow doesn’t change that Calling Stetson names to belittle him.
It Dawg again calling Stetson a name and questioning Kirby's decisions: Honestly, if Kirby’s assessment, is that Scoutie is more talented….then yes, I would want Kirby fired
Flatwoods Forrester said: They normally don't play backup to "less talented" players either.
And Lucius, you responded with:I agree...not normally. But they can and have for Kirby. Once such backup turned out to be a 1st round pick and is now a starting NFL QB. The less talented starter was 5th round, has washed out of two NFL teams and is on his 3rd practice squad.
IT again: Let’s go Scoutie!!!!
Nothing like a little ridicule, right?
DawgCountry: Most fans knew this was coming. You don’t win titles with someone like Stet. It was a good story against crappy teams
Hobnail Boot: You’re a fricking moron you retarded pos. You and Kirby. frick you
Hobnail again: Tell me more about how great the midget is.
Lucius, here is more of your obssession with Stetson's NFL ability...like thta has anything to do with whta he does in college:
I'm not sure Bennett will even warrant a look. Maybe he can slip into the 7th round or do a try out someplace.
Lucius narrative even though nobody said otherwise: I'm not sure Bennett will even warrant a look. Maybe he can slip into the 7th round or do a try out someplace.More NFL obsession.
Lucius on Kirby being a moron for not playing an NFL QB....like that matters:Secretly, if Kirby doesn't hate the fact that he's relying on an undersized, mediocre QB with virtually no interest from the NFL, while some other teams (Alabama...even Cincinnati for chris sake!) are starting projected 1st rounders at QB, than he would have to be a moron.In fairness...you did add this:He might be stubborn, he might not be as sharp as Saban, but he's not a moron.
Lucius:The narrative before the game from some is that Bennett's on par with Bryce Young, but not getting enough credit from media because he's an inch or two shorter and we don't throw as much. Remember...Bennett has #2 QBR in the country. Oooohhh ahhh...
Well, that comparison to Bryce Young has been proven to be a total joke.
A top five team shouldn't be relying on a QB like Bennett.Two points here. I never saw anybody say that Bennett was on par with Young, and we all know that Bennett is not 2" shorter than Young.
Peter Buck said this:Either way, Stet will move onAnd you responded with this:Please tell us that's happening after this season!
ITDawg continues:We all know JT is much much more talented than Scoutie Stetson. Winning or losing this past Saturday doesn’t change that
Lucius:I think it's reasonable to question a coach that has lost every time he's played Alabama, especially when this last instance was an unexpected bed shitting.Sometimes you might have to be patien and have a little faith in your coach and team.
Lucius:If the SECCG didn't show the difference between an elite QB and an average one, nothing will. Fair enough. Question. You wanted to judge them after one game. (SECCG) Is it safe to say Bryce Young is no good and Bennett is better based on one game? (National Championship game) Ogf course not. But that's what you wanted to argue. That and if Bennett was NFL worthy.
Lucius...more hot takes and NFL potential obsession:I didn't realize that Baker Mayfield made a stop at UGA. But Kirby prefers to go with whoever has the least NFL potential, so I suspect Baker Mayfield might have fallen out of favor.
HobNail Boot floating a conspiracy that Kirby faked report about JT Daniels having covid:Just Kirby prepping excuses not to play the better QB
And your response?:It is a little suspicious. I mean, out of 85 players - more if you count non-scholarship - he's the one guy who happens to get COVID? And they happen to leak this information to the media, too?
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Maybe you should name posters if you're going to say, "y'all." I never said that we couldn't win the big game. In fact, I predicted multiple times that we would win. Feel free to go through threads if you would like to verify that.
ok. You asked:
ITDawg: We all know JT is much much more talented than Scoutie Stetson. Winning or losing tomorrow doesn’t change that Calling Stetson names to belittle him.
It Dawg again calling Stetson a name and questioning Kirby's decisions: Honestly, if Kirby’s assessment, is that Scoutie is more talented….then yes, I would want Kirby fired
Flatwoods Forrester said: They normally don't play backup to "less talented" players either.
And Lucius, you responded with:I agree...not normally. But they can and have for Kirby. Once such backup turned out to be a 1st round pick and is now a starting NFL QB. The less talented starter was 5th round, has washed out of two NFL teams and is on his 3rd practice squad.
IT again: Let’s go Scoutie!!!!
Nothing like a little ridicule, right?
DawgCountry: Most fans knew this was coming. You don’t win titles with someone like Stet. It was a good story against crappy teams
Hobnail Boot: You’re a fricking moron you retarded pos. You and Kirby. frick you
Hobnail again: Tell me more about how great the midget is.
Lucius, here is more of your obssession with Stetson's NFL ability...like thta has anything to do with whta he does in college:
I'm not sure Bennett will even warrant a look. Maybe he can slip into the 7th round or do a try out someplace.
Lucius narrative even though nobody said otherwise: I'm not sure Bennett will even warrant a look. Maybe he can slip into the 7th round or do a try out someplace.More NFL obsession.
Lucius on Kirby being a moron for not playing an NFL QB....like that matters:Secretly, if Kirby doesn't hate the fact that he's relying on an undersized, mediocre QB with virtually no interest from the NFL, while some other teams (Alabama...even Cincinnati for chris sake!) are starting projected 1st rounders at QB, than he would have to be a moron.In fairness...you did add this:He might be stubborn, he might not be as sharp as Saban, but he's not a moron.
Lucius:The narrative before the game from some is that Bennett's on par with Bryce Young, but not getting enough credit from media because he's an inch or two shorter and we don't throw as much. Remember...Bennett has #2 QBR in the country. Oooohhh ahhh...
Well, that comparison to Bryce Young has been proven to be a total joke.
A top five team shouldn't be relying on a QB like Bennett.Two points here. I never saw anybody say that Bennett was on par with Young, and we all know that Bennett is not 2" shorter than Young.
Peter Buck said this:Either way, Stet will move onAnd you responded with this:Please tell us that's happening after this season!
ITDawg continues:We all know JT is much much more talented than Scoutie Stetson. Winning or losing this past Saturday doesn’t change that
Lucius:I think it's reasonable to question a coach that has lost every time he's played Alabama, especially when this last instance was an unexpected bed shitting.Sometimes you might have to be patien and have a little faith in your coach and team.
Lucius:If the SECCG didn't show the difference between an elite QB and an average one, nothing will. Fair enough. Question. You wanted to judge them after one game. (SECCG) Is it safe to say Bryce Young is no good and Bennett is better based on one game? (National Championship game) Ogf course not. But that's what you wanted to argue. That and if Bennett was NFL worthy.
Lucius...more hot takes and NFL potential obsession:I didn't realize that Baker Mayfield made a stop at UGA. But Kirby prefers to go with whoever has the least NFL potential, so I suspect Baker Mayfield might have fallen out of favor.
HobNail Boot floating a conspiracy that Kirby faked report about JT Daniels having covid:Just Kirby prepping excuses not to play the better QB
And your response?:It is a little suspicious. I mean, out of 85 players - more if you count non-scholarship - he's the one guy who happens to get COVID? And they happen to leak this information to the media, too?
This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 9:44 am
Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:31 am to DawgsLife
cont.
Lucius and NFL capabilities: It's embarrassing to trot out a guy with no NFL capabilities when we are a top 3 recruiting power every year under Smart.
Lucius: Kirby has shown what he's about. He wants teams that win by a dominating defense and a QB who hits a few plays a game but mostly doesn't screw up. He probably figures, tighten the D back to what it looked like during the season, don't ask Bennett to be more than he is, and that's a good formula. That "formula" seemed to work okay.
retooc:Stet has done has been good enough to win a lot of football games.Your response?:Beating mediocre opponents courtesy of our dominating defense and major help from Brock Bowers doesn't count.
Unless 1) He can put a team on his shoulders and win when our defense is struggling and 2) the NFL thinks he's pro material, he shouldn't be playing QB for an elite program.Your obsession with the NFL still permeates your posts.
Do you have any idea how many QBs have not gone to the NFL and are in the top 10 in the country for yards passing? The NFL quality is good, but that is not the only gauge of a college QB ability.
Lucius:What's obvious is that the $8 million a year genius Kirby better win the next two games if he's sticking with Bennett or his credibility will be circling the drain.How is Kirby's credibility as a coach compared to yours?
Lucius calling Stetson "Hot Garbage":Doesn't mean the fan base can't continue to point out that Stet is hot garbage compared to higher tier QBs. Like the ones other CFP teams are starting
Lucius and more NFL Obsession:It also matters that other than his small cult - who appear to be mainly old crackers - the majority of the fan base acknowledge that Stetson Bennett is a mediocre quarterback. He's been carried on the strengths of a very talented team around him, and as a 6th year senior, it's telling that there hasn't been a peep of NFL interest in him.
Lucius...crazy you can say this about Stetson Bennett in making a case he is "garbage" yet say Bryce Young is great, in spite of Alabama having a talent advantage according to 247:The more objective fan base recognizes that he is the weakest link on a team deep with NFL talent on both sides of the roster. That doesn't mean he's bad. It just means he owes everything to an OL with multiple future NFL players, the best TE in the country, NFL backs, and basically 4-star and 5-star players everywhere else. I laughed when I saw you called yourself a part of the "more objective fan base".
A poster said this:Seriously I have to know why.
We are all bulldogs and regardless of what QB you go for...you have to be happy with tonight Wehad just beaten Michigan, and you were still focused and spewing Stetson hate and hatred for anybody that supported Bennett:Because those two are Stetson Bennett fans much more than UGA fans.
Think groupies...except imagine old guys with dip cups swooning over a college kid.
And yet in spite of beating Michigan you are more focused on people pulling for Bennett....and you think you are a Georgia fan because you whined and cried all through the season.
Barstools responded to you:Still shitting on the QB that took us to the Natty. Are you sure you're actually a UGA fan?
Lucius on Kirby being racist:Mathis got pulled after one game and was never given a chance or seen again. Fields...well...we know what happened there. Kirby definitely did not like his attitude of wanting a real chance at starting. I suspect he was too "uppity" for Kirby. Which is why I would be shocked to see someone like Caleb Williams wanting to play for him.
I'm tired of pouring through this garbage. I'm sure there is more. I also am not going through a bunch more to find other posters saying "Bennett can't win THE big game!" etc. It's tiring and I'm sure everybody else is tired of this. I would rather forget about this, and wish I could.
I think there is plenty examples provided though, and I can assure you that I left some others alone. There were plenty more from you and others. I am thinking y'all did not fathom how relentless it had become. You let Peter and Jefferson trigger you and it became a contest to show the others up.
Lucius and NFL capabilities: It's embarrassing to trot out a guy with no NFL capabilities when we are a top 3 recruiting power every year under Smart.
Lucius: Kirby has shown what he's about. He wants teams that win by a dominating defense and a QB who hits a few plays a game but mostly doesn't screw up. He probably figures, tighten the D back to what it looked like during the season, don't ask Bennett to be more than he is, and that's a good formula. That "formula" seemed to work okay.
retooc:Stet has done has been good enough to win a lot of football games.Your response?:Beating mediocre opponents courtesy of our dominating defense and major help from Brock Bowers doesn't count.
Unless 1) He can put a team on his shoulders and win when our defense is struggling and 2) the NFL thinks he's pro material, he shouldn't be playing QB for an elite program.Your obsession with the NFL still permeates your posts.
Do you have any idea how many QBs have not gone to the NFL and are in the top 10 in the country for yards passing? The NFL quality is good, but that is not the only gauge of a college QB ability.
Lucius:What's obvious is that the $8 million a year genius Kirby better win the next two games if he's sticking with Bennett or his credibility will be circling the drain.How is Kirby's credibility as a coach compared to yours?
Lucius calling Stetson "Hot Garbage":Doesn't mean the fan base can't continue to point out that Stet is hot garbage compared to higher tier QBs. Like the ones other CFP teams are starting
Lucius and more NFL Obsession:It also matters that other than his small cult - who appear to be mainly old crackers - the majority of the fan base acknowledge that Stetson Bennett is a mediocre quarterback. He's been carried on the strengths of a very talented team around him, and as a 6th year senior, it's telling that there hasn't been a peep of NFL interest in him.
Lucius...crazy you can say this about Stetson Bennett in making a case he is "garbage" yet say Bryce Young is great, in spite of Alabama having a talent advantage according to 247:The more objective fan base recognizes that he is the weakest link on a team deep with NFL talent on both sides of the roster. That doesn't mean he's bad. It just means he owes everything to an OL with multiple future NFL players, the best TE in the country, NFL backs, and basically 4-star and 5-star players everywhere else. I laughed when I saw you called yourself a part of the "more objective fan base".
A poster said this:Seriously I have to know why.
We are all bulldogs and regardless of what QB you go for...you have to be happy with tonight Wehad just beaten Michigan, and you were still focused and spewing Stetson hate and hatred for anybody that supported Bennett:Because those two are Stetson Bennett fans much more than UGA fans.
Think groupies...except imagine old guys with dip cups swooning over a college kid.
And yet in spite of beating Michigan you are more focused on people pulling for Bennett....and you think you are a Georgia fan because you whined and cried all through the season.
Barstools responded to you:Still shitting on the QB that took us to the Natty. Are you sure you're actually a UGA fan?
Lucius on Kirby being racist:Mathis got pulled after one game and was never given a chance or seen again. Fields...well...we know what happened there. Kirby definitely did not like his attitude of wanting a real chance at starting. I suspect he was too "uppity" for Kirby. Which is why I would be shocked to see someone like Caleb Williams wanting to play for him.
I'm tired of pouring through this garbage. I'm sure there is more. I also am not going through a bunch more to find other posters saying "Bennett can't win THE big game!" etc. It's tiring and I'm sure everybody else is tired of this. I would rather forget about this, and wish I could.
I think there is plenty examples provided though, and I can assure you that I left some others alone. There were plenty more from you and others. I am thinking y'all did not fathom how relentless it had become. You let Peter and Jefferson trigger you and it became a contest to show the others up.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:43 am to DawgsLife
The tell was when they fell in line with the narrative of a clear troll. Makes you wonder.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 1:59 pm to DawgsLife
It's a bit pathetic that you would spend so much time on this but I'm also somewhat flattered. Reading through, I stand by all statements. We won with Bennett, but not because of Bennett. He was in the right place at the right time.
I'm sorry that your authoritarian tendencies are triggered by your inability to control or stifle the opinions of others.
You never could find a statement about UGA not being able to win the big game with Bennett, since I never made such a statement. (You also conveniently omitted my several predictions that we would win the title game). But this isn't inconsistent, since I give Bennett only a small share of credit for this season.
In addition to his intrinsic skill limitations with respect to the big league, we got see a not-so-good look from Bennett when he made a veiled threat to not return to UGA for another season unless assured to start and that no transfer portal player is going to be brought in. Interesting that he didn't want to have to compete anymore. And of course, all indications are that Kirby will go along with that, per rumors that Daniels will be departing and that Kirby didn't pursue Caleb Williams or Jaxon Dart (either of whom would have sent Bennett back to back-up status). We may actually have the oldest starting QB in college football next year. What's puzzling is that if he's so good, why isn't he declaring for the draft or planning for a tryout at 25?
In any event, keep on truckin'! 50,000 posts and counting.
I'm sorry that your authoritarian tendencies are triggered by your inability to control or stifle the opinions of others.
You never could find a statement about UGA not being able to win the big game with Bennett, since I never made such a statement. (You also conveniently omitted my several predictions that we would win the title game). But this isn't inconsistent, since I give Bennett only a small share of credit for this season.
In addition to his intrinsic skill limitations with respect to the big league, we got see a not-so-good look from Bennett when he made a veiled threat to not return to UGA for another season unless assured to start and that no transfer portal player is going to be brought in. Interesting that he didn't want to have to compete anymore. And of course, all indications are that Kirby will go along with that, per rumors that Daniels will be departing and that Kirby didn't pursue Caleb Williams or Jaxon Dart (either of whom would have sent Bennett back to back-up status). We may actually have the oldest starting QB in college football next year. What's puzzling is that if he's so good, why isn't he declaring for the draft or planning for a tryout at 25?
In any event, keep on truckin'! 50,000 posts and counting.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 2:01 pm to Peter Buck
quote:
they fell in line
For someone not often on here, I must be a heck of an influencer! You mean JT won the GSB straw poll 68-8 because of me? That's incredible!
Posted on 1/17/22 at 2:27 pm to Lucius Clay
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For someone not often on here, I must be a heck of an influencer! You mean JT won the GSB straw poll 68-8 because of me? That's incredible!
Was talking about Shocktroop, but your response is telling.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 2:41 pm to Lucius Clay
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It's a bit pathetic that you would spend so much time on this but I'm also somewhat flattered.
Crap dude. You more or less denied everything and said I was a liar if I didn't do it. Yes. I spent a lot of time to clear my reputation.
quote:He threw a pass to Pickens that got us kick started and in scoring position.
We won with Bennett, but not because of Bennett
He threw a dime to AD Mitchell that was perfectly placed.
The TD he threw to Bowers was a MUCH tougher pass than many realize.
quote:As I have said many times, and you obviously can't comprehend...Give an opinion. It was your constant harping on Bennett that I objected to. The sheer number on posts shows exactly what I am talking about. And I didn't post nearly all of them.
I'm sorry that your authoritarian tendencies are triggered by your inability to control or stifle the opinions of others.
quote:And there you go again. You must be a Democrat. Repeat something often enough and hope everybody believes it. I never said you made that comment. But it was certainly made by the crew you decided to hook up with.
You never could find a statement about UGA not being able to win the big game with Bennett, since I never made such a statement.
quote:But that was never the question, was it? It was your continually and constant attacks on Bennett and Kirby Smart that I had a problem with.
(You also conveniently omitted my several predictions that we would win the title game).
No. I am not going to allow you to control the narrative.
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But this isn't inconsistent, since I give Bennett only a small share of credit for this season.
We are all fully aware that you won't give Bennett credit. For
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In addition to his intrinsic skill limitations with respect to the big league,
Drop it, man. Just drop it. here you go with the NFL non narrative. You are the only person concerned with Bennett going to the NFL. the 1000 time you have made us all aware.
Honest question. Are you autistic? You seem to zero in on points that nobody is making and can't seem to get past those.
quote:
In any event, keep on truckin'! 50,000 posts and counting.
Yeah. So? I'm retired and I can spend my time and energy any way I want. I might hit 100,00 before I finish. Why do you care?
Posted on 1/17/22 at 2:55 pm to DawgsLife
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Lucius on Kirby being racist:Mathis got pulled after one game and was never given a chance or seen again.
Lucius must have been looking for his Skoal can when Mathis played in the Florida game in 2020. 4 of 13 for 34 yards, 1 TD, 3 Int., 3 sacks.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:00 pm to Lucius Clay
Stetson Bennett: MVP Natioanl Championship Game
Lucius Clay:
Impart us with more of your infinite wisdom, Lucius!
ETA
Btw...he was also MVP of the Orange Bowl, too against Michigan. "We won with Bennett, not because of Bennett."
Lucius Clay:
quote:
We won with Bennett, but not because of Bennett.
Impart us with more of your infinite wisdom, Lucius!
ETA
Btw...he was also MVP of the Orange Bowl, too against Michigan. "We won with Bennett, not because of Bennett."
This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:02 pm to AlaCowboy
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Lucius must have been looking for his Skoal can when Mathis played in the Florida game in 2020. 4 of 13 for 34 yards, 1 TD, 3 Int., 3 sacks.
Lucius Clay lives in a world in which the sky is purple and it rains lollipops all day every day.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:07 pm to Lucius Clay
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Reading through, I stand by all statements.
You still standing by this one?
Lucius:If the SECCG didn't show the difference between an elite QB and an average one, nothing will.
So if you stand by this statement.....what did the National Championship Game show? Stetson Bennett won the MVP award. What does one game show, Lucius?
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:17 pm to DawgsLife
Has any QB won the MVP back to back, while beating the #1 and #2 teams back to back? Thats pretty awesome. Right?
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:17 pm to K9
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think not. The losers that bitched all year didn't let it go until Stetson forced them too. They shouldn't get off the hook that easy. Hopefully rubbing your nose in the shite you left all across this board will make you think twice next time.
I’ll admit it your right
This post was edited on 1/17/22 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:46 pm to Peter Buck
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Has any QB won the MVP back to back, while beating the #1 and #2 teams back to back? Thats pretty awesome. Right?
If I had to guess, I would say it has not happened....but I'm not sure.
"We won with Bennett, not because of Bennett."
10,000 comedians are out of work and Lucius wants to tell jokes.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 3:48 pm to SCDawg95
No offense...but I can't tell who was saying what in your post. 
Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:01 pm to DawgsLife
Yeah sorry I forgot to to quote K9s post darn phone
Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:16 pm to SCDawg95
quote:
Yeah sorry I forgot to to quote K9s post darn phone
I'm old and would be lost trying to do this board from a phone.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:19 pm to DawgsLife
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What does one game show, Lucius?
Ha! It shows that if you have enough NFL talent all over your team and they have the right game plan and the motivation, you can win a national title and a MVP with Greyson Lambert or Joe Cox...any serviceable quarterback.
Posted on 1/17/22 at 4:29 pm to SCDawg95
quote:
Yeah sorry I forgot to to quote K9s post darn phone
See you corrected it. So you were a naysayer, and came back to say you admit you were wrong?
Respect. I think that is all most of us want. (If I misunderstood, then I apologize)
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