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Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:21 pm to
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Bill O'Brien to Patriots discussion continues after Josh McDaniels' exit to Raiders (247)



100% expected this to happen if the Pats lost Josh McDaniels to the HC job market.

I wouldn't be surprised if this all falls into place pretty quickly. Pats hire BOB. Alabama already has the replacement tapped but it will conveniently fall sometime after NSD to not screw their current employer. Just a hunch.
Posted by artompkins
Orange Beach, Al
Member since May 2010
5618 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 1:25 pm to
And I'm saying if you knew any of the history of the interworkings at Tennessee where Alabama may somehow be remotely concerned you wouldn't believe a word any of them said. None of them can be trusted a lick.
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 1:26 pm
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15715 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:29 pm to
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Are you some kind of Tennessee sympathizer or something?


Supporting the idea that Tennessee and Pruitt are facing potential severe NCAA sanctions is a pretty strange way for a sympathizer to act.

It's as simple as this - for the longest I thought it was 50/50 that 'violations' were being used as a convenient excuse to get rid of Pruitt. Then his attorney loudly and publicly declared "If UT doesn't come to the table and settle by X date we're going to be filing a suit and it will all burn down."

Tennessee's reply was "make your move." The deadline came, no suit was filed then and still hasn't been months later. There's not much way to read that other than Pruitt's side was bluffing. He either didn't have the goods or (more likely) was so deeply involved in whatever happened that he can't take down the Vols without destroying any reputation he's got left.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19711 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:36 pm to
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Tennessee's reply was "make your move." The deadline came, no suit was filed then and still hasn't been months later. There's not much way to read that other than Pruitt's side was bluffing. He either didn't have the goods or (more likely) was so deeply involved in whatever happened that he can't take down the Vols without destroying any reputation he's got left.
and vice versa, if they have something on it they would have brought the evidence out. seems if they have it, its so damaging to them they cant use it. They are trying to use the impression that it exists to get out of paying him but cant actually follow through. pruitt is a dumbasss but hes an outstanding DC. if the ncaa hammer is not evere going ot drop, i see no reason not to bring him back. he doesnt have a show cause, and if something like that comes down later, well we move on from him. hes the best DC we have had under saban
Posted by RollingStonesTider
Member since Jan 2022
29 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 2:52 pm to
Thanks, Boz! Really glad you're back to posting again (after the whole AHM stupidity).
We are aware (or should be...) that what you post are just things you hear (they're not predictions or announcements), but your posts are exactly the kind of stuff we are looking for here.

Coaching staff is shaping up together nicely. If there's any way at all to add Pruitt I'm all in. He brings the kind of attitude and intensity that our D seems to be lacking under Golding.

If BoB indeed leaves for the Pats, should Joe Brady be our next OC? He only was passing game coordinator at LSU (not OC) and the run game was an issue for him at the Panthers. Any thoughts? Or names that are better options?
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 3:26 pm
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
4364 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 3:05 pm to
Joe Brady is not coming to Alabama.
he is inexperienced and he never was OC at LSU. He struggled with Panthers.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5974 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

And I'm saying if you knew any of the history of the interworkings at Tennessee where Alabama may somehow be remotely concerned you wouldn't believe a word any of them said. None of them can be trusted a lick.



Regardless, until the NCAA publishes something that finalizes the allegations against Pruitt there is nary a reputable power 5 school that will hire him as an on-field assistant.

I would assume that the schools have some sort of compliance process that would involve asking the NCAA about ongoing investigations related to the prospective hire. They aren't just taking Knoxville's word for it.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35446 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 4:06 pm to
Joe Brady just becomes more underwhelming as the days pass. He doesn't recruit, didn't call plays at LSU, had what looks to be a generational talent at QB propping him up at LSU, and got fired 1.5 seasons into being an NFL OC.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44400 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 4:33 pm to
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Joe Brady just becomes more underwhelming as the days pass. He doesn't recruit, didn't call plays at LSU, had what looks to be a generational talent at QB propping him up at LSU, and got fired 1.5 seasons into being an NFL OC.


He and Rhule also put their heads together and decided that Sam Darnold was worth multiple valuable draft picks even after spending a week with Mac at the Senior Bowl. He may or may not possess a strong football mind (I don't believe for a second that Steve Ensminger installed all of the play designs and formations they used in 2019), but for now he's looking like Kiffin did 15 years ago. Credited with too much too soon and it led to him getting a job he wasn't yet qualified for. Now the question is whether he gets a couple more of them.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11458 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 4:40 pm to
For those still questioning if there is or is not an NCAA investigation going on in Knoxville, if it's as bad as UT has alleged it is, there would be much more info leaking out and UT would be self-imposing penalties to try and lessen the blow. The fact that the investigation has become as quiet as a tomb, and no Notice of Allegations has been received would imply that UT is either about to get hammered for their lack of self imposed penalties or there's not as much to the violations as they would have people believe. The only thing that would give me cause for concern is the fact that Pruitt is still unemployed and has not received any interest from anyone. That is certainly concerning.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

Joe Brady just becomes more underwhelming as the days pass. He doesn't recruit, didn't call plays at LSU, had what looks to be a generational talent at QB propping him up at LSU, and got fired 1.5 seasons into being an NFL OC.




He would do well in the college game again I bet - he just isn't seasoned and his offense isn't complex enough to succeed in the NFL like he did at LSU.

The NFL defenses are just far, far superior than most college defenses and you have to be very unpredictable to confuse them. You need more motions, double moves, rub routes, rpos, and pre snap eye candy to succeed. Sure, NFL offenses also require talent to rise up and beat their man - but that is because despite all the above, it is really hard to scheme people wide open.

But if you don't have a complex enough offense and the defense knows what to expect, you can't even get out of the blocks - this was Brady's issue from what I have read and seen. In college, he gets away with it as you only need to incorporate a few of those things to start confusing defenses.
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 5:01 pm
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9450 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 5:46 pm to
I don't think anyone will get "hammered" by the NCAA anymore. NIL aborted the NCAA as we knew it. So, I doubt any serious sanctions will be placed on Tennessee.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 5:54 pm to
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didn't call plays at LSU,


I don’t believe that at all. I know that’s what LSU fans love to say but it’s BS. Ens was awful before him and awful after him.
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 5:55 pm
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 5:57 pm to
I think everyone said he called plays at least on 3rd down -I dont' think 2019 happens without ENS as he had a lot of experience in terms of running an offenses as OC, protocols, operations, etc. but the magic was definitely coming from Brady bringing in concepts from the saints.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

think everyone said he called plays at least on 3rd down -I dont' think 2019 happens without ENS as he had a lot of experience in terms of running an offenses as OC, protocols, operations, etc. but the magic was definitely coming from Brady bringing in concepts from the saints.


This all could be true. I just think anyone who’s trying to discount him because of how good Burrow is now forgot how bad Burrow was in 2018 with Ens.
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
4364 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 6:03 pm to
You forgot Burrow was good in 3rd down situations this past weekend... Burrow is that good. He can have a shitty coach and still make the coach look good.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 6:06 pm to
Ya, Burrow is clearly as good as advertised but still have to have a strong scheme to generate the kind of offensive output they had that year.

I think we could definitely do worse - Nick Saban has enough offensive knowledge at this point to guide brady into our system and let him put his own flair on it.

BoB would have been absolutely fine with a better oline performance, hell he technically was fine looking at our output and what we likely would have done without injury - but that's football.

I'd honestly rather have somebody else as Brady probably would jump for the NFL (he has quashed most rumors about a return to college from what I have seen) and I'd like some stability if possible.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

You forgot Burrow was good in 3rd down situations this past weekend... Burrow is that good. He can have a shitty coach and still make the coach look good.


Do you remember Burrow in 2018? Awful.
Do you know who made Burrow and his receivers complete 1000 passes in the summer? Brady.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

I'd honestly rather have somebody else as Brady probably would jump for the NFL (he has quashed most rumors about a return to college from what I have seen) and I'd like some stability if possible.


I think Saban wants that too. I honestly could see Brady sticking it out in college for a while if he does have to recruit. I guess we’ll see
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26991 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

Regardless, until the NCAA publishes something that finalizes the allegations against Pruitt there is nary a reputable power 5 school that will hire him as an on-field assistant.



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