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Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 11:51 am to
Have we always, as a collective, been this obsessed about true freshman playing and contributing? I feel like this is relatively new. I guess the 2017 class just kind of reset expectations for some people?
Posted by colbyjacks
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 11:59 am to
May have to do with 2 studs competing for a spot where the incumbent is poor at his job.
Posted by Tw1st3d
Member since Jul 2017
776 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 12:00 pm to
skill players can step in right away if they have the HS development and smarts to grasp the required learning to operate in a complex environment like Alabama. Less complex systems are just give Jimmy and let him run away for Joe.

O-line / D-line require a level of power that 18 year old frames rarely possess and mental development that take 2 or 3 years to catch up to. Blitz pick-up, pass-of and swing or shift, reach, tandem and slip, zone blocking, man-up blocking, hand placement, tight area warfare. The learning curve in the tenches on both sides is huge.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11670 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 12:01 pm to
Coaching staffs (everywhere) have to rethink their approach in how they attempt to build a team due to the one and done situation. The old redshirt deal and 5 years seems to be a lost cause.

I see the barn is on a bring back everybody for a 6th year is the plan. They must have some NIL deals setup for them hoping to get them thru the 2022 season.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 12:02 pm to
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Have we always, as a collective, been this obsessed about true freshman playing and contributing? I feel like this is relatively new. I guess the 2017 class just kind of reset expectations for some people?


I think ever since Saban started recruiting at a high level people have been obsessed with it. Kind of like everyone loving the backup QB. People see stars and they automatically assume the guy is going to be a stud. Many times they are, but rarely are they studs right away. When occasionally that happens, maybe the expectation rises.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 12:03 pm to
The 2019 season showed me all I need to know about having to depend on two many true freshman.

That defense had 5 or 6 true freshman that had to start or play significant time due to injuries.
Posted by DLev45
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 12:16 pm to
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Have we always, as a collective, been this obsessed about true freshman playing and contributing? I feel like this is relatively new. I guess the 2017 class just kind of reset expectations for some people?


It's aggravating, the say the least, and even more aggravating when people use our stud draft picks' college careers as revisionist history for what they actually were as freshmen.

Reuben Foster (1st round) played in 6 games and had 12 tackles as a freshman.

Rashaan Evans (1st round) played in 9 games as a freshman and had 14 tackles and 1 sack.

Damien Harris (3rd round) had 46 carries for 157 yards and 1 TD as a freshman.

Jonathan Allen (1st round) appeared in 7 games with 15 tackles and 0.5 sacks.

Daron Payne (1st round) appeared in 8 games with 13 tackles and 0.5 sacks.

Marlon Humphrey (1st round) redshirted as a freshman.

We have regularly had freshman 5-stars not make immediate impacts and go on to be 1st round draft picks.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 12:22 pm to
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Have we always, as a collective, been this obsessed about true freshman playing and contributing? I feel like this is relatively new. I guess the 2017 class just kind of reset expectations for some people?


Yes, but I think that 2017 class showing out in the natty really amped up the subsequent calls for freshmen to start. People also want freshmen to start because this isn't pro football and it really sucks when dudes ride the bench for a couple of years, have one great season, and go pro. I will say though that the lack of major contributions from freshmen this year is a bit worrisome. Certainly nothing to be seriously concerned about, but with all the injuries and struggles from certain positions I was admittedly a bit disappointed that Turner and kinda sorta Kool-aid and Brooks were the only ones who were able to take advantage of the opportunity.
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 1:43 pm to
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Have we always, as a collective, been this obsessed about true freshman playing and contributing? I feel like this is relatively new. I guess the 2017 class just kind of reset expectations for some people?


My only thing with that is I want to see them get on the field in real time early and contribute because of what we saw happen with the running backs, receivers and OL (with injuries) at the end of the season. We need to know these guys can step in and make plays if needed. We might not have seen a couple of key WR drops in the championship game had these guys gotten on the field more. No way to know for sure though.
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