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I still have Bear Bryant as the GOAT.....
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:18 pm
if you're judging by his lifespan. He can't help that his body quit on him. Cigarettes ads from the 1930s to the 1950s all said they were recommended by doctors.
The man had 6 NCs by the age of 66. He didn't have the option of backdooring his way into a playoff like in 2017 or losing to the SEC Champion in 2011 and getting a rematch.
Bear also had 323 wins by age 69 compared to Saban at 268. Saban had the advantage of more games a year too.
Bear didn't have all these recruiting sites telling him where to go find the best players. This man just drove around the south for the most part and developed guys.
Bear also won Kentucky's only SEC Championship in football. For those that don't know Kentucky is considered a co-champion with Georgia after Mississippi State had to forfeit a game against Kentucky years later.
The man had 6 NCs by the age of 66. He didn't have the option of backdooring his way into a playoff like in 2017 or losing to the SEC Champion in 2011 and getting a rematch.
Bear also had 323 wins by age 69 compared to Saban at 268. Saban had the advantage of more games a year too.
Bear didn't have all these recruiting sites telling him where to go find the best players. This man just drove around the south for the most part and developed guys.
Bear also won Kentucky's only SEC Championship in football. For those that don't know Kentucky is considered a co-champion with Georgia after Mississippi State had to forfeit a game against Kentucky years later.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 12:19 pm
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Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:23 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
I don't think you can really compare eras but Bear was the greatest of his generation for certain. My Dad always talked about his presence when he was at A&M and how the moment he walked in a room he immediately got everyone's attention and you had no doubt who was in charge. Still the world he lived in was so different than Saban I don't know how you really do apples to apples.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:29 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
Don't really care, but I have a hard time believing you are an Alabama fan.
You sound more like a bitter LSU fan.
You sound more like a bitter LSU fan.
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He didn't have the option of backdooring his way into a playoff like in 2017 or losing to the SEC Champion in 2011 and getting a rematch.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:31 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
C'mon dude. It is clearly Saban, why even fight it at this point.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:34 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
Saban would coach circles around Bryant.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:35 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
"People think I'm the greatest damn coach in the world," said Bear Bryant, "but Neyland taught me everything I know."
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:36 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
Saban is miles better. In Bryant's age you could cheat openly and no one cared.
In addition, the SEC is way tougher these days which makes Sabans run more impressive.
In addition, the SEC is way tougher these days which makes Sabans run more impressive.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:36 pm to aggressor
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Still the world he lived in was so different than Saban I don't know how you really do apples to apples.
Saban is still one of the few coaches with an old school vibe.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:37 pm to MaroonMonsoon
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Saban is miles better. In Bryant's age you could cheat openly and no one cared.
Teams pay players these days.
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In addition, the SEC is way tougher these days which makes Sabans run more impressive.
But way harder to win an NC during Bear's time.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:38 pm to 3down10
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Don't really care, but I have a hard time believing you are an Alabama fan.
You sound more like a bitter LSU fan.
I will call a spade a spade. Do I have to be a homer just to be accepted here?
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:41 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
If it wasn't for Bear, Georgia Tech would still be in the SEC.
He also didn't have to deal with an 85 scholarship total limit or 25 scholarships per class.
Bear had coached 90 more games than Saban by age 69 and won 55 more games.
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The man had 6 NCs by the age of 66. He didn't have the option of backdooring his way into a playoff like in 2017 or losing to the SEC Champion in 2011 and getting a rematch.
He also didn't have to deal with an 85 scholarship total limit or 25 scholarships per class.
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Bear also had 323 wins by age 69 compared to Saban at 268. Saban had the advantage of more games a year too.
Bear had coached 90 more games than Saban by age 69 and won 55 more games.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:41 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
They didn't play as many games and with one loss, a team didn't have enough games to make up for it.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:42 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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But way harder to win an NC during Bear's time.
Is that because Bear was winning most of them?
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:44 pm to StringedInstruments
He wasn't the only one.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:46 pm to madmaxvol
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He also didn't have to deal with an 85 scholarship total limit or 25 scholarships per class.
Bear didn't have the luxury of modern technology to recruit players.
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Bear had coached 90 more games than Saban by age 69 and won 55 more games.
It's not Bear's fault Saban couldn't make it to the big leagues as fast as Bear.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:49 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
The Bear was a good man, great coach and deserves every accolade he gets except that Saban outdid him. Nothing to be ashamed of.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:49 pm to aggressor
I don't know if a conference will ever dominated the same way Bear dominated the SEC in the 70s.
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He only missed out on two conference titles:
1970, where Alabama was mediocre before he installed the Wishbone
1976, where Alabama finished 5-2 to finish second behind Georgia.
1976 Ole Miss is a strange one - they managed to beat both Georgia and Alabama, but didn't finish above .500 for the season.
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He only missed out on two conference titles:
1970, where Alabama was mediocre before he installed the Wishbone
1976, where Alabama finished 5-2 to finish second behind Georgia.
1976 Ole Miss is a strange one - they managed to beat both Georgia and Alabama, but didn't finish above .500 for the season.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:49 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
He lived in a time that he could sign a lot more than 85 and did.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:50 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Do I have to be a homer just to be accepted here?
Over on the Bama Board it seems you must hate Pete Golding and Bill O'Brien to be accepted. The posters over there know more than Saban does. Maybe one of them will take over for him when he heads to the lake for good.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:53 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Bear didn't have the luxury of modern technology to recruit players.
He also didn't have the hindrance of heavy NCAA investigations.
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Bear had coached 90 more games than Saban by age 69 and won 55 more games.
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It's not Bear's fault Saban couldn't make it to the big leagues as fast as Bear.
And it's not Saban's fault that his wining percentage is higher because he didn't coach at aTm or Kentucky.
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