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re: What I’m hearing (coaching search)
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:58 pm to NewYrkTiger
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:58 pm to NewYrkTiger
quote:Every HC has an ego. They all "know" what's best. That's how you get a Sunbelt Billy, and a guy who has 3 different coaches calling plays. Nothing wrong with giving an up and comer a massive opportunity with a few stipulations.
Ok, then don’t fricking hire Sumrall. If the AD thinks he knows better than the guy he’s interviewing, then the AD better not hire that guy. If you think you know better than this potential HC who the assistants should be, then you’re a shitty AD for not realizing this isn’t the guy you should hire. In summary - if he doesn’t know better than you, then you better move on to the next guy.
I have to wonder if someone with Sumerall's resume has the clout to bring in a coach with the chops to excel in the SEC AND recruit at a high level. He has that guy on staff right now.
If we don't keep Durkin, we will be competing against his defenses during the season and for recruits. If we hire Sumerall, I'd damn sure feel a whole lot better about the hire if Durkin was retained.
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:02 pm to NewYrkTiger
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me in the “an AD hires the HC, the HC hires his own assistants” crowd. Reports that the AD is dictating assistant coaches to interviewees is the staple of JABA.
This entirely depends on what the coach is trying to do. If he's trying to bring mediocre assistants over from his current school then I have zero problem with our PTB setting some ground rules on assistants.
Letting Sumrall bring his staff with him would result in the same crap Florida has dealt with Napier. Sumrall's defense is frankly not good at Tulane this year, and I wouldn't want him bringing his staff over.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:04 pm to auyushu
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If he's trying to bring mediocre assistants over from his current school then I have zero problem with our PTB setting some ground rules on assistants.
Better idea - if a coach is too stupid to hire his own staff, don’t hire that coach in the first place.
If Sumrall can’t be trusted to hire his own assistants, I’d say he’s not the man for the job. (And for the record, I’m pretty high on Sumrall. I’m just saying don’t hire a guy if you think you’ve got to make decisions for him. That’s a dumb hire by YOU.)
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:06 pm to NewYrkTiger
Don't worry. We are hiring Drink
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:08 pm to greygoose
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I have to wonder if someone with Sumerall's resume has the clout to bring in a coach with the chops to excel in the SEC AND recruit at a high level. He has that guy on staff right now.
Then. Don’t. Hire. Him.
It’s pretty simple, guys, to me, anyway. If a guy is too stupid to hire his own assistants, you shouldn’t hire him. If you do, then it’s YOU who is stupid.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:12 pm to AUCE05
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We are hiring Drink
I’m afraid you’re right. Or Durk.
And, hey, maybe Drink or Durk will be a great coach. But, damn. The PTB at Auburn think they way they think and nothing on earth (i.e., no amount of failure) is going to change it.
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:17 pm to NewYrkTiger
quote:That's the rub. All hot shot coaches think they are the next Vince Lombardi Hell, look at all the dumbass mistakes Kiffin has made in his career. especially when he was younger. Sumerall is at the same place Durkin was when he was hired at Maryland. If I'm Sumerall and at he cusp of getting paid the most money I've ever seen in my life, at a premier program, pushing a damn good coach on my staff is a no brainer. Especially considering how YOUR team responds to this coach.
Better idea - if a coach is too stupid to hire his own staff, don’t hire that coach in the first place.
If Sumrall can’t be trusted to hire his own assistants, I’d say he’s not the man for the job. (And for the record, I’m pretty high on Sumrall. I’m just saying don’t hire a guy if you think you’ve got to make decisions for him. That’s a dumb hire by YOU.)
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:26 pm to greygoose
The downside like I’ve said before is you have your potential replacement lurking behind you on the sideline. Let Summral lose a few games we (fans) and the PTB will be calling for Durkin to take over
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:29 pm to AUCE05
quote:I wouldn't be unhappy with Drink, and he's be around long enough to recognize a top DC when he sees one.
Don't worry. We are hiring Drink
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:33 pm to NewYrkTiger
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But, damn. The PTB at Auburn think they way they think and nothing on earth (i.e., no amount of failure) is going to change it.
You aren't wrong on this. The problem is most of their stupid moves due to them refusing to give up power have sideways worked out, which enables them. Chizik got a championship despite being a hire that pissed everyone off, and refusing to give Smart control resulted in Gus, but he had short term success.
Hopefully the last two horrific hires have caused them to back off a little.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:36 pm to AUtigR24
quote:That's the least of our worries right now. If you think your shite doesn't stink, worrying about your assistants overshadowing you is enough to go get your testosterone levels checked. Better be ready to show up day one with the attitude that no one on your staff is going to out work you.
The downside like I’ve said before is you have your potential replacement lurking behind you on the sideline. Let Summral lose a few games we (fans) and the PTB will be calling for Durkin to take over
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:39 pm to NewYrkTiger
Sometimes holding over staff is politely but sternly
suggested and often the holdovers are just temporary for seamless transitioning purposes.
Harsin and Freeze kept on Caddillac even though his salary was too bloated for his title. Pearl kept Person. Nate Oats- Antoine Pettway, Deboer kept Freddie Roach on AD encouragement. I'm sure the list goes on and on.
I am sure we will encourage new guy to hold onto Kenyatta Watson. The new coach has to be practical...
suggested and often the holdovers are just temporary for seamless transitioning purposes.
Harsin and Freeze kept on Caddillac even though his salary was too bloated for his title. Pearl kept Person. Nate Oats- Antoine Pettway, Deboer kept Freddie Roach on AD encouragement. I'm sure the list goes on and on.
I am sure we will encourage new guy to hold onto Kenyatta Watson. The new coach has to be practical...
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:47 pm to jangalang
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:56 pm to AUtigR24
quote:No downside to this.
The downside like I’ve said before is you have your potential replacement lurking behind you on the sideline.
If the PTB likes someone else more then that means the other guy actually is competent while the HC isnt, which we have enjoyed with Steele-Malzahn, Durkin-Freeze. We needed those DCs.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:04 pm to greygoose
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I wouldn't be unhappy with Drink, and he's be around long enough to recognize a top DC when he sees one.
I like the idea of a Drink/Durk combo. His offenses have always been good. He could probably retain a lot of our offensive playmakers. Keeping Durkin also helps retain our defensive players.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:10 pm to Placekicker
quote:Reports are, even the offensive players love Durkin. He's a player's coach.
Keeping Durkin also helps retain our defensive players.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:15 pm to jangalang
Hiring a HC is 1000x more important than your coordinators.
Durkin is a good DC, but placing more importance on him than the HC hire is monumentally stupid. Which is why I'm inclined to believe that's exactly what we're doing.
Durkin is a good DC, but placing more importance on him than the HC hire is monumentally stupid. Which is why I'm inclined to believe that's exactly what we're doing.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:17 pm to greygoose
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Reports are, even the offensive players love Durkin. He's a player's coach.
So was Les Miles.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:24 pm to LA kid but AU fan
quote:And has a ring.
So was Les Miles.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:31 pm to 88TIger
Good article about Chesney
Seems like a good coach with a great story. I’d never heard of the guy until I read this thread.
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“The energy and personality, he just makes everything fun,” Hitschler said of Chesney. “Ultra-competitive, high energy, understands the game and works hard at it. You get addicted to those feelings.”
Seems like a good coach with a great story. I’d never heard of the guy until I read this thread.
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