re: What I’m hearing (coaching search)

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No. Been here too many times to know we will make a lazy,, underwhelming hire again. Be back here in 3 years, repeating the same process again. It's really a shame

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You are free to believe whatever you want to believe. But there are a few important details that you are not considering which run counter to the normal Auburn hiring patterns:

1) When was the last time that Auburn has fielded multiple complete failures at HC in a row? Auburn historically makes "weird" hires, but they all generally have some level of success which is what gives validation to the thought process that went into making those hires in the first place. For example: Chizik won a national championship. This recent stretch of failure through multiple coaches is uncharted territory for this program, and everyone involved is aware of that. Which means that there is a much higher degree on importance on this next hire succeeding. Which means that there is less argument to be made in favor of lazy or crazy ideas.

2) I have mentioned this a few times now, but I don't think that everyone fully understands the significance yet: John Cohen is not going to get to hire a 3rd football coach. So this is his own job on the line. If you were in his shoes, are you going to go lazy and saddle yourself to DJ Durkin on what is going to be your career defining decision? I'm not sure what to make of Cohen, but he isn't a complete idiot and he is highly experienced. He won't get pushed around because it is his arse on the line. And since it is his arse on the line, he is going to act accordingly. And when Alan Greene's arse was on the line, look at what he did. Harsin was not a "lazy" hire, and it really wasn't even underwhelming given his resume at that point at surface level. Greene shot his shot with what he thought was a proven coach with a big winning record, and I would expect that Cohen is looking to do the same.

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Let's make a hire that doesn't require us talking each other into thinking it was a good hire

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What the hell are you even on about?

That hire doesn't exist because any hire can fail. I can point out a potential flaw in any candidate you name, even Kiffin.

Me either.

No shite Sherlock. No coach is a lock for greatness? How profound, thanks for pointing that out. I don't want a Durkin who failed once before and got run out of town, Fleck who hasn't done shite in years, or some other a-hole we have to convince ourselves has a chance of success.

Agree. Its our luck but I think hiring Harsin was the perfect storm for him to fail. He had a good record on paper but CFB was changing daily with NIL and he found out the hard way that you either ride the wave or you drown. It would have been hard for anyone to forsee how bad he would fail going by what information we had. The new coach will KNOW its all about NIL and Auburn is leaning on it heavy. A good hire this time has the potential to bring this team to higher standards than ever here. The recipe is definitely here. Its time to cook

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we have been cooked for a decade

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FIFY. Care of slang learned from a teenage daughter

Meet me at Sonic in 45 minutes!

Jimmy and Bobby had us winning… the last decade has been really bad

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Unless it's a bizarre hire, this is not Auburn career-defining for Cohen.

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I like Cohen at times, but then he makes terrible decisions like moving the opener. I think he was sort of talked into Freeze by those who had always wanted him. But I absolutely think this is a make or break hire for him. The low point which Auburn football is currently at should never be acceptable. Harsin and Freeze were terrible hires, and we aren’t far from where Tennessee was post-Fulmer and where Nebraska has been the last 30 years.