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CorchJay
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UAB Strategy - Anyone watching tonight
Anyone watching UAB tonight? Coach Clark has already used his 3rd string QB in the first half. Not sure other positions because I'm not that familiar with the roster. Sloppy game. Close at half 28-21, 3 turnovers by UAB.

The main question is do you think this will be a strategy for most teams this year to build experience for backup QBs or is it win at all costs? Would you be upset if Auburn used this year to build lots of experience for a more normal 2021 season or as a historical team should the goal this year be to go win every game?


PubeCrab
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“You play to win the game!”


CorchJay
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I agree but UAB ain't playing for a National championship and unless they turn it over another 3 times in the second half they will win this game going away. But they play Miami next week. Think they will continue the strategy?


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alpinetiger
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Haven't follwed the game.

Off subject, here's a legitimate question though, and its in your wheelhouse. Matt Cimo (AHS Baseball coach) is my neighbor in Auburn. I don't live in Auburn so I only see him at neighborhood Thanksgiving and Christmas parties. He's a three time state champion, only behind Dunn at Vestavia I think.

He thinks travel ball sucks, and this essiential idea of travel ball is ruining baseball. He says that kids these days haven't practiced fundamentals and their execution skills are lacking. There's not a lot of ground balls and fungos taken, BP on a repeatible swing, pitching slots, pitch execution. There are only games in travel ball.

It's hard to argue given his success. He even states that him and Thompson disagree on the larger points. What do you think? He's a major leager with success as a coach.


IAmNERD
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Would you be upset if Auburn used this year to build lots of experience for a more normal 2021 season

Absolutely. 1st game of the year with every goal still attainable? Yes. The team has lost 3 of 4 to begin the year? Play all the guys you can because something isn't working.
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should the goal this year be to go win every game?

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CorchJay
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For competition I like travel ball. However I don't think a 10 year old should be playing 60-70 baseball games a year. The problem with travel ball in smaller cities is you are excluding some late bloomers. I bet less then half of your 12 year old "all stars" are high school starters.

As a coach I'm involved a lot in the Middle school program, 9th grade team, JV team, and of course Varsity. So I look for athletes in middle school, things you can't teach, and I know by the time they are 10th -12th graders that they will have enough reps to be fundamentally sound.

A lot of the travel programs are just cliques but if you play at AAA or major level I can see some advantages. If you are playing the lowest division you can play just to get trophies then something is wrong with that organization.

I encourage my JV and Varsity players to play summer ball for 4 tournaments.


alpinetiger
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For competition I like travel ball. However I don't think a 10 year old should be playing 60-70 baseball games a year. The problem with travel ball in smaller cities is you are excluding some late bloomers. I bet less then half of your 12 year old "all stars" are high school starters.

As a coach I'm involved a lot in the Middle school program, 9th grade team, JV team, and of course Varsity. So I look for athletes in middle school, things you can't teach, and I know by the time they are 10th -12th graders that they will have enough reps to be fundamentally sound.

A lot of the travel programs are just cliques but if you play at AAA or major level I can see some advantages. If you are playing the lowest division you can play just to get trophies then something is wrong with that organization.

I encourage my JV and Varsity players to play summer ball for 4 tournaments.


He's been at AHS and built the consistiency. I believe fundamentals, then competition. It seems to work.

Admittedly he's in a great spot at AHS. He has 200 kids trying out for varsity baseball for 35 slots. In my day I think we had 25 players and I wouldnt piss on five of them.


CorchJay
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I carry between 26-30. A few of them play both JV and Varsity.

Whatever works best for a particular area to keep kids interested in baseball is the best in my opinion. Playing baseball definitely isn't for everyone.


Goggles Pizano
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I played for Cimo a long time ago and he is a great coach. I've also talked to him about travel ball and another point which I don't think has been covered is the emphasis on individual performance vs team performance in that environment. He often would bring up how some of his pitchers would travel, throw 2 innings and then leave. I know he thought that did little for the kids mental approach to teamwork and toughness. I tend to agree.

With that said I think Cimo's best attributes have been his mental approach and his emphasis on strength training. Both of those have done more for his players than any travel ball program possibly could.

As you mentioned it doesn't suck to have tons of pitching talent in high school either, which only came later in his tenure....

Cimo is the salt of the earth, love the guy.


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The guy who works for me also coaches offensive line for a local private school. He is retired now and coached at Buford/Roswell and Flowery Branch before he retired.

He said they have 30 total players this year and everyone will play both ways. He has a total of 8 linemen to play offense, defense and special teams.


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jangalang
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That’s no different than my HS. 31 students in my senior class. We played 1a ball. Actually beat Chip Lindsey’s 2a Colbert Heights team. We played both ways and even the modestly athletic kids were needed in multiple sports so we definitely had to concentrate on year around conditioning.


allin2010
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If we were playing Alcorn State on Saturday, then yes you use this strategy. You do not use it in an SEC game unless you are up big.


alpinetiger
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I played for Cimo a long time ago and he is a great coach. I've also talked to him about travel ball and another point which I don't think has been covered is the emphasis on individual performance vs team performance in that environment. He often would bring up how some of his pitchers would travel, throw 2 innings and then leave. I know he thought that did little for the kids mental approach to teamwork and toughness. I tend to agree.

With that said I think Cimo's best attributes have been his mental approach and his emphasis on strength training. Both of those have done more for his players than any travel ball program possibly could.

As you mentioned it doesn't suck to have tons of pitching talent in high school either, which only came later in his tenure....

Cimo is the salt of the earth, love the guy.


He's a great guy and he absolutely loves baseball. He has some grest stories from his minor league days. I played at AHS for John Smith then Jerry Pugh, which I think was right before Cimo.


slacker130
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Anyone watching UAB tonight? Coach Clark...Sloppy game


This can't be the same Coach Clark that is immortalized on this board?!!?? :eyeroll:


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Goggles Pizano
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He has some the best stories and was a hell of an athlete back in his day. Great at basketball too. When he first came to Auburn, he and Tommy Youngblood were coaches. Watching them take batting practice was a humbling experience as a 15 year old.


alpinetiger
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He has some the best stories and was a hell of an athlete back in his day. Great at basketball too. When he first came to Auburn, he and Tommy Youngblood were coaches. Watching them take batting practice was a humbling experience as a 15 year old.


Ha! I caught Tommy Youngblood in practice when he was a senior and I was a freshman. I felt lucky I didn't die. I'd never caught a fastball like that at that age, and I don't think I caught anyone else that threw harder and had such great second and third pitches. He could rake as well, but was known for pitching at AU. There was another guy named Gary Pugh on that AHS pitching staff that threw gas like Youngblood but had lesser pitches outside of his fastball. I'm dating myself here, but Tommy Youngblood's Father was actually an assistant coach my Junior and Senior years at AHS. He was a mailman and was done with his route by the time practices started!

Tommy Youngblood and the AHS varsity won the state championship their senior year, and Tommy had two game winners at the plate in the state playoffs. The best one was a classic 2 outs, 2 strikes, down 3-2 in the 7th. He hit a dinger at Patterson Field in Montgomery to beat Jeff Davis, who had a really good team. That AHS team played Hueytown for all the marbles at Plainsman Park, and Hueytown came into that game at 30-2 and had a ridiculous amount of guys sign to play D-1 and Juco. AHS swept them 2-0.

Too much information by me, but nice to meet another AHS alum!


Goggles Pizano
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Ha! I'm sure I know you or your family, I have older siblings that were at AHS around the time you are talking about. I also am well aware of Joe "Toddy" Younglbood. Nice guy, but tough. Jason Harkins was also a stud pitcher that I remember. He ended up punting in college.

I was at the Hueytown games at Plainsman Park and remember AHS winning although I was young.

AHS also had a monster basketball team in 87 that got robbed. Great athletics in the area, always.

I don't want to hijack the board but agree it is nice to meet another AHS alum.


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Goggles Pizano
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He's driving like a man on the freeway on his way home from work...


jangalang
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If we were playing Alcorn State on Saturday, then yes you use this strategy. You do not use it in an SEC game unless you are up big.

Agreed. Nobody in 3A and above should require most players to play both ways.


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