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Posted on 10/27/25 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3777 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 3:15 pm to
He absolutely failed upward.
He was fired by Texas Tech after 6 straight losing seasons in division, 35-40 overall, and almost immediately hired by Arizona, (the Sean McVay wave he rode).
This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 3:17 pm
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20442 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 3:17 pm to
Sounds just like Kiffin to me, which is who I was comparing him to.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86010 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:00 pm to
Just not really seeing this. At worst it was on par with other Maryland in the timeframe.

I also think it's probably premature to determine nobody else is interested in Durkin. Regardless, especially with a guy with his controversial past, I can see that in either direction. Nobody was hiring Hugh (red flag), nobody was hiring Bruce either.

I think Durkin has all the attributes a big contingent wants in an HC for Auburn right now. Not my first choice or my second, but I'm far from convinced he wouldn't be a reasonable candidate.

I've asked before - who do you like for the job?
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44920 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:07 pm to
I dont want Gardner as a HC like one person, but I do want him back as DL coach.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19234 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 4:29 pm to
There's a couple more G5 coaches to look at.

Eric Morris at North Texas has them with the #1 offense in FBS. He is 40.

Chesney at James Madison has turned around several programs. He is a defensive HC and has their D at #4 nationally. He is 48.

Kinne at Texas State has a very good offense as well. However, he is from the Gus coaching tree (played for him at Tulsa and coached for him at UCF).

I am leaning more towards a P5 coordinator myself.

Stein at Oregon, Shanahan at Indiana, Kirby Moore at Mizzou, or Garrett Riley at Clemson. Or if we go for a DC, then Durkin is as good as any.




Posted by attalla
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2017
1342 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 5:44 pm to
I’m ok with our current DLINE coach and results. Been pleasantly surprised at their physicality
Posted by kung fu kenny
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2017
2097 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 6:46 pm to
quote:

Durkin is as good as any.


10-15 as a HC. No thanks.
Posted by 88TIger
Member since Nov 2012
3376 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:28 pm to
If we loose out on some of our choices and wait until next year we should take a look at Bob Chesney. Won in a few lower places. Now dealing with NIL etc for the past couple of years... overall record as of now... 156-51

will be interesting to watch his career.
Posted by NewYrkTiger
New York City
Member since Jul 2023
423 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:48 pm to
quote:

if we go for a DC, then Durkin is as good as any.


You had me right up to the end.
Posted by 88TIger
Member since Nov 2012
3376 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 10:23 pm to
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Chesney at James Madison


and his D is kicking the heck out of

quote:

Kinne at Texas State has a very good offense as well.


I want to hire whomever has been making those hires at JMU. They seem to be picking some good coaches. Then he can pick them for us...

I also like Chesney. Of course it looks like Texas St is playing a RFr QB this game. Holden on that QB roster also.
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17221 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 11:58 pm to
Remember kiffins record before he redeemed himself?
Posted by AUWDE
Member since Oct 2013
3519 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 4:19 am to
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What if we went and grabbed indianas OC and payed him top money and said do your thing. Hugh you recruit and be a CEO and let’s see how it goes.


You want the Auburn PTB to go out and hire an OC because the HC they are paying millions of dollars for is incapable of doing it?

LOL. Sounds like a plan that has failed over, and over, and over again.
Posted by FahQGump
Auburn, Al
Member since Dec 2021
1490 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 4:33 am to
I see it all the same. If we pull the trigger this year then we may not be the best open job, but if we wait until next year then EVERY school hiring this year will get to pick from the same candidates before is. No matter what Auburn will still be one of the top few openings. There isnt going to be some new program builder rise to the top of the hireable coaching ranks between now and the end of next season
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17503 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:38 am to
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You want the Auburn PTB to go out and hire an OC because the HC they are paying millions of dollars for is incapable of doing it?


I used to say about Gus, did we hire him solely because he was a great head coach? If at any time the fact that you are hiring them in any part because of their offense, and that offense fails, well, there is no point keeping them as a head coach because I wouldn't have hired them as solely a head coach in the first place.

And as others I have scene pointed out, people believe we have a reputation for meddling with coaches and it scares good coaches away. But, we want to do this?
This post was edited on 10/29/25 at 7:39 am
Posted by 88TIger
Member since Nov 2012
3376 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:53 am to
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If we pull the trigger this year then we may not be the best open job, but if we wait until next year then EVERY school hiring this year will get to pick from the same candidates before is. No matter what Auburn will still be one of the top few openings.


Ok given what you are saying. Let's say we do what you say. Then the guy that we want let's say it is someone in the P5 group. That person is now gone signed up with a decent buyout. Now we have to see who else has been doing well and may not get who we need to get.

I don't have much faith in our coach pickers though. They picked a guy who has been available for years that others wouldn't touch. We could have had some great coaches. Your approach will do the same thing. Get us someone who isn't that good for us. We are in the Top 7 jobs that are available right now. We do have coaches that want to come here. There was one playing last night that I wouldn't mind having as a coach here.
Posted by pdfield34
Member since Aug 2022
575 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:10 am to
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You want the Auburn PTB to go out and hire an OC because the HC they are paying millions of dollars for is incapable of doing it?



Wouldn't be ideal, but let is sink in, this is probably a strong consideration.

You save on the buy out (no matter how "little" this is).

Additionally you save on staff buy outs.

You don't have to extend Freeze just let him retire.

Bring in someone new then you have to hire a completely new staff, both on field and administratively. You're just not being honest if you don't think this transition is a huge risk (but it doesn't compare to the risk of keeping Freeze, blah, blah - you don't know that). You could lose the whole current team.

Also just the way it is there will not be irreparable harm to Auburn even he he stays for 2 years. We will still get the TV money and the stadium will basically be full until/if the team quits midseason.

A decent / above average OC will take a 2 year contract for minimum $700K regardless of Freeze's situation.

This probably won't lead to success but it will lead to an unwinding that is semi-bearable.
Posted by Pauldingtiger
Alabama
Member since Jan 2019
949 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:48 pm to
It’s going to be Summerall!
Posted by FahQGump
Auburn, Al
Member since Dec 2021
1490 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:59 pm to
I may have typed that wrong. I was suggest that we DO hire someone new this year for the reason you mentioned. If we dont then he will likely be taken this year because there is going to be so many HC jobs filled this year.
Posted by 88TIger
Member since Nov 2012
3376 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 8:00 pm to
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he will likely be taken this year because there is going to be so many HC jobs filled this year.


I heard today that there may be up to 40 openings this year. I also heard that Durkin may be looked at for a HC position. So if we keep Freeze around, what are the odds that he will improve? Has he done it since we have been here? D has gotten better but I put that on Durkin. Our QBs haven't gotten better.

Be it Sumrall or the JMU guy or whomever we get. I hope he brings stability & makes good hires. I don't need splash. I need constancy with continual improvement. Kind of like TA&M did with Elko. I think Sumrall or the JMU guy can do that here. Coordinators might be but some don't pan out.

If we do get a bad coach pick then I want Cohen replaced with whomever at JMU picks their coaches. That guy has hit on the pas 3-4 coaches there.
Posted by michaeldwde
Georgia
Member since Nov 2010
4059 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 5:50 pm to
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t’s going to be Summerall



This seems to be the leader in the clubhouse with most Auburn fans. I've been listening to his pressers, and I like the guy. I also really like Meta's guy Hart line. I've only heard his name brought up once, for another job, generally speaking; I believe it was on Crain&Co. Both seem like legitimate winners to me. I still like that other guy, too, but, see no reason in trolling the board by bring it up, again.

We have to be ready to lose Durkin when we fire Freeze. So, if we really want to keep this Defensive staff, Freeze hiring an OC has to be a serious consideration. I'm aware of which way the wind is blowing on that idea, as well.

We'll see how the next several weeks go, but Freeze feels like a lame duck barring Daniels setting the world on fire and a four game winning streak falling from the sky.
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