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Posted on 4/3/23 at 8:08 pm to Stidham8
Not gonna re-litigate WG over and over and I plan on this being my last Wen conversation.. but the guy proved himself to be a good SEC pg. he definitely has a ceiling that’s lower than what we want, and he probably hit it. But to say he was a liability for this team is absurd. He was the best late clock option on a couple teams that had no good options. Also there are teams all around the country that want guards that can close out games at the foul line and he did that in a lot of games for us over the last 2 years at an elite level and it’s a true luxury. He also led the SEC in assist % last season, was 7th this year.
I’m ecstatic about Aden and then the next year Philon/Pettiford but I will say the list of teams with deep March runs whose lead guards were freshmen is pretty dang short. Definitely not impossible but I’d feel better with a veteran lead guard. Can Donaldson be that guy? I really really like him so far but at this point there is no guarantee he will evolve past his current form. Hard to see his ceiling
I’m ecstatic about Aden and then the next year Philon/Pettiford but I will say the list of teams with deep March runs whose lead guards were freshmen is pretty dang short. Definitely not impossible but I’d feel better with a veteran lead guard. Can Donaldson be that guy? I really really like him so far but at this point there is no guarantee he will evolve past his current form. Hard to see his ceiling
This post was edited on 4/3/23 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 4/3/23 at 8:13 pm to auburnnyc94
The only thing dumber than this argument is the choices they’ve made for the F4 and NC nationals anthems.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 8:59 pm to Stidham8
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Didn’t read your book except for scanning to this line and laughing. The dude missed more game winning/tying shots this year than I can count. He is anti-clutch.
And Jesus wept. Missing game winning shots isn’t inherently a bad look for WG, especially when there are 39 other minutes in the game. Being glad he transferred just because he sucked in the last minute is pretty dumb.
He also undramatically delivered wins but those don’t count to you.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 9:06 pm to CorchJay
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Why is everyone up in arms on either side the players or the coaches. The players wanted pay for play and coaches have to justify what the players get. We will have roster turnover every year. Some feelings will get hurt on each side. As long as they wear orange and blue I will support them. If they don’t make an arse of themselves I will support them when they leave. I don’t blame Wen for his dad’s tweet. Wen played hard for us and I will give him that respect. However this team, this roster, regardless of who it was/is needed turnover and however those conversations were done that is Bruce’s responsibility. Seems he’s handled himself just fine and at the end of the day that’s all that matters. What the players do for their scholarships and NIL and how Bruce manages the roster. I say all that to say this is not the first and it won’t be the last in the era of college basketball free agency.
You said a lot without saying a whole lot.
You knocked it out of the park.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 10:34 pm to jangalang
I’m late to this party... WGJr isn’t going pro and is actually transferring to Rutgers? Is this what is happening?
Posted on 4/3/23 at 11:13 pm to Stidham8
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The dude missed more game winning/tying shots this year than I can count. He is anti-clutch.
Even Jordan was only 9/35 in his career on game winning shots. It’s the hardest shot to make.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 11:13 pm to Je23Mo
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I’m late to this party... WGJr isn’t going pro and is actually transferring to Rutgers? Is this what is happening?
I've missed that. Where did you see he's going to Rutgers?
Posted on 4/3/23 at 11:16 pm to Beachbum87
Yeah I mean I must have missed all the game winners Auburn normally hits
Posted on 4/3/23 at 11:18 pm to HailToTheChiz
I’m thinking perhaps there were some wires crossed with the Dylan Harper discussion lol
Posted on 4/4/23 at 4:37 am to jangalang
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He also undramatically delivered wins but those don’t count to you.
WG was a great, clutch free throw shooter.
Like any other player, with Jabari and Kessler, he played better.
He was a good PG.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 6:58 am to makersmark1
And he could’ve been a better PG by feeding those two instead of trying to be the man himself.
We had a huge mismatch advantage against every team we played with two future NBA all star big men, but instead of exploiting that we gave other teams the mismatch advantage bc our two undersized guards thought they had the handles of Kyrie Irving and insisted on taking some of the worst shots I’ve ever seen. Every. Single. Game. And just bc he made some of those ridiculous shots doesn’t give him a pass when he shot the % he did from 3
We had a huge mismatch advantage against every team we played with two future NBA all star big men, but instead of exploiting that we gave other teams the mismatch advantage bc our two undersized guards thought they had the handles of Kyrie Irving and insisted on taking some of the worst shots I’ve ever seen. Every. Single. Game. And just bc he made some of those ridiculous shots doesn’t give him a pass when he shot the % he did from 3
Posted on 4/4/23 at 7:33 am to BowlJackson
I find it hard to view him in such a negative light to talk ill of him. Maybe it is just me but if he sucked that bad that then the backup being more shitty is the real problem.
As for last year…. that was his first year and still helped lead Auburn to a conference championship.
Adios Wendell. Thank you for your services.
As for last year…. that was his first year and still helped lead Auburn to a conference championship.
Adios Wendell. Thank you for your services.
This post was edited on 4/4/23 at 7:39 am
Posted on 4/4/23 at 7:38 am to jangalang
In other news:
KD finished shooting 33% from downtown thanks to a scorching end to his season.
He shot .391 in February and .529 in March (!)
Before February his intra season high point was .316 in December. His Low was .238 in January.
KD finished shooting 33% from downtown thanks to a scorching end to his season.
He shot .391 in February and .529 in March (!)
Before February his intra season high point was .316 in December. His Low was .238 in January.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 7:47 am to BowlJackson
Sure wish those two could have exploited the mismatch they had against Miami last tournament when they shot a combined 3-22 (a lot of which was from 5 feet or less)
Seriously I think we all saw Wen’s flaws but there is just a huge gap between “he could have been a better Point Guard” (I agree) and that he was a liability. He was a solid player, who had too much asked of him sometimes, and took too much upon himself other times. His irrational confidence helped make him a good player but also hurt him at times and in occasional games really hurt the team. All this can be true at the same time. I just think it’s wild to remember him as anything other than a net positive. The statistics and the eye test agree, imo.
Seriously I think we all saw Wen’s flaws but there is just a huge gap between “he could have been a better Point Guard” (I agree) and that he was a liability. He was a solid player, who had too much asked of him sometimes, and took too much upon himself other times. His irrational confidence helped make him a good player but also hurt him at times and in occasional games really hurt the team. All this can be true at the same time. I just think it’s wild to remember him as anything other than a net positive. The statistics and the eye test agree, imo.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 7:53 am to jangalang
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KD finished shooting 33% from downtown thanks to a scorching end to his season.
I feel like I remember reading a quote from Bruce saying he’d been telling him to work on the shot machine to get his shot angle down and KD kept telling him he didn’t need it. Bruce said Jabari lived on that machine and towards the end of the season KD finally started using it.
If KD can accept the role/expectations Bruce has set for them then I really hope he stays. He played way more within himself this year compared to the beginning of the year and last year.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 7:55 am to AA7
Beyond just the shooting, his decision making and defensive effort seemed so much better in March.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 9:02 am to auburnnyc94
I don't hate the guy, I just think we can improve at that position.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 9:53 am to Smoke7024
We can, and may, but it's far from certain that we will. Some people seem to think just because he leaves we are automatically going to upgrade when I'd say that's a 50/50 proposition at the absolute best.
Posted on 4/4/23 at 9:56 am to auburnnyc94
I just don't agree Wendell was our best late clock option on a "couple" teams. How many times in the 2022 season did he simply not get Jabari Smith the ball in crunch time or late clock situations? It was insanely frustrating.
This year, I'd much rather have had KDs confidence than a flustered and floundering WG with the rock late in games. WG may be one of the least clutch PGs I've ever seen (except at the FT line he deserves credit there for sure). It was baffling how different of a player he became as the moments got bigger.. And not in a good way
That being said he wasn't a shitty PG. He was solid as a whole, just really bad in crunch time. He hit his ceiling and it feels weird to not be upset that an ALL-SEC PG is leaving us
This year, I'd much rather have had KDs confidence than a flustered and floundering WG with the rock late in games. WG may be one of the least clutch PGs I've ever seen (except at the FT line he deserves credit there for sure). It was baffling how different of a player he became as the moments got bigger.. And not in a good way
That being said he wasn't a shitty PG. He was solid as a whole, just really bad in crunch time. He hit his ceiling and it feels weird to not be upset that an ALL-SEC PG is leaving us
This post was edited on 4/4/23 at 10:04 am
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