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Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:08 pm to jt33
Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:08 pm to jt33
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Waste of one of the more unique offensive weapons in the country imo.let him focus on offense and keeping his weight in check. Also shows that they might not like what they see from some of the other DL.
It’s not a waste if coaches think they have an over of abundance of TEs that can block and catch well in Fromm, Frazier, Deal and Shenker like JJ.
So he is so gifted that he can make a difference at DL then I want to put the best out there.
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:08 pm to jt33
quote:Weird, because on 3-15 he was:
He's not 300 LBs. They had him losing weight all off season. Last I heard he was below 280 and still dropping (though I assume he's trying to gain weight again).
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• +8 pounds: Tight end J.J. Pegues (300 -> 308)
Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:12 pm to TTsTowel
Lots of weights we're listed wrong. I think they we're taken very early in the year.. a few players told people on social media what their real weights we're
Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:12 pm to TTsTowel
He might’ve been allowed to eat second helpings after Wright went down.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:13 pm to jt33
Okay, buddy.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:14 pm to jt33
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Waste of one of the more unique offensive weapons in the country imo.let him focus on offense and keeping his weight in check. Also shows that they might not like what they see from some of the other DL.
What an utterly stupid post on so many levels.
There is absolutely nothing "interesting" about a 310 pound TE. What mismatch do you think this "offensive weapon" is exploiting? He's too slow to be a mismatch against any LB that would be covering him. He's not even tall or long - he's actually short for the position. His "talent" at that size is literally just blocking. Blocking is nice - but to waste a freakish athlete like that in the role of "blocking" TE/HB is absolutely asinine.
They tried to run a play from the backfield with him against Northwestern and he got hit in the backfield and stopped easily. The 300-pound ball-carrier is a complete gimmick and has no real utilization. Here's why Pegues at TE is stupid as shite: he is fast...for a 310 pounder. You can find 250 pound TE's that run better than him easily, that are also 3+ inches taller with longer arms, better movement skills, etc, etc.
He was moved to DT because at THAT position you're looking at a potential 1st round talent with huge athleticism. A star DT is one of the most valuable players you can field, didn't we already learn this with Fairly and Derrick Brown LOL?
Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:18 pm to TTsTowel
quote:I'm not telling you anything thats not public knowledge. I can't help that you're dealing in dated information. Feel free to ask any of the other 247 subscribers on here, maybe even Rivals I'm not sure. Its well acknowledged that the weights we're taken very early and a lot of them we're wrong, with Pegues being among them.
Okay, buddy.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:21 pm to metafour
quote:Another person dealing with wrong info from the start. At least get proper weights before you start throwing your opinion out there on the subject. Feel free to go show me all his highlights on the defensive side of the ball though.. I'll even settle for stats from that side of the ball, since he's a lock to be such a star DT.
What an utterly stupid post on so many levels.
There is absolutely nothing "interesting" about a 310 pound TE. What mismatch do you think this "offensive weapon" is exploiting? He's too slow to be a mismatch against any LB that would be covering him. He's not even tall or long - he's actually short for the position. His "talent" at that size is literally just blocking. Blocking is nice - but to waste a freakish athlete like that in the role of "blocking" TE/HB is absolutely asinine.
They tried to run a play from the backfield with him against Northwestern and he got hit in the backfield and stopped easily. The 300-pound ball-carrier is a complete gimmick and has no real utilization. Here's why Pegues at TE is stupid as shite: he is fast...for a 310 pounder. You can find 250 pound TE's that run better than him easily, that are also 3+ inches taller with longer arms, better movement skills, etc, etc.
He was moved to DT because at THAT position you're looking at a potential 1st round talent with huge athleticism. A star DT is one of the most valuable players you can field, didn't we already learn this with Fairly and Derrick Brown LOL?
Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:22 pm to jt33
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I'm not telling you anything thats not public knowledge. I can't help that you're dealing in dated information. Feel free to ask any of the other 247 subscribers on here, maybe even Rivals I'm not sure. Its well acknowledged that the weights we're taken very early and a lot of them we're wrong, with Pegues being among them.
If he showed up to workouts at 308 pounds then that in itself should tell you that he has no business trying to "slim down" every year to play TE...where he's not even special. That means that he's going to fight his weight every offseason. He is quite obviously a natural 300 pounds - hence why straight out of HS he showed up at that weight.
Even if he's 6'2 285...that's still too fat for the position LMAO. At that weight he's good for blocking and a few gadget plays. That's it.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:22 pm to metafour
And I’d rather Pegues make a DL move against an OL and create a QB sack than him catch a pass for 9 yards. ??
Again we have an over of abundance of quality TEs that can catch and block.
Harsin and Bobo use the TE a lot so I have confidence in them that they have what they need at that position and are willing to put another athlete on the DL.
Again we have an over of abundance of quality TEs that can catch and block.
Harsin and Bobo use the TE a lot so I have confidence in them that they have what they need at that position and are willing to put another athlete on the DL.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:24 pm to jt33
quote:Feel free to show us all the highlights on the offensive side of the ball.
Feel free to go show me all his highlights on the defensive side of the ball though..
7 catches for 57 yards?
5 rushes for 14 yards?
0 touchdowns?
Transcendent offensive talent there, bro.
I can promise you he will make more impact on defense. And given the roster, Auburn has an abundance at TE and not so much at DT. Auburn doesn’t even always have to rely on TE on offense, whereas the need for DT is imperative.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:27 pm to jt33
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Another person dealing with wrong info from the start. At least get proper weights before you start throwing your opinion out there on the subject. Feel free to go show me all his highlights on the defensive side of the ball though.. I'll even settle for stats from that side of the ball, since he's a lock to be such a star DT.
Its called projection. No, there is absolutely no guarantee that he's going to work out at DT - but its a common sense move. Warren Sapp played TE too to start his career - it turns out that being a freakishly athletic DT is worth more than being a 290 pound TE LMAO.
The whole JJ Pegues "storyline" is straight annoying. Explain to me what makes him an "offensive weapon"? What can he do that a traditional TE can't do? Why are there no 280+ pound TE's in the NFL?
His entire storyline has zero substance. He had 7 catches for 57 yards, and 5 carries for 14 yards last season. Wow! What a weapon! Apart from a novelty of seeing a guy who's near 300 pounds running around and catching the ball once or twice, there is next to no real "mismatch" opportunity there. His best plays were all blocks.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:28 pm to metafour
quote:I would agree which is why I said he should continue to lose weight, which he has had no trouble doing.
Even if he's 6'2 285...that's still too fat for the position LMAO. At that weight he's good for blocking and a few gadget plays. That's it.
I'm not letting this take up my day though. I'll remember to bring this back up when he transfers after this year after making the switch and getting very little playing time.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:32 pm to jt33
quote:Go ahead.
I'll remember to bring this back up when he transfers after this year after making the switch and getting very little playing time.
Nobody will care.
If he transfers, he will have made just as much of an impact on DL as he did TE.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:35 pm to jt33
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I would agree which is why I said he should continue to lose weight, which he has had no trouble doing.
If he has "no trouble" losing weight, then why was he ever 300 pounds to begin with? This kid showed up to Auburn at 280-300 pounds.
You're talking out of your arse. Look at his legs and lower half - he has the body of a NATURAL fat boy. The TE's that you see in the NFL are all LONG and RANGY. There are literally zero guys in the NFL that are actual standouts who are shaped anything like Pegues.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:42 pm to metafour
quote:They had him on a new meal plan and we're helping him lose the weight. He never really tried to keep it down before, but I'm sure you already new all that since you know everything else.
If he has "no trouble" losing weight, then why was he ever 300 pounds to begin with? This kid showed up to Auburn at 280-300 pounds.
You're talking out of your arse. Look at his legs and lower half - he has the body of a NATURAL fat boy. The TE's that you see in the NFL are all LONG and RANGY. There are literally zero guys in the NFL that are actual standouts who are shaped anything like Pegues
He's not a natural DT. He wasn't even good at it in HS where his physical advantages we're even greater.
I'm off to finish watching fights now though.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:52 pm to jt33
He will be a defensive lineman catching TDs for Belichick like Vrabel used to. Bank on that.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 4:00 pm to jt33
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Remember what I said when you see him transferring after getting stick in limbo after moving to DT.
Our current defensive line coach was recruited to Auburn...as a TE. He went elsewhere to play DL and then spent several years in the league...I trust he has had this conversation with JJ.
There is no 300 plus pound TE in the NFL, there is a fella who was a TE in high school and converted to the DL at the U who had the quicks like |JJ, I believe his name was Warren Sapp.
We also have something like 16 TEs on scolly right now. Ill stop now so someone can remind me how we will use two TE sets, with an H back in the backfield, maybe two, and might run some trick plays with the TE at QB so we could have five on the field and once and need 16 on scholly.
Put the man on the DL and let the big boy eat. \
This post was edited on 4/10/21 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 4/10/21 at 5:38 pm to trinidadtiger
Dude is every bit of 300 pounds.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 5:58 pm to TTsTowel
Appropose of nothing, when I worked at the Athletic Complex at Auburn, Gary Walker would arrive and shout to anyone in the lobby, "GW, believe that!" He may still be playing snaps in the NFL.
He was a TE in high school, but was just naturally too heavy like Pegues so he was a fatass TE but a great DE/DT.
He was a TE in high school, but was just naturally too heavy like Pegues so he was a fatass TE but a great DE/DT.
This post was edited on 4/10/21 at 6:06 pm
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