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On the Hunter call to review, I thought it would be targeting

Posted on 10/16/21 at 7:31 pm
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13290 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 7:31 pm
Hunter was completely helpless in the defenders grasp, in the air, and he intentionally spiked his body into the turf.
Should have ejected him and given us 15 yards, it certainly was not a fumble....unless you can make forward progress dangling from the air.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24760 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 7:37 pm to
you can tell the white hats are being told to use forward progress as a cop out for risky calls. they did the same with ole miss and the fumble for TD for Tenn
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28280 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 7:43 pm to
That wouldn't be targeting. Personal foul/unnecessary roughness, yes.

We got a break on that. It was definitely a fumble.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6368 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 1:36 pm to
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you can tell the white hats are being told to use forward progress as a cop out for risky calls. they did the same with ole miss and the fumble for TD for Tenn


I so enjoy this BS.

White Hats had no call on the play .....That's emotion, not careful thought.

Fumble on Hunter .....That's listening to the idiots announcing the game filling the heads of viewers like the sheep that they are. No wonder Democrats get a lot of stupid votes. Emphasis on the word stupid.

Field Officials ruled fumble on Hunter. Field Officials are taught to swallow their whistles and let the play continue. That does not make the play ......The play ends when the ball is officially down.

Hunter is hit, lifted off the ground, turned and being driven to the ground. Forward Progress ended when Hunter was lifted off the ground intentionally ...... He's no longer in control to advance the ball and he's been turned ...away from the LOS.

Review club drinking cocktails upstairs and in Birmingham see the exact same thing ...End of play, no fumble.

But because the biggest idiot in the announcer's booth tells you what to think ......it's a fumble. Not hardly.

Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 2:04 pm to
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bluedragon


This ain't the poli board.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 3:45 pm to
It was a fumble. First down Arky.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6368 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

It was a fumble. First down Arky.




Try every officiating board out there with an NCAA rules discussion.......Everyone agrees ...Forward Progress stopped.

No polling
Posted by Awesome Dave
Auburn, AL
Member since Sep 2014
891 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 4:32 pm to
Why do you use ellipses so much .......?
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61547 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 6:58 pm to
It was a fumble.

Not even close. We would have been seriously pissed.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26680 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 7:07 pm to
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It was a fumble.

Not even close. We would have been seriously pissed.

Agreed. Only way it’s not is if a ref blew it dead beforehand.

We got the benefit of the doubt then. I personally haven’t lost any sleep over it. Especially after that drive was extended three times after Arkansas was short three straight third downs.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34858 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

It was a fumble.

Not even close. We would have been seriously pissed.


I believe play is instantly dead when a defender starts those suplex moves on a guy. I was surprised they didn’t get a personal foul call on that. So, it was technically dead when that started.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6368 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 7:28 pm to
Replay booth agreed with us ....

Too bad the arm chair quarterback club was busy doing wrist curls at the time.
Posted by mckibaj
Member since Nov 2010
7728 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 7:39 pm to
Hunter had forward progress. Just like this play that happened later that wasn’t reviewed or mentioned.

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Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36237 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 7:42 pm to
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believe play is instantly dead when a defender starts those suplex moves on a guy.

That’s the speculation I’m reading as well.

quote:

was surprised they didn’t get a personal foul call on that

Derrick Brown did a UCF running back much worse. He basically picked him up and slammed him on his head. No penalty. I really don’t think it’s illegal just discouraged.
Posted by MTurbo
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2010
1773 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 7:46 pm to
They didn't talk about that one b/c Arkansas recovered it. Now if Auburn would have recovered it but they said it was Arky ball then nearly every Auburn fan on this forum would have been pissed. I know if I was an Arky fan on the Hunter NonFumble/Fumble I would be pissed too b/c in my view it was a fumble.
Posted by mckibaj
Member since Nov 2010
7728 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 7:52 pm to
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They didn't talk about that one b/c Arkansas recovered it.

True. But it was 3rd and 9 instead of 3 and 15. KJ got the first down the next play with the help of a block from the back judge.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 8:04 pm to
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Only way it’s not is if a ref blew it dead beforehand.


The line judge blew it dead. He comes in with his fist up signaling 4th down. Then
the kid slammed Hunter and he fumbled during that slam.
This post was edited on 10/17/21 at 8:05 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34858 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 9:59 pm to
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Derrick Brown did a UCF running back much worse. He basically picked him up and slammed him on his head. No penalty. I really don’t think it’s illegal just discouraged.


I think last year was the first year it was actually a penalty, but I may be wrong. I believe we had one two games ago where the other team got called for the penalty.
This post was edited on 10/17/21 at 10:02 pm
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6368 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 3:54 pm to
Rule implemented several years ago, makes the Line Judge whistle or signal an impossible excuse.

If the action is considered continual, not ball dead. In the act of tackling, should the whistle blow or a signal be made, an instantaneous fumble occurs followed by an immediate recovery of the fumble…THE WHISTLE OR SIGNAL IS IGNORED.

The replay booth determined that forward progress was stopped and Hunter had no power to continue his run.

No fumble afterwards.

And yes, I disagree with the whistle, signal rule. Only used in the NCAA when replay is active.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28280 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

I believe play is instantly dead when a defender starts those suplex moves on a guy.



I didn't realize that. Apparently it's a new rule. When a player is lifted off the ground, the play is automatically dead.

quote:

As for the specific play, Pittman said he was informed because the Auburn ball-carrier – Jarquez Hunter – was lifted off the ground on the tackle that it could not be ruled a fumble.

“They said the ball-carrier was picked up,” Pittman shared postgame, “which meant it couldn't be a fumble.”


LINK

I guess it's about player safety.
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