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re: New Head Coach Thread: Officially Official 2020
Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:05 pm to jt33
Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:05 pm to jt33
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to step back so we can start the real coaching search.
Sadly, I think Auburn his headed for our Dubose/Franchione/Price/Shula/Kines era. Not sure if our wandering the wasteland of college football for the next 10 years will end the same, however.
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:06 pm to jt33
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Tell me how Bill Clark is going to win a recruiting battle against Saban, Smart, Mullen, Fisher, O, or Kiffin?
Have we been winning any of these battles under Gus?
Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:06 pm to metafour
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It's Bill Clark's fault that as a HS coach at Prattville, he did everything in his power to steer his players away from Auburn. He can go frick himself. Now you want to make his career here at Auburn? He can sit his arse at UAB and wait for Bama to open up and come calling - which will never happen of course because the idea of an actual SEC program calling him up is comical.
Newsflash. I was not consulted in regard to the opening as the HFC at Auburn University. He is not my choice but I will support whoever is hired because I want Auburn to win. It's not that difficult of a concept
Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:06 pm to The_SwAUggford
Swaug, only reason why Clark is acceptable to our committee is because he will play to PTB’s political game.
He has no P5 resume and he ranked 9th in his conference in recruiting. That is not top 15 material. He may be alright, but generally we should be going after better than that.
Not hating on Clark, but those are the facts. Personally, I have no problem with Clark, the person. The resume? I’m concerned.
From an article:
He (Clark) understands how to navigate the politics and use them to his benefit, which really is job No. 1 at Auburn. I think it’s Bill Clark and he should keep Kevin Steele as his assistant head coach to once again help navigate the waters of Auburn and maximize what other people see as a detriment.”
He has no P5 resume and he ranked 9th in his conference in recruiting. That is not top 15 material. He may be alright, but generally we should be going after better than that.
Not hating on Clark, but those are the facts. Personally, I have no problem with Clark, the person. The resume? I’m concerned.
From an article:
He (Clark) understands how to navigate the politics and use them to his benefit, which really is job No. 1 at Auburn. I think it’s Bill Clark and he should keep Kevin Steele as his assistant head coach to once again help navigate the waters of Auburn and maximize what other people see as a detriment.”
Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:07 pm to jangalang
It’s fricked up that winning isn’t number 1
Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:08 pm to jangalang
Bill Clark is going to say no to us.....
Then the real melting begins
Then the real melting begins
Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:08 pm to CaptainBrannigan
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Have we been winning any of these battles under Gus?
Brannigan, the general idea to paying 21 million to fire a coach is to come out better in the end. Please keep up.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:08 pm to jt33
He won't come as a yes man. He probably has given us his conditions on accepting the job. BOTs are harrumphing, blustering and drizzling down their legs in a meeting with Greene, who is trying to tell them this might be the last shot staring into an unholy abyss. Time to pray.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:08 pm to The_SwAUggford
Take Clark’s name out of it, you obviously admire him, which is fine, but it’s skewing your ability to see how badly the AU BOT botched this coaching firing and search. Clark wasn’t even on the top 10 and now he’s leading because the leadership botched it so bad.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:08 pm to jangalang
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He (Clark) understands how to navigate the politics and use them to his benefit, which really is job No. 1 at Auburn.
Which means he will do anything the money people tell him to do, so that they can play foosball coach.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:09 pm to The_SwAUggford
quote:I can't source it but I'm pretty sure I remember him trying to get interviews at places.. Maybe at WV before Brown got hired, and they turned him down.
Now you’re talking about shite you could possibly never know. I’m not sure why Clark hasn’t gotten any other P5 interviews and I’m not gonna act like I do. And it’s all speculation at this point. It is weird but I don’t think it means as much as y’all do. It could be something as simple as it’s a known fact in the coaching world that Clark doesn’t want to leave the state. He could’ve been asked to interview and turned those opportunities down. I’m not gonna waste my time on pure speculation. Bill Clark has done an incredible job at UAB and I see no concrete reason that couldn’t translate at Auburn so I’ll support him. Is it the most exciting hire? No. Do I think he can compete in the West? Maybe.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:11 pm to jt33
quote:this very well could bite us in the arse. But in college all it takes is a superstar offensive coordinator and a head coach capabale of establishing a winning culture. You want to use that as an argument when Nick Saban is the standard rn and he’s a defensive coach.
I don't expect it. I also don't expect to just sit back and take the BS that going on either. There's a reason the NFL is only hiring offensive minds and special teams coaches as HCs right now.. anyone hiring a defensive minded HC is getting left behind plain and simple.
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Tell me how Bill Clark is going to win a recruiting battle against Saban, Smart, Mullen, Fisher, O, or Kiffin?
Idfk I’m not in the room with him while he’s recruiting and neither are you. That’s a shitty argument based on pure speculation and could be used against Billy Napier and any other coach who’s never recruited in the SEC or on a national level.
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And again as someone asked a few pages what.. what other jobs has he been up for so far?
Addressed this in my last post
Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:11 pm to jt33
We’re fricked
Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:12 pm to The_SwAUggford
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Now you’re talking about shite you could possibly never know.
I'm thinking most people know, but a select few. It's called logic and critical thinking. If you think that "Maybe he doesn't want to leave the state..."is a reason he hasn't been considered for another job, anywhere. I would call that illogical and devoid of critical thought.
He is NOT a logical choice for Head Coach at Auburn University. You can defend him all you want and he could be a hell of a coach. It's completely irrelevant. His resume does NOT qualify him for a call back from Auburn University. Period. Not even sure he'd get a call back from TN or USCe.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:12 pm to jangalang
quote:Take a look at where that finished in the national rankings lol.
He has no P5 resume and he ranked 9th in his conference in recruiting. That is not top 15 material. He may be alright, but generally we should be going after better than that.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:12 pm to jt33
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I can't source it but I'm pretty sure I remember him trying to get interviews at places.. Maybe at WV before Brown got hired, and they turned him down.
I’m supposed to just accept the holes in your memory as fact?
Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:13 pm to jt33
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I can't source it but I'm pretty sure I remember him trying to get interviews at places.. Maybe at WV before Brown got hired, and they turned him down.
Its asinine. Bill Clark is 52 - the idea that he's still sitting around at UAB because he wants to is absurd. He's 52 - not 32. His time is ticking down every day that passes.
He hasn't gotten any other serious calls because its 2020 and no one wants a boring-arse defensive HC who can't recruit. It doesn't seem like anyone really gives a frick about this "masterful" job he's done at UAB either.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:14 pm to slacker130
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If you think that "Maybe he doesn't want to leave the state..."is a reason he hasn't been considered for another job, anywhere. I would call that illogical and devoid of critical thought.
Why? Some people go against the grain and are built different. It’s the only place he’s ever coached so logic says maybe there’s some merit to that.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:14 pm to metafour
Baws, we’re running thin on candidates at this point.
I’m desperate enough to mention Will Muschamp.
Yay or nay?
I’m desperate enough to mention Will Muschamp.
Yay or nay?
Posted on 12/21/20 at 5:14 pm to metafour
are we there yet?
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