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re: Malcolm Simmons Arrested (Case Dismissed/Chex vs Corch Cat Fight Continues)
Posted on 8/8/25 at 11:21 am to CorchJay
Posted on 8/8/25 at 11:21 am to CorchJay
Yep. Again, don't know what did or did not happen, so just discussion scenarios.
Going with our Title IX office's conclusion though, he was ruled not responsible. That's an interesting way of putting it. Clearly something happened, so somebody was responsible for something. Sealing would also protect anyone else invovled that would be deemed the "responsible" party, from being made public (be that the alleged victim, anoher party we don't know about, etc).
Going with our Title IX office's conclusion though, he was ruled not responsible. That's an interesting way of putting it. Clearly something happened, so somebody was responsible for something. Sealing would also protect anyone else invovled that would be deemed the "responsible" party, from being made public (be that the alleged victim, anoher party we don't know about, etc).
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Posted on 8/8/25 at 11:21 am to StringedInstruments
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Wait...I thought he didn't do anything and that she dropped the charges?
Why would we need the case sealed up?
Methinks we are overlooking a domestic violence incident for his performance on the football field.
This is how it works.
The fact that the university has said he wasn't responsible for domestic violence allows the athletic machine to throw its full weight behind him.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 11:34 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Yep. Again, don't know what did or did not happen, so just discussion scenarios.
Going with our Title IX office's conclusion though, he was ruled not responsible. That's an interesting way of putting it. Clearly something happened, so somebody was responsible for something. Sealing would also protect anyone else invovled that would be deemed the "responsible" party, from being made public (be that the alleged victim, anoher party we don't know about, etc).
Yeah, but let's be real. If there was a super secret third party, then she would have pressed charges against that person, right?
This doesn't pass the smell test. It seems much more likely that Simmons choked her and the charges were dismissed in a similar way that 60% of domestic violence incidents don't make it to charges.
I just don't know how we can root for a team that supports players who were arrested for domestic violence, with a victim displaying bruises on her neck, and need youthful offender status to keep the details hidden away after the charges were mysteriously dropped. Seems like typical BS where violence against women isn't taken as seriously as drug charges or touchdowns.
But I guess we'll go on with "whelp, we'll never truly know" and scream war eagle when he catches a ball.
This post was edited on 8/8/25 at 11:36 am
Posted on 8/8/25 at 11:43 am to StringedInstruments
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Yeah, but let's be real. If there was a super secret third party, then she would have pressed charges against that person, right?
Maybe. Then again, this wouldn't be the first time that an athlete was targeted because of money. Also wouldn't be the first time an athlete did something terrible like this. The alleged victim making a claim and then the police following procedures based on that claim, is not evidence that the claim itself is actually true or not. We also don't know what the bruises are truly from or what escalated the situation to that level if they were form some type of choking.
However, if someone isn't pressing charges (if that truly is the case), asking for the court records to be sealed in cases like this is fairly common I would think, if it is an available option. Maybe i'm wrong there.
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I just don't know how we can root for a team that supports players who were arrested for domestic violence, with a victim displaying bruises on her neck, and need youthful offender status to keep the details hidden away after the charges were mysteriously dropped.
I trust our Title IX office more than I do hypothetical boogeyman scenarios
. Maybe that trust will be proven to be misplaced, but they have a good track record here. ETA: Just to reiterate, if he did it then I want him gone. Just trying to be as fair to the situation as possible. There is just enough of the "smell test" going other way that there is that we are overlooking something.
This post was edited on 8/8/25 at 11:50 am
Posted on 8/8/25 at 11:55 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Also, another point of consideration, his legal team may also be doing it so that they can avoid a jury trial. Due to the nature of the allegations, probably not an unreasonable assumption to think that he may not be able to truly get a fair jury trial. Can look at those in here that have already deemed him guilty. Might be another factor at play.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 11:59 am to StringedInstruments
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Why would we need the case sealed up?
This is very normal for this situation. Has nothing to do with him guilty or not guilty.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 1:48 pm to HailToTheChiz
All I know is if I was accused of being a woman beater and the evidence would match the story I've told everyone, I would want as many people to know it as possible instead of keeping it sealed. But that could just be me.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 1:57 pm to StringedInstruments
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Why would we need the case sealed up?
I got a DUI (i know, I was an idiot) two weeks before my 21st bday. I went to court with the intent of pleading guilty but the judge told me to just chill out and talk to my court appointed defense. I didn't even know there was such a thing as the youthful offender defense.
So, in my case. The state actually helped me get that sealed.
This is not an argument for, or against, Malcom and his actions. Just giving an example of one case where the YO status was in play.
This post was edited on 8/8/25 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 8/8/25 at 1:58 pm to jt33
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All I know is if I was accused of being a woman beater and the evidence would match the story I've told everyone, I would want as many people to know it as possible instead of keeping it sealed.
No you wouldnt.Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:16 pm to IAmNERD
lol no one would want a misdemeanor or felony assault following them around forever.
There is definitely smoke around this situation but I’m not sure there is fire.
As I have been from the beginning I am going to let the legal side run its course. I wasn’t there so I have no clue what really happened. I do know there are many guys that hit or abuse women, I do know there are many girls that hit or abuse men. Then there are just absolutely crazy people on both sides that controlling, manipulative, and emotionally abusive.
There is definitely smoke around this situation but I’m not sure there is fire.
As I have been from the beginning I am going to let the legal side run its course. I wasn’t there so I have no clue what really happened. I do know there are many guys that hit or abuse women, I do know there are many girls that hit or abuse men. Then there are just absolutely crazy people on both sides that controlling, manipulative, and emotionally abusive.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:39 pm to IAmNERD
quote:Ok genius, tell me why I wouldn't since you apparently know me better than me. Give me 1 good reason why you wouldn't want the entire world to know you are innocent if you've been accused of being a woman beater.
No you wouldnt.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:40 pm to jt33
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All I know is if I was accused of being a woman beater and the evidence would match the story I've told everyone, I would want as many people to know it as possible instead of keeping it sealed. But that could just be me
But evidence isn't all typically shared online. The online pleadings are simply allegations
Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:44 pm to jt33
Because a trial puts your guilt or innocence, regardless of what actually happened, into the hands of a jury of people that may be biased, or just really stupid.
If you can guarantee something won't go on your record as a 19 or 20 year old, you do whatever it takes to not put your future in the hands of other people.
If you can guarantee something won't go on your record as a 19 or 20 year old, you do whatever it takes to not put your future in the hands of other people.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:58 pm to HailToTheChiz
quote:The coaches and school would be able to find out what takes place during the trial though.
But evidence isn't all typically shared online. The online pleadings are simply allegations
Posted on 8/8/25 at 3:00 pm to aubiecat
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The fact that the university has said he wasn't responsible for domestic violence allows the athletic machine to throw its full weight behind him.
Just imagine if it were you or me?
We would be done for.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 3:03 pm to IAmNERD
quote:It looks like the trial is happening. This does get rid of the trial by jury, but he could have waived that right without YO status. If there's no evidence that he did it, then what would a judge find him guilty of? There shouldn't be anything that needs to be sealed.
Because a trial puts your guilt or innocence, regardless of what actually happened, into the hands of a jury of people that may be biased, or just really stupid.
If you can guarantee something won't go on your record as a 19 or 20 year old, you do whatever it takes to not put your future in the hands of other people.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 3:23 pm to jt33
It’s because no matter what happens, even if he’s found innocent, people will still think what they want to and come to their own conclusions about what happened. There is always a stain on you. Surely you understand this?
Tell the truth, if court finds him innocent, are you still going to have it set in your mind that he abused that girl?
Tell the truth, if court finds him innocent, are you still going to have it set in your mind that he abused that girl?
Posted on 8/8/25 at 3:30 pm to wareaglepete
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It’s because no matter what happens, even if he’s found innocent, people will still think what they want to and come to their own conclusions about what happened. There is always a stain on you. Surely you understand this?
Beyond that, youthful offender means the adjudication will not be a criminal conviction. The records also get sealed so that they cannot be seen to the public or employers. There are plenty of reasons to request it if available, even if completely innocent.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 3:31 pm to wareaglepete
If they have the trial and it came out that he never touched her or they she lied then yes I would accept that decision from a judge who has seen all of the evidence.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 3:34 pm to jt33
Judge’s decision not good enough? Remember this stuff will be sealed.
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