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re: Landry Football Podcast—A Coaching Scouting Report on “Coach Prime”

Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:09 pm to
Posted by greygoose
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Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:09 pm to
One more thing, there are several P5 schools currently with job openings. Is Sanders on any of their lists? At the end of the season, there will be a lot more. Probably some G5 schools too. Odd that Auburn is the ONLY school being mentioned in regards to Sanders.
Posted by Lee County Tiger
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Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:12 pm to
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Is Sanders on any of their lists? At the end of the season, there will be a lot more. Probably some G5 schools too


He'll be on a lot of lists.


There's a very strong chance that he'll be this cycles Tony Elliot, aka "my black friend" candidate who interviews.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:24 pm to
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Your insistence that he will be good at this level


never said he would be good at this level. I think he recruit other worldly. So get your commentary straight. I laid out in another thread what I personally thought of his staff. You laughed at it as well. An HBCU with long time ex NFL coaches, some assistants from G5, and a couple inexperienced coaches. For Jackson State it's an incredible staff. With a couple coaching swaps it would be a good SEC staff.

Emotional? Hardly. I think AU can win with Prime, Lane, or Freeze. Prime is the wildcard. Highest ceiling and lowest floor, Lane is probably the best offensive coach between he and Freeze but unless he's beating our rivals then we don't care if we beat Arkansas 35-10 and go for it on 8 tries on 4th down in a game, Freeze will get us to a normal Auburn standard of consistent bowls, a run to a championship every 5-6 years. Some 8-4, 9-3 type seasons along the way
Posted by Lee County Tiger
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Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:28 pm to
I like this version of Corch.



You're making a ton of salient points lately.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:32 pm to
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counter you, and place the blame on Parkey NOT kicking the kickoff out of the endzone after our last score. Something he did every game, all year long. The subsequent long return was the first domino to fall and set up everything else.


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Special teams, after being a strength all year, let us down in the NC game


The biggest issue on that long return was our guy pulling up lame with a hammy and it was the lane they broke through for the TD.

I mean how many of us were yelling at Trey to fall down right before the EZ, not rational but I remember it being discussed.

I blame Gus for not keeping his foot on the gas pedal like he did early. We should have embarrassed FSU. At least I vaguely remember playing them for a NC.

Gus did that several times that year. It sucked. I did love beating Arky that year with like only 3-4 running plays in the second half.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 11:47 pm
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:38 pm to
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I like this version of Corch


Same Corch. Just the board has swung my way. I'm still a cocky a-hole. Not even saying I'm right about anything in particular I just saw and spoke what I saw earlier then most on the board. That's why I never got pissed just asked people to debate what they were trying to opine. Same as always.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 11/3/22 at 11:40 pm to
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The biggest issue on that long return was our going pulling up lame with a hanky and it was the lane they broke through for the TD.


True. Just lucky FSU had the return set to that side instead of middle return or other side of the field return. Pulled hamstring cost of the game unfortunately. Still what an incredible run and season. Some moments will live on forever in Auburn memory and Lore
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21100 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 12:02 am to
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Here's the facts and evidence, no emotion, no subjective shite like "I think he will ......., bullshite.

1. Deion Sanders was the OC of a high school team, just two years ago.

2. He has never coached at an FBS school.

3. He has signed two players, in his two years at JSU, that rate at 4* or higher.

4. The conference that JSU is in, is horrible. Being the conference champ is the equivalent of being the tallest midget.

5. The FCS Coaches Poll has a two loss team ranked higher than JSU, and several one loss teams.

6. Sanders is 55 years old. He started coaching in 2012 at a high school he founded. It was closed under scandal. If you can't do the math, the totality of his coaching experience is 10 years. The guys he will be competing against are at the TOP of their profession. This is like a golden gloves boxer getting into the ring with Ali or Tyson in their prime.

We just fired a Mountain West coach with a pretty good resume, who turned out to be a complete failure at this level, and you want Auburn to take another risk and double-down on a coach from a SWAC school, who has only been doing this shite for two years! This is the theater of the absurd. There is nothing in his coaching record that remotely suggests that he is ready for a jump of this magnitude. Nothing.



1. I don't give a shite how long he's coached. Carnell just started coaching as well. Some people are afforded a quicker move up the ladder because of other intangibles outside of experience.
2. Don't care if he's ever coached at an FBS school or not either. There have been plenty of coaches that have spent their entire careers as a P5 coach and then got to be a head coach and failed miserably.
3. Yes a whole 2 players rated 4 star or above. How many before Prime? How many 3 stars before Prime?
4. No one ever said the SWAC was an elite conference. It's lower the some juco teams.
5. We aren't going to be asking Prime to out x and o other coaches. That's why he will have money to bring in a staff that can. I bet Saban or Dabo can't out scheme most coaches in the country. If he coached 20 more years I don't know that Prime would be some terrific x and o's coach. A couple things we can gather from his short tenure. He can recruit, he can motivate, he is a no nonsense old school coach, and appears his teams are well prepared.

My question to you is do you want to continue to bring in top 15 classes. Lose to Bama and Georgia most years. LSU more then we win and toss ups every year with aTm? But have a "elite" x and o's coach standing on the sideline? If so we never should have fired Gus. Sure his last couple years was hampered by lack of OL talent. I'll give you that. But Gus could out coach any head coach in the league. That's why we dominated the also rans, and were basically the only team that could compete with Bama.


I'm not against any coach that's been mentioned. I just have Prime as my number 1. You don't. Big deal. Who care what either of us want. We don't make the decisions but these pissing matches every time Prime is mentioned is a little cra cra. Maybe we will hire whoever you want as coach and we win 15 straight national championships. nothing would make me happier. I just want to win.
Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 12:18 am to
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What cost us the natty was we GAVE UP 50 YARDS ON A frickING SLANT ROUTE! frickKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!



Also Chad Slade not blocking on the last play (throwback to Tre).


and #3 pulling a hammy on KO return for td
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 11/4/22 at 5:49 am to
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This cannot be stated enough and is exactly what kept us not only from winning the Natty against FSU but also running with that momentum and sustaining



DB diving at the receivers feet and missing was the last straw

We were doomed after that


Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
8943 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 7:49 am to
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I remember watching the fake punt, and I called it being a fake welllllll before it was snapped.


I, too, was yelling "FAKE!" from my section of the Rose Bowl. I got a few "you were right" looks after.
Posted by aubiecat
Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
5894 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 8:13 am to
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One more thing, there are several P5 schools currently with job openings. Is Sanders on any of their lists? At the end of the season, there will be a lot more. Probably some G5 schools too. Odd that Auburn is the ONLY school being mentioned in regards to Sanders.

You know why. Auburn is the best job opening in the country right now. People are salivating to see what Deion could do at a school that can recruit and can win national titles.
Maybe you can share all the other schools and their lists.
Posted by TemperdTiger
Montgomery, AL
Member since Oct 2013
2389 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 8:25 am to
I say Prime + really good OC/DC could be the best bet. We need him for the management of players and the reinvigoration of the Auburn image.
Posted by Etowah
Alabama
Member since Oct 2016
386 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 8:25 am to
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On a level playing field Saban never outcoached anybody. Ask the AFC East
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This may be one of the truest statement I've ever heard on here.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44990 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 8:32 am to
Real talk. Is Caddy a better option than Prime? Rich ex-NFL athlete with actual SEC coaching experience.
Posted by mckibaj
Member since Nov 2010
8158 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 8:41 am to
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We need him for the management of players


With the NIL it has come and will be increasing harder to do that. Deion is someone who came from nothing and made millions. I think his biggest upside is managing the players that now, all of the sudden have lots money. This is where someone like Jimbo seems to be failing.
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
8943 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 9:46 am to
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I say Prime + really good OC/DC could be the best bet.


How would he get a really good OC/DC? Most really good OC/DCs are trying to learn from a HC in order to be an HC themselves. Why would they want to learn from someone that they probably know more than?
Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 10:18 am to
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I, too, was yelling "FAKE!" from my section of the Rose Bowl. I got a few "you were right" looks after.

I was screaming it in the stands too. It was the most obvious fake punt in history....and Gus didnt see it coming
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9961 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 10:34 am to
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He's driven but not scared of failure. To many coaches coach scared. I see that similarity in Prime and Kiffin


Amen. That's another reason why they are my top 2 as well.

When you have a talent advantage, every team you play against is going to have a carefully orchestrated, methodical game plan against you. You can't coach scared.
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9961 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 10:39 am to
Yep. The reason's Saban is the best college coach of the modern era are 1. Recruiting 2. Relentless Player Development. I know for sure Prime would thrive with 1 and his personality (obsessive work ethic, old school coaching) seems to lend itself towards 2 as well.

Saban has never been a great in-game coach to me at all but it hasn't really mattered (although I will say he pretty consistently makes good halftime adjustments with his defenses and the call to bench Jalen when he did was incredibly impressive)
This post was edited on 11/4/22 at 10:39 am
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