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re: Just a hunch but here goes…
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:29 pm to The_SwAUggford
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:29 pm to The_SwAUggford
Defense could not get off the field for long stretches in the first half, offense couldn't make first downs. That is a large part of why we lost. We probably had the running backs to try to take the QB out of the equation, but the fumbled too and we don't appear to have an offense that could execute that kind of running game anyway.
This is a very poorly coached team.
Last year Freeze was all about rebuilding relationships with high school programs and sort of implied that he was hands off on the management of the team and staff. We know there was a major problem between two defensive staff members that wasn;t addressed until the end of the year.
This is starting to look negligent.
An old school coach would figure out what his players can do, figure out which plays they could run, concentrate on running those flawlessly and circle the wagons to focus on making progress as a team.
What is Freeze doing?
This is a very poorly coached team.
Last year Freeze was all about rebuilding relationships with high school programs and sort of implied that he was hands off on the management of the team and staff. We know there was a major problem between two defensive staff members that wasn;t addressed until the end of the year.
This is starting to look negligent.
An old school coach would figure out what his players can do, figure out which plays they could run, concentrate on running those flawlessly and circle the wagons to focus on making progress as a team.
What is Freeze doing?
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:41 pm to Luke
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VU has a competent QB, we do not yet
We beat both Cal and Arky on the road last year with the same QB we have this year. We fired our OC because he “wasn’t on the same page”. This year our talent is better all across the board. The only difference outside that is the guy calling the plays is the guy who wrote the page everybody is supposed to be on.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:56 pm to Luke
I wish Hugh knew that when you watch your QB throw 5 picks you should probably not let him throw a lot the next game.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 5:44 pm to FlyDownTheField
It’s really simple. We don’t have a qb that can execute. That’s it.
We will have to go to 100% run if we want to try and win
We will have to go to 100% run if we want to try and win
Posted on 9/23/24 at 5:46 pm to TailbackU
It doesn’t matter if it’s the same qb. He can’t process or throw to the right team this year. Now that we know that, we will have to go 80% running the ball to try and win games.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 6:02 pm to AU_251
If we averaged 1 INT per game, we are 4-0. This team is far from perfect, but just average QB play and we look like we are on schedule with the rebuild. Our roster still needs a lot of work, but man the QB play has made everything else look so much worse.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 6:05 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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just average QB play
Yep all we need is a “game manager” with Jarquez being fed the rock 25-30 carries a game.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:01 pm to CharlesUFarley
Amen
Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:05 pm to FlyDownTheField83
Hugh’s offense has always been turnover machines. That was back when you could really practice as well. If WRs and QB aren’t completely in sync it’s a shite show. But when it is it can put tons of points up
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:03 am to jangalang
quote:and yet its not our defense that is struggling
Freeze himself already pointed out we are struggling to replace the secondary and Marcus Harris.
we were giving up 5.2 yards per play through the first 5 games last year, thus far through 4 we are allowing 4.6
and on offense we averaged 5.2 ypp in Aug/Sept 2023, we are gaining an absolutely astounding 8.1 ypp this season
and yet we’re 2-2 with at least 4 games remaining against teams that are better than Cal and Arky, and 2 more that are probably as good as them
question for the board: in your honest opinion, what is AU’s talent level in 2024 compared to 2012?
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:12 am to FearlessFreep
quote:Inferior by far if we are discussing what that 2012 talent ended up becoming.
question for the board: in your honest opinion, what is AU’s talent level in 2024 compared to 2012?
RB:
Tre Mason
Ontario McCallebb
WR
Emory Blake
Quan Bray
Travante Stallworth
Trovon Reed
TE
Lutz
DL:
Lemonier
Dee Ford
Gabe Wright
Jeff Whitaker
Linebacker Darren Bates
CB
Chris Davis
Robensen Therize
T'sharaven Bell
Jermaine Whitehead
2012 had several key players but did their talent arrive by 2012? Maybe not. The talent was young but promising. If 2024 had a lengthy list of arrived potential like above we would not be losing to shitty teams.
This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 8:14 am
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:26 am to jangalang
quote:and yet that 2012 squad with all that young talent went 3-9 and lost to shitty teams too
2012 had several key players but did their talent arrive by 2012? Maybe not. The talent was young but promising. If 2024 had a lengthy list of arrived potential like above we would not be losing to shitty teams.
in contrast, that same season Freezus took over a team from Ole Nutt that had lost 17 of its previous 22 games against FBS opponents (with a loss to FBS Jax St) and was on a 14-game losing streak to P5 teams
in his 2nd year he had wins over 3 teams ranked in the final AP poll
you think there’s any realistic chance of that happening here
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:36 am to FearlessFreep
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and yet that 2012 squad with all that young talent went 3-9 and lost to shitty teams too
Budding young talent actively learning on the job is not dependable. On top of that, similar to this team, there was no straw that stirred our drink and got things rolling.
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in his 2nd year he had wins over 3 teams ranked in the final AP poll
I have no comment. I dont understand the why and how of that year for Ole Miss but 2nd year comparisons are pretty arbitrary.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:10 am to jangalang
quote:my point was, it appears to me that 2012 Freezus was capable of taking a moribund program with a recent history of abject failure and a decided talent deficit and making them competitive in less than two seasons
I dont understand the why and how of that year for Ole Miss but 2nd year comparisons are pretty arbitrary.
2024 Freezus took over a program in considerably better shape and thus far seems not up to the task of improving it based on actual on-field performance
i hate to say i saw this coming, but i did
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:23 am to FearlessFreep
If he can succeed with a lack of resources then I dont know why he cannot succeed here.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:43 am to FearlessFreep
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2024 Freezus took over a program in considerably better shape
Wut?
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:46 am to aubiecat
quote:are you confused by my contention that AU circa 2023 was a much stronger program than Ole Miss 2012?
Wut?
This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 9:47 am
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:51 am to jangalang
quote:he succeeded in turning Ole Miss around 12 years ago
If he can succeed with a lack of resources then I dont know why he cannot succeed here.
CFB has changed dramatically since then, and thus far i fail to see where Freezus has adapted to the new realities
moot point, since we’re stuck with him for the next 2-3 years, but this was a high probability outcome when he was hired
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:02 am to Luke
At some point, we have to kick this loser mentality. Auburn is a losing team that makes losing plays. Late hit out of bounds that turns into a TD. A prayer on 3rd and long that turns into a TD. Having a TD turn into a fumble in the endzone. Bobbled passes that turn into INTs. All that on top of the QB play. This team is a loser that has to stop making loser plays.
This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 10:04 am
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:32 am to FearlessFreep
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CFB has changed dramatically since then, and thus far i fail to see where Freezus has adapted to the new realities
Freeze's offense is closer to modern than archaic. Saban wanted help from Kiffin just to implement the concepts that Freeze used to defeat Saban.
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