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Jonathan Wallace and the potential parallel to Sean White
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:24 pm
I keep thinking about this, having watched the development and philosophy of QB's over the past 4 years, especially as it relates to Sean White.
Wallace showed pretty good ability and toughness his freshman year. He was kindof the lone bright spot during that abomination.
In an effort to not make this too long...
Do you see Gus bringing in a running qb because he refuses to adapt the system to the strength of the players he has? If so, will Sean White end up following the same path Jonathan Wallace did? Not necessarily moving to WR, more likely transferring out, but having tons of promise and ability, but never really getting a serious opportunity to prove how good he can be?
Wallace showed pretty good ability and toughness his freshman year. He was kindof the lone bright spot during that abomination.
In an effort to not make this too long...
Do you see Gus bringing in a running qb because he refuses to adapt the system to the strength of the players he has? If so, will Sean White end up following the same path Jonathan Wallace did? Not necessarily moving to WR, more likely transferring out, but having tons of promise and ability, but never really getting a serious opportunity to prove how good he can be?
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:34 pm to AUjim
Sean has to get a little bigger to stay healthy and he's not mentally quite there yet.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:36 pm to AUjim
SW needs to add some mass to his 6'3" frame
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:37 pm to AUjim
I don't see any parallel between the two at all.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:42 pm to Rig
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I don't see any parallel between the two at all.
Wallace is basically Sean White with less arm talent and slightly less awareness.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:49 pm to GenesChin
I'm not talking physical attributes. More like career arc.
If Gus goes out and gets a JUCO running QB to take over, their careers could end up looking very similar from a perspective of tons of promise and potential in their first year, but no coaching investment in development, resulting in mere afterthought by the end.
If Gus goes out and gets a JUCO running QB to take over, their careers could end up looking very similar from a perspective of tons of promise and potential in their first year, but no coaching investment in development, resulting in mere afterthought by the end.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 1:57 pm to AUjim
I agree, but White will transfer out, as he should.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:00 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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6'3" frame
Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:03 pm to DuncanIdaho
I don't see tons of promise in SW. I think he has played well before he was ready to play but has some considerable liabilities.
Tre Mason was a much brighter bright spot in 2012 than JW.
Tre Mason was a much brighter bright spot in 2012 than JW.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:08 pm to AUjim
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Wallace showed pretty good ability
Lol no.
I like the guy and all that but he never had the talent to be playing for a SEC school. He was better than Moseley but I don't think he was even as good as Trotter.
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:40 pm to Weagle25
Team Wallace
Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:51 pm to Rig
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I don't see any parallel between the two at all.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:04 pm to LanierSpots
I don't see the parallel either.
That said, I don't think White is the answer at qb for us. I don't think he is tall enough to have the vision needed over the line to make the downfield throws that don't get batted down. Also, his arm isn't very strong and while he has some mobility, he rarely escapes sacks, can't break a tackle, often has to be rolled out, and isn't a running threat unless there is no one in the vicinity of him.
JJ is wildly inconsistent and crumbles when he is "the man".
IMO, we are fricked at qb with what we have right now.
That said, I don't think White is the answer at qb for us. I don't think he is tall enough to have the vision needed over the line to make the downfield throws that don't get batted down. Also, his arm isn't very strong and while he has some mobility, he rarely escapes sacks, can't break a tackle, often has to be rolled out, and isn't a running threat unless there is no one in the vicinity of him.
JJ is wildly inconsistent and crumbles when he is "the man".
IMO, we are fricked at qb with what we have right now.
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:20 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Also, his arm isn't very strong and while he has some mobility, he rarely escapes sacks, can't break a tackle, often has to be rolled out, and isn't a running threat unless there is no one in the vicinity of him.
I kind of disagree here. I thought he looked really good in the Arkansas game, and it is kind of hard to judge him since he got banged up in that game. Give him another year of conditioning and tailoring the playbook and I think he could be a good one.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:29 pm to higgs_boson
I think he can develop into a decent qb. I'm not saying he sucks.
But I don't think he will be a really good qb and I think we should be able to do better than either him or JJ at the position.
But I don't think he will be a really good qb and I think we should be able to do better than either him or JJ at the position.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:32 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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I think he can develop into a decent qb. I'm not saying he sucks.
But I don't think he will be a really good qb and I think we should be able to do better than either him or JJ at the position.
This is accurate.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:47 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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I don't think he is tall enough to have the vision needed over the line to make the downfield throws that don't get batted down
Sean White has demonstrated solid vision as a RS FR in his downfield reads and I don't remember him having batted balls at an unusually high rate.
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Also, his arm isn't very strong
I agree and his ability to vertically stretch the field changes what we can do. It is on Gus to adjust to this (argument whether he can). Heck, even Chad Pennington was legit in the NFL and he barely could throw the ball 30 yards.
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he rarely escapes sacks, can't break a tackle, often has to be rolled out,
Very few RS Fr have the pocket presence to sense pressure and break tackles from 250+ LB defensive players. Our OL has been solid but HBacks have been poor in pass protection picking up blitz + long developing plays = dead QB
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I don't think White is the answer at qb for us.
White could be the answer for us if someone on our O staff can properly design an offense for his skills + keep him healthy. Don't know if we have that someone currently
Posted on 11/16/15 at 5:02 pm to GenesChin
White will be a good QB. He has shown good awareness in the pocket, and steps up nicely. He doesn't have a cannon for an arm, but it's serviceable. More importantly he throws an accurate ball. We def HAVE to have some good WR's to go with him or it just won't work however. If Muschamp keeps improving the defense we could be solid the next couple years with White at the helm.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 5:10 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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I think he can develop into a decent qb. I'm not saying he sucks.
But I don't think he will be a really good qb and I think we should be able to do better than either him or JJ at the position.
This is almost my exact statement about two months ago.
I like him. He is very good at what he does. But he is not our answer and we will not be dominate with his style of play
Posted on 11/16/15 at 5:54 pm to LanierSpots
I disagree but I've made my thoughts on White pretty clear
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