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re: i think coach harsin will be fine at auburn.....
Posted on 5/29/21 at 9:35 am to ChexMix
Posted on 5/29/21 at 9:35 am to ChexMix
Chex ITT:
I wouldn’t think it unreasonable to give Harsin at least four seasons to prove whether or not he can rise to the “acceptable” level of performance.
quote:Also Chex, earlier ITT:
We seriously just fired a coach who won 8 game a year. In Gus's worst years he won 6 and 7 games, and now we are accepting of Harsin coming in and doing as good as Gus in his worst years???
quote:By your own definition, 75% of AU’s seasons under Gustav were “not acceptable”. Which is probably why we fired him.
8 wins still is accompanied by 5 losses. FIVE. Not acceptable
I wouldn’t think it unreasonable to give Harsin at least four seasons to prove whether or not he can rise to the “acceptable” level of performance.
quote:We did. Harsin’s resume is better than any HC we’ve hired since Heisman. Let’s give him more than one year to prove he’s up to the challenge.
Lets raise the bar just this once on coaching hires
This post was edited on 5/29/21 at 9:38 am
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Posted on 5/29/21 at 9:48 am to ChexMix
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We seriously just fired a coach who won 8 game a year. In Gus's worst years he won 6 and 7 games, and now we are accepting of Harsin coming in and doing as good as Gus in his worst years???
I think it’s a combination of things. Personnel issues (specifically on offense), big change in offense, and the apparent culture issues like guys not showing up on time or at all to workouts.
I’ve actually been encouraged that most Auburn fans haven’t had crazy expectations. It looks pretty clear to me that Harsin wants to win this year and is going to do his best to do that, but it looks like a lot of his focus is on 3-5 years from now.
I have little hope we will beat bama and UGA this year given the physical style of offense we will be running and the lack of talent we have on the OL to pull it off. I also refuse to get my hopes up for a game in BR until I see us actually win. That means to get to 8 regular season wins we need to beat either A&M (who is a top 10 preseason team) or PSU (who is a top 25 preseason team), and Bo hasn’t showed that he can go into another stadium and compete against a good team.
I’m personally expecting 7 wins, but that’s more than I would have expected had Gus stayed.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 11:23 am to aubierawks
quote:… bust a gut trying to better Saran in game one.
i think coach harsin will …
(And if not even up come round two)
This post was edited on 5/29/21 at 11:24 am
Posted on 5/29/21 at 12:06 pm to ChexMix
am i talking to much or getting too long winded? i guess it is a geezer thing.i know it is slow and i am excited to be hear and was trying to gt people fired up.apologies
Posted on 5/29/21 at 12:07 pm to ChexMix
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We seriously just fired a coach who won 8 game a year. In Gus's worst years he won 6 and 7 games, and now we are accepting of Harsin coming in and doing as good as Gus in his worst years???
Lets raise the bar just this once on coaching hires.
You really don't want to look at the big picture here, do you?
We fired a guy who couldn't evolve and get his offense to play top level SEC ball like out defense could, therefore about 5 losses a year.
So when Dye was hired, as bad as Barfield was. When CTT was hired as bad as Bowden left us in. THey ended up being better coaches for us with chances at NCs, but their first years were both 5-6 and then we took off with good and better seasons than Gus.
Why does this year HAVE to be better, just bc of the coach we hired? We didn't get better across the roster all of a sudden to beat teams like ALabama, GA, etc who are just reloading...
The bar IS raised...we may just not get over it in year 1 or 2...
Posted on 5/29/21 at 12:25 pm to AuSteeler
He’s trolling or a tard
Posted on 5/29/21 at 1:29 pm to FearlessFreep
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By your own definition, 75% of AU’s seasons in the history of the program were “not acceptable”.
FI4U
Posted on 5/29/21 at 1:31 pm to FearlessFreep
quote:Best resume since Heisman yet lowered expectations.
We did. Harsin’s resume is better than any HC we’ve hired since Heisman. Let’s give him more than one year to prove he’s up to the challenge.
Im not saying fire him if he doesnt produce year one, however, 8 wins should be bar for his first year.
And so yall can wrap your head around it, name the 6 teams you are OK with losing to next year. Bama, LSU, UGA, aTm, Ole Miss, Penn St? Yall good with that shite? Just normal growing pains right guys?
Demand excellence and do NOT settle for mediocrity.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 1:39 pm to AuSteeler
quote:What a defeatist attitude. As if Auburn cant beat bama and uga
We didn't get better across the roster all of a sudden to beat teams like ALabama, GA, etc who are just reloading...
quote:I'm fricking impatient and I'm sick and tired of hearing excuses on why losing 5 games a year is acceptable.
Why does this year HAVE to be better
Posted on 5/29/21 at 2:01 pm to ChexMix
quote:Saban won 7 games his first season at Bama
Im not saying fire him if he doesnt produce year one, however, 8 wins should be bar for his first year.
Tressel won 7 his first year at tOSU
Pete Carroll won 6 his first year at USC
What action should we take if Harsin doesn’t win 8 this fall?
Posted on 5/29/21 at 2:09 pm to ChexMix
Letting a man build his process to be a more consistent winner, which I’m sure you have complained about as I have, will require a bit of patience.
Being reasonable is not lowering the bar. Giving a man a chance to build a long term successful program winning 10+ every year vs a year of success every 4-5 years is what I am suggesting. You of course can continue to be happy with a 10+ plus win season once or twice a decade.
Being reasonable is not lowering the bar. Giving a man a chance to build a long term successful program winning 10+ every year vs a year of success every 4-5 years is what I am suggesting. You of course can continue to be happy with a 10+ plus win season once or twice a decade.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 2:24 pm to ChexMix
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I'm fricking impatient and I'm sick and tired of hearing excuses on why losing 5 games a year is acceptable.
I don’t think any of us think it’s acceptable, hence why everyone wanted Gus gone. But this whole microwave, “I want it now” way of thinking is lazy and unrealistic.
The fact of the matter is we aren’t that talented in some very important positions and that’s not going to change overnight. Like Lanier pointed out, losing that many games is who this program is. That’s not going to change overnight. It’s just not. Even the greatest coach of all time and one of the greatest programs of all time had to go through a rough year.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 2:26 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:This.
Letting a man build his process to be a more consistent winner, which I’m sure you have complained about as I have, will require a bit of patience.
Being reasonable is not lowering the bar. Giving a man a chance to build a long term successful program winning 10+ every year vs a year of success every 4-5 years is what I am suggesting. You of course can continue to be happy with a 10+ plus win season once or twice a decade.
We’ve all been frustrated with the ridiculous roller coaster that is AU football. This hire represents a legitimate opportunity for an HC to come in and build the program from scratch his way.
Laying down an arbitrary standard below which is “not acceptable” in year one of a ground-up rebuild isn’t realistic.
Of course the team may come together really quickly and surprise us, like 2013. But I’m not going to judge Harsin a failure if it doesn’t happen.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 2:44 pm to ChexMix
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We didn't get better across the roster all of a sudden to beat teams like ALabama, GA, etc who are just reloading...
What a defeatist attitude. As if Auburn cant beat bama and uga
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Why does this year HAVE to be better
I'm fricking impatient and I'm sick and tired of hearing excuses on why losing 5 games a year is acceptable.
I didn't say we couldn't beat Alabama or GA this year. We always play Alabama at home well. GA...uhhh..we seem to roll over and play dead for some reason, even in years we are better than they are.
But I was just giving you some logical reasoning, why most of us on this thread, are understanding of this coaching staff, if we don't win 8 this year.
Do we want to win 8? Hell no, we want to win 10+ every year, and compete for the SEC champ, and NC championship, and get in the fricking playoff series for the first dang time. :)
But we will observe this team if it doesn't get to 8 or farther, with open eyes, but expect to see a better looking offensive scheme, and a team that competes and has a chance to win...
Posted on 5/29/21 at 3:41 pm to ChexMix
You can just say I have no idea how college football works but I want to win a natty next year anyway
Posted on 5/29/21 at 3:48 pm to AuSteeler
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Do we want to win 8? Hell no
Yall say this like Coach Harsin would be happy going 8-5, he is not Gus. While someone pointed out he ASU went backwards from Gus to Harsin. Gus had a senior heavy team lead by a great sun belt QB and Harsin still won the conference.
Nothing CBH has said indicates he doesnt want to win and win now. He just has his "process" of building a program. I would rather have sustained success instead of a flash in the pan season. Dude left his alma mater because he wants to win CHAMPIONSHIPS not just 8 games a year.
If we only win 7 or 8 games this year, yes I will be disappointed but I dont think any will be more disappointed than CBH.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:03 pm to aubierawks
quote:you're posting walls of text is all.
am i talking to much or getting too long winded? i guess it is a geezer thing.i know it is slow and i am excited to be hear and was trying to gt people fired up.apologies
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:12 pm to blzr
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I want to win a natty next year anyway
I’m all in, as I am every year.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:47 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
All I’m saying, is Harsin had the guns to pull off a shooter sleeve on the sidelines. That would be a power move.
This post was edited on 5/29/21 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 5/30/21 at 10:38 am to GoCrazyAuburn
2023 will be the year I will decide if Harsin is a good hire or not.
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